Is "Save"ing still a legitimate tactic to avoid destruction ?

One thing I'm really trying to understand, and perhaps someone can layman it for me..

Why is it so important to destroy someone's ship, who has already submitted, lost, and is running with their tail between their legs?

Just for the fact you have already won, makes you the winner, yet, the zero in game incentive to send the opponent to the insurance screen seems irrelevant, pointless, and has no further in game importance.

Perhaps my illogical vantage point makes me miss the finer details...

plus, don't forget, there are the comms to talk..
 
One thing I'm really trying to understand, and perhaps someone can layman it for me..

Why is it so important to destroy someone's ship, who has already submitted, lost, and is running with their tail between their legs?

Just for the fact you have already won, makes you the winner, yet, the zero in game incentive to send the opponent to the insurance screen seems irrelevant, pointless, and has no further in game importance.

Perhaps my illogical vantage point makes me miss the finer details...

I have my own theory on that....

It hasn't escaped my notice that the one thing that - for want of a better phrase - the rabid PvP'ers get their endorphin-rush the most out of, is seeing the other ship go KABLOOEY! This appears to be a prime motivation for their behaviour in this game. Denying these players their KABLOOEY! seems to me that it's rather like depriving an addict of their rush, and bad things always happen due to that. This might explain why the CMDR of the FdL was so persistent in chasing after the Conda - they wanted their KABLOOEY! pretty badly. ;)
 
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the FdL was so persistent in chasing after the Conda - they wanted their KABLOOEY! pretty badly.

I did chuckle, nice work..

Also the quote, I can sooo picture Sheldon saying such a thing!

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I wonder if the same people who say that there is no such thing as griefing in Elite are also OK with people combat logging by quitting through the menu?

Either the Elite universe is completely amoral or there are standards of play to adhere to. I think the OP isn't particularly proud of what he did and sure yeah he'll lose respect. But asking whether it is legitimate or not is asking a hundred different people for a hundred different answers.

Personally I would have continued playing and tried doing silent running while boosting away with FA off once my shields were down. Or you could have tried ramming the FDL the moment you realised that he was a better pilot. FDLs really are glass cannons. Either way it's all a learning experience and ultimately just a game.
 
If he couldn't catch you, then he couldn't catch you. I don't know of any in game mechanic that would allow him to catch you if you were in the faster ship actively boosting, unless we're talking running out of fuel here. In this case, it was a stalemate you ended early. That's not the same as logging out to avoid destruction.


That's true. If the Anaconda is faster and was getting away for long enough to recharge its shields, then what's the difference between logging out using the menu after waiting 15 seconds and continuing to boost away for another few minutes and choosing a random direction?
 
That's true. If the Anaconda is faster and was getting away for long enough to recharge its shields, then what's the difference between logging out using the menu after waiting 15 seconds and continuing to boost away for another few minutes and choosing a random direction?


But but.... the KABLOOEY!
 
I remember my first encounter when I was just starting and the guy in viper attacked me in my eagle at nav beacon. He shot my drives to pieces and left me spinning. As soon as I got them to work, he did the same thing. I said something like "get the xxxx over with this" but he just laughed, so I self-destructed. If I knew at a time that I could just log out and perhaps live I would do it. The hell with the PvP community and whatnot. If someone cannot kill you then they shouldn't be complaining that you logget of or something.

I play solo now, I don't need any griefer game on my HDD and am thankful for the possibility.
 
Boy you sure raised some heat fast... Have some rep for your courage to post about it.

And I think you managed to get away, so don't think any harm was done. Although you could probably have gained more distance before doing this.
 
And this is what causes people to say let the victims of mode invasion cry for not getting their safe space.

Asinine? Yes.

Funny? No.

but........ presumably OP was in OPEN so if the response to getting angry on people exiting the game in open, is to go and run amok in private groups, then that is taking out your temper on the wrong target surely?

the thing i do not get, rather than log out in the legitimate way, why not high wake twice quickly? (edit actually op said FSD offline i take that back - tho if you reboot your system with FA off do you still slow down - in theory you should not but i have never tried it.)

not only would this escape the wrath of the PvPers, but would have probably been safer as well as he would have been able to carry on boosting and kept out of the FDLs guns until the 5 second count down.

now personally if it were me.... if I was clean, and minding my own business and someone attacked me for lols not for cargo if the only way to escape was a legal log out.... I MAY consider it... I dunno, never been faced with that call..

but if I STARTED the fight? naaaah that is cheap in the extreme. if a player wants to start a fight and they bite off more they can chew then imo they should take their medicine.
 
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but........ presumably OP was in OPEN so if the response to getting angry on people exiting the game in open, is to go and run amok in private groups, then that is taking out your temper on the wrong target surely?

the thing i do not get, rather than log out in the legitimate way, why not high wake twice quickly?

not only would this escape the wrath of the PvPers, but would have probably been safer as well as he would have been able to carry on boosting and kept out of the FDLs guns until the 5 second count down.

The FSD was bust so no wake out, I think the OP would have been better maintaining the boost away as it was working and they were no longer in fire range, keep doing that for a few minutes and they'd have got a comfortable amount of time to reboot the FSD and high wake out, let's face an Annie would only have to jump 15 ly or more to be well outside the range of an FDL sans Jumponium.
 
The FSD was bust so no wake out, I think the OP would have been better maintaining the boost away as it was working and they were no longer in fire range, keep doing that for a few minutes and they'd have got a comfortable amount of time to reboot the FSD and high wake out, let's face an Annie would only have to jump 15 ly or more to be well outside the range of an FDL sans Jumponium.

aye you replied before i finished my edit..... :D
 
The FSD was bust so no wake out, I think the OP would have been better maintaining the boost away as it was working and they were no longer in fire range, keep doing that for a few minutes and they'd have got a comfortable amount of time to reboot the FSD and high wake out, let's face an Annie would only have to jump 15 ly or more to be well outside the range of an FDL sans Jumponium.

why does he has to boost for some more minutes? to have your respect? dammit, it is hard to find someone respecting a pvper that has no respect for you first.
the FDL could have asked what was going on, no, his ego arised first and started shooting (according to op).

I don't get why he has to show respect at all, what is this.. a gentlemen club of people that shoot each other without mercy?

he got out of range, not getting any shoot and didn't unplug the cable waited 15 secs. deal with it, leave others play their way without having to demonstrate anything to you guys.
 
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Congratz on making many KoS lists, mine included.

Going to have to call you out on this.

According to the OP the Cobra was no longer in any danger what so ever and had he continued to do so he could have boosted until the FDL was no longer showing on the radar.

The FDL had lost.

So why is it then, in this scenario, they deserve (laughably I add, laughing at you & your KOS list) do they deserve to be on it ?

What's the justification ? The FDL was never going to catch the cobra ... The fight was over :rolleyes:
 
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Going to have to call you out on this.

According to the OP the Cobra was no longer in any danger what so ever and had he continued to do so he could have boosted until the FDL was no longer showing on the radar.

The FDL had lost.

So why is it then, in this scenario, they deserve (laughably I add, laughing at you & your KOS list) do they deserve to be on it ?

What's the justification ? The FDL was never going to catch the cobra ... The fight was over :rolleyes:


Someone didn't read through the thread :)
 
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