The unavoidable poll: PvP vs PvE!

[Arubeto]

When reading "open vs group vs solo" threads, one often encounters claims about "majorities of players" favoring one playstyle - PvP or PvE - over the other, mostly unfunded. While I know a poll at the forum can't represent the opinion landscape of the whole player base, it still comes much closer to being a well-grounded result than just subjective impressions of players "feeling" that one gameplay style is more popular than the other.

And while there are many, many threads about the play modes of Elite - solo, group, open - I can't remember a pure "PvP vs PvE" poll, frankly.
To make this poll as neutral as I can, I make the two options as pure as possible: just PvP and PvE. There might be other options people want ("both", "consensual PvP" etc.), but for the sake of determining the priorities just among these two playstyles, I restricted the poll to just these two options.

I am curious to see the results!

Lets start, "It's clobbering time!"

EDIT:

To clarify, I don't want either of the playstyles (PvP, PvE) be removed from the game, I think they both have there place in ED and enjoy them both.

So, perhaps rephrasing the initial question in the following way might clear up some misunderstandings:

I do not intend to say

"If you could only have one, which would you choose?",

but rather

"You can have both, sure, but which is more important to you?"

 

[Kazacy]

In a multiplayer game there is only one choice: PVP.

 

[Jack Schitt]

Meaningless. Forum polls are by their nature limited to a subset of players, self-selecting, and gameable. Only FD knows what proportion of time players spend in each mode, and so far they're keeping that information to themselves. You know where this thread will go. In before the descent and lock.

 

[Karl Marx]

In a multiplayer game there is only one choice: PVP.

Not when some of those people run away to solo. That dang mode is the plague of this game imho. Same goes for private servers. That's a terrible idea and does nothing other than splinter the community.

 

[Yaffle]

Let's try not let this descend into another solo v open fight, eh?

Feel free to vote, but not belittle others' gaming choices.

 

[Kazacy]

Not when some of those people run away to solo. That dang mode is the plague of this game imho. Same goes for private servers. That's a terrible idea and does nothing other than splinter the community.

In this way everyone can choose the mode most suitable to them. I am not interested to play with people who cannot stand their decisions in game (see combat loggers), so if they go to solo good riddance and stay in solo/private.

 

[Kicks]

This poll was completely avoidable.

 

[askavir]

I dream of the day when "pve" and "pvp" seamlessly blends together and we no longer talk about pve, pvp, builds, dps, nerfs, buffs, balance, etc. ED game world is big enough for everyone, and all should be able to play / do their favorite things.

That being said...

Currently that day is far, far away, and probably heading further away. Not sure if its even possible to be honest. Currently (almost?) all the game content is PvE / PwP. On top of that, extreme outfitting results make it nearly impossible to effectively mix PvE and PvP. So i will have to go with PvE on this.

 

[GluttonyFang]

I think we can all agree that this forum has more PvE players than PvP players.

 

[Nerwan]

I think we can all agree that this forum has more PvE players than PvP players.

I wonder what results you'd get on reddit, my impression has always been that it's far more popular with PVPers

 

[Tinman]

I know the OP wanted the poll to be "pure", but my honest opinion is "both". That was what they originally described (and still do) and that is what I like. The choice to do a little bit of both while still staying in the same gameworld instead of jumping between alternate dimensions.

 

[Sandmann]

I think we can all agree that this forum has more PvE players than PvP players.

Pretty much every open v solo/group poll, pvp v pve poll, and similar polls over the last 2-3 years have shown that yah... usually at rates of 2:1 - 3:1 depending on the way the question's asked. It's the nature of the game, it's far more suited to PvE (as many PvPers have complained bitterly of and many PvE-ers have pointed out over many, many threads). There's very little doubt that PvE has a wider support group, both on this forum and likely in the game as well. The more common argument seems to be "the game SHOULD be this or that thing"... or "the game is broken coz it's not this or that thing"... or "I demand that the devs change this or that thing to suit what I perceive to be the more popular choice".

 

[Cyrgon]

In this way everyone can choose the mode most suitable to them. I am not interested to play with people who cannot stand their decisions in game (see combat loggers), so if they go to solo good riddance and stay in solo/private.

But they don't which is kind of the problem. Open often leads to almost-conflict or conflict with no ultimate resolution repeated ad-nauseam because they won't commit to their playstyle. I don't and no one should judge other players playstyles, but it would be nice if the game forced you to commit to and pay the consequences for your actions, instead of leaving options available that are not in the spirit of intended gameplay. If you want to PP, and choose to hazard Open (whether it should be allowed in Solo an entirely different discussion) I'd prefer the game holding you true to your choice, instead of allowing last-minute knee-jerk decisions to pull the plug when things don't go your way instead of committing.

 

[Sandmann]

I wonder what results you'd get on reddit, my impression has always been that it's far more popular with PVPers

Sure, but that raises the question of whether the forum or reddit is more representative of the player group as a whole. Do PvE-ers congregate only here and PvP-ers only on reddit? Or are the PvP-ers on reddit the same players as here on the forums, just without the PvE players there to argue with?

 

[GluttonyFang]

Pretty much every open v solo/group poll, pvp v pve poll, and similar polls over the last 2-3 years have shown that yah... usually at rates of 2:1 - 3:1 depending on the way the question's asked. It's the nature of the game, it's far more suited to PvE (as many PvPers have complained bitterly of and many PvE-ers have pointed out over many, many threads).

I think you ignored the very thing you quoted.

"This forum has more PvE players than PvP players."

There's very little doubt that PvE has a wider support group, both on this forum and likely in the game as well.

Speculation.

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Sure, but that raises the question of whether the forum or reddit is more representative of the player group as a whole.

At no point did he suggest that Reddit is more representative, merely that the poll result might be different, you're reading into things that aren't there.

 

[cyberus]

In a multiplayer game there is only one choice: PVP.

This is not Eve online.... Get over it and move on. Big chunk of the ED players don't care about PVP .

 

[Ant_Solo]

I think we can all agree that this forum has more PvE players than PvP players.

This is very true.

I voted PvP because it is such a fun, exciting and important pat of the game but for me the question is a false dichotomy.

I want to play and enjoy all parts of the game and that is what I would really want to vote for.

Everyone should play how they want, but I believe that the gameplay is better when everything is included.

 

[The_Quasar]

I know the OP wanted the poll to be "pure", but my honest opinion is "both". That was what they originally described (and still do) and that is what I like. The choice to do a little bit of both while still staying in the same gameworld instead of jumping between alternate dimensions.

This... depending on what mood I'm in...

Imho, the game is stronger for having both...

However, both can be experienced on open.

 

[Kazacy]

This is not Eve online.... Get over it and move on. Big chunk of the ED players don't care about PVP .

No it's not EVE online but i choose to play this game the same way i play EVE; in the end for me it's "EVE with cockpits". I don't want and cannot force you or another player to play the same way like me and the opposite is also true.

 

[Agent2090]

extreme outfitting results make it nearly impossible to effectively mix PvE and PvP.

This is definitely the case in pretty much every online game I've played. Devs usually have to choose which crowd to pander to, the PvE or PvP crowd. Balancing for PvP usually makes certain things completely useless in PvE, then trying to balance for PvE makes certain utterly broken in PvP. There is rarely any middle ground.