Because losing connection right before they're about to see a 30mil rebuy or after their powerplant is gone is more than just bad luck or coincidence IMO
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What happens when you report a logger?
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At least it happening consistantly is.
I wonder if that is why there is no punishment for logging. Cause it could be hard to prove. However the only times I have crashed was when I exited out of hyperspace.
Very trueThis fascination of reporting random players for logging only leads me to believe that folks really need to get out more
Whether false reports get filtered or not, its a pretty scummy thing to do. Especially over something so trivial. It just seems small and petty.
Besides that, a false reporter (or friend multi-reporter as it were) is worse than a logger. You IMMEDIATELY lose any moral high you might have had while complaining about a logger
Did they? When? Dont confuse 'spirit of the game' with 'rules of the game'.
This fascination of reporting random players for logging only leads me to believe that folks really need to get out more
Mole I'm guessing you havnt been logged on. I've been battered and then when I returned the favour I get logged on. ( long story cut short version).
If nothing happens then yes we will have to get over it and we can all log.
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For me it's when you go to close game you can not control the ship. So ship stays still for a few seconds before they don't take damage then they disappear. Yes I know not always clear but logs are ALWAYS when there about to blow up lol
We really gotta stop this ''What if'' nonsense.
If I was to get disconnected during combat (happaned once before with a buzz crash) I don't think I would mind at this point getting a warning or even a punishment. If someone says they often disconnect Frontier could look into their history and see if that's true if they often disconnect outside of combat and such.
But yea I would report them because chances are they didn't have a power outage or internet problems, they most likely logged. I used to send a message stating that combat logging is cheating in a polite manner and never once did they reply with ''Oh no I disconnected, sorry about that'' or anything like that. It was either a rude reply or them justifying logging. So I'll atleast make the somewhat educated assumption that most loggers aren't getting power outages.
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So, I should also stop reporting hackers because it's ''trivial''? Will I also be called ''small and petty'' for that?
I agree it's somewhat scummy thing to do I've said it before but I've had it with the way Frontier seem to be handeling it. I wouldn't be doing it if Frontier gave some of the potential cash one could get out of a logger to the pirate but that ain't happening either.
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I wonder what the response will be if people say a griefer logged. I already know what it is as it has happaned before and it is never ''Maybe he lost connection?''.
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Carve a notch for each logger you encounter & wear with pride. I mean if you're pirating you're not desperate for the cash anyway right? Unless you're going 100% career that is, in which case I feel for ya.
You should ABSOLUTELY report EVERY hacker you come across. But chances are you have never encountered a hacker on XB1.
A plug puller isnt a hacker. And No, i dont feel you should report someone for that. But that is your choice. Not mine.
No matter how silly (or other choice words) i think it is, it is technically your right because "rules blah blah blah............."
But getting outsiders involved to file false complaints? At that point YOU become the rule breaker dont you? I mean, If not technically, certainly in principal. Right?
The ToS is pretty broad but im sure there is some language in there about "ganging up on" or "harassing players beyond the confines of a game". Maybe even something about filing false reports? Even if there isnt, acting in that manner destroys your moral high horse in the logger discussion.
And "they cheated first" doesnt excuse anything either. That is just analogous to "he stepped on my toe so me and my 47 friends took turns beating him with a rusty pipe wrench"
The level of escalation there is ridiculous dont you think? He ran. Left. Unplugged. And you get a dozen people to file complaints? Is any of this making sense to you?
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I want it to do it 100% but simply can't.
It's too much of a coincidence when a foe vanishes at 10% hull, but I personally haven't reported any combat loggers despite seeing it numerous times and from the same trouble makers.
This game suffers from so much buzz crashing, especially in busy CG systems, that I simply wouldn't report anyone on the off chance I was wrong about it.
This game suffers from so much buzz crashing, especially in busy CG systems, that I simply wouldn't report anyone on the off chance I was wrong about it.
I have met some hackers once or twice on GTA.
What's the difference to me when I pirate? They might aswell turn on god mode and nothing would be different.
I would say principally but not technically. Not really false either, he did log and there's that. There is always video to back that claim up.
I don't much care about the moral high ground in this discussion as there never was any reason to have a high ground. Frontier said it's cheating and that's it. You can say what I do is moraly bad but that won't change the fact that they also did a bad thing.
Whatever to get some results as it doesn't seem like Frontier cares about enforcing their own rules.
I don't like it either but if it's going to stop combat logging I'm for it. Would rather Frontier do something about it but doesn't look like that's happening.
In the end I don't force anyone to report anyone, I'll send them a video of it happening so they can also see he's cheating and report him for doing so if they want to. They may not have been there but they saw what happaned. Don't think that's against the rules.
There's always npc's, they don't log. They also rarely know what's good to haul sadly. Course you know all that.. Though I have made >20mil from one npc before
Engineers is going to seriously shake things up methinks, looking forward to it.Anyway back OT there's no reason *in principal* that frontier can't simply collect the play stats and run reports / algo to figure out who's consistently clogging & take whatever they think is the appropriate action. Player reports shouldn't be needed. Up to them whether they're bothered though.
There's always npc's, they don't log. They also rarely know what's good to haul sadly. Course you know all that.. Though I have made >20mil from one npc before
Anyway back OT there's no reason *in principal* that frontier can't simply collect the play stats and run reports / algo to figure out who's consistently clogging & take whatever they think is the appropriate action. Player reports shouldn't be needed. Up to them whether they're bothered though.
The NPC pirating is so barebone. No interaction nothing just pew pew powerplant and a couple of hatch breakers.
Yeah same as the bounty hunting game, agreed. Just requires slightly more finness. I find it kinda relaxing personally, a brilliant contrast to the often heart-thumping times pulling real cmdrs over.
Maybe consistent clogging should be rewarded with some kind of in-game penalty? Like a loss of faction rep across the board, the more you clog the more it drops you.
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Imagine those d-bags that constantly grief & log turning round to find every station & outpost has them on their kos list.. That'd be priceless.
Nah. Shadowban from Open.
I get that people can be (not to say Error is, he seems as reasonable as can be tbh) but I really do think that if you play in Open then thats the risk you take - the bad with the good. This will be doubly true when Private Groups land.
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