List of combat loggers has reached 250 recorded loggers, with 322 total logs. Frontier, this is a problem

[sndle9]

SDC taking part in PvP league season 2, and made it to the final with Adle's Armada team. In other words you just said that 8 other teams and all the pilots they contain (51TH Massilia, BBfA, BIG, Contrail, RoA, The Winged Hussars, The Guild of Rebuy Screenius Maximus, Time of Chaos) offered little challenge.

I said want easy targets, this does not mean you always get easy targets.
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If anything, the fact that you did well in the PvP League (congratulations BTW) and are therefore pretty skilled killers makes the more common day to day behaviour of killing random totally out-matched players and in some cases, going out of your way to do so in a private group that is even less likely to provide decent opponents even worse.
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It just shows the groups mentality overall, especially when you then go on to complain about the people that deny you your salt ration by legitimately quitting the game are just as bad as the actual combat loggers because they don't respect your right to kill them.
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Please set up an anti-Mobius group for all the PK'ers and players that love being interdicted by a player wing of FDL's and Vultures while trundling along in their T-7 or newbie sidewinder to join and let us know how many commanders flock to it as you are so clear that your way of playing is the best and only way to play.

 

[CaptainKremmen]

If you'd looked at our spreadsheet, ...

Angry villagers brandishing spreadsheets makes a nice change from the usual flaming torches and pitchforks.

 

[Leper Messiah]

can't be       to read the entire thread, but one thing springs to mind:

Just create a sodding PvP group and then you can police it and ban loggers all you want all day long! Job done, everyones happy.....let's have a drink. Unless of course many people LIKE attacking people who don't want to be attacked.

 

[Robert Maynard]

Considering you recently said you value all modes your comments on this, which make excuses for cheating, say otherwise.

Not at all. I'm all in favour of all players being able to choose the number of players that they play with - and remain opposed to any measure to coerce / force players to play in a mode other than the one they want to at that point in time.

Combat Logging is exploiting the network architecture to reduce loss - cheating - and, I expect, occurs in all three game modes.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Much as it pains me to agree with SDC

Don't get me wrong, I agree as well that Combat Logging through cable pull should be an infractionable offense. And Combat Logging through the exit menu is a disrespectful practise.

The irony is that a member of a group who proudly claim to take part in as many disrespectful practises with the explicit intent to annoy other players is complaining about this disrespectful practise. If I were to be a holy person I'd talk about specks of sawdusts and planks.

 

[Yaffle]

What has this got to do with the subject of the thread? Lets get back on topic.. Combat logging and cheating.

Mr Cosmos is correct. Please stick to the topic.

 

[CMDR Zadian Lichtfrost]

Cheating and exploiting is a big problem within gaming. Usually, a company has a no tolerance policy towards it and punishes those who do it. It would appear Frontier couldn't care less.
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I agree. FD needs to punish those who cheat or exploit the game. Maybe they are doing it and nobody notices it, because FD keeps silent about it. I don't know. I think FD should communicate very clearly what they do, why they do it and give the community the feeling that doing something against FDs rules will have serve consequences.

At the same time FD needs to find solutions to the problems that causes the "combat logging". Certainly not easy.

 

[Derath]

Nope, "Killers like (You) and another players in this thread" also have two modes available .. you are totally free to create your own PvP only private group and if it is something that people are interested in they will join (Exactly what Mobius did) .. you have the same choices as everyone else.

If only there was a mode already generated for them where all of their actions are permissible? Oh wait...

 

[Robert Maynard]

By ignoring those two options to fly in open then ignore the consequences of their actions/inactions by pulling the plug.

Possibly due to the fact that Open is the only unlimited population game mode - and the ones that seek a co-operative experience with random players then resort to logging when they meet a player that wants to destroy them.

If there was an Open-PvE analog to Open then I expect that there'd be less of a Combat Logging problem in Open....

 

[AdriánGuth]

I guest that i deserve to ban because im fron latin ameria and my internet service falls several time for day.

The probblem are not the combat logers, the problem are that some people use the game just for big ego measure reasons.

 

[frostypaw]

What has this got to do with the subject of the thread? Lets get back on topic.. Combat logging and cheating.

Yes apparently it's a HUGE issue because the game is all about killing other humans and there's nothing else to do - we're bang on topic.

Moments from your post the guy will claim powerplay is broken because he can't pvp people in solo - because I guess he imagines that's the only way to be involved in powerplay. but it's not a purely pvp game. so he's wrong - he should learn to use multiple tactics, not insist on the game being changed so he can use his one.

 

[Kazacy]

Angry villagers brandishing spreadsheets makes a nice change from the usual flaming torches and pitchforks.

I am one of the guys who put some names in that spreadsheet and your comment really, i mean really make my day.
I am really sorry i cannot rep you more.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Angry villagers brandishing spreadsheets makes a nice change from the usual flaming torches and pitchforks.

It's a feature they took from EvE

 

[Luniticisi]

If only there was a mode already generated for them where all of their actions are permissible? Oh wait...

Open does indeed allow this sort of thing, Just as it allows the 15second time out ... posting something along the lines of "Us PvP players only have one choice" is false and I was pointing that out ..

 

[frostypaw]

Please set up an anti-Mobius group for all the PK'ers and players that love being interdicted by a player wing of FDL's and Vultures while trundling along in their T-7 or newbie sidewinder to join and let us know how many commanders flock to it as you are so clear that your way of playing is the best and only way to play.

This is the obvious and simple solution that has been available to them since day 1 - so I mostly assume they tried it and found out people don't want to join such a group, hence the constant pressure to make the whole game that group - only way they get their salt.

 

[Cosmos]

I agree. FD needs to punish those who cheat or exploit the game. Maybe they are doing it and nobody notices it, because FD keeps silent about it. I don't know. I think FD should communicate very clearly what they do, why they do it and give the community the feeling that doing something against FDs rules will have serve consequences.

At the same time FD needs to find solutions to the problems that causes the "combat logging". Certainly not easy.

Well if they are doing anything about it they are certainly keeping any actions very quiet. I happen to believe they have decided not to act upon it as evidenced by the 15 second log out timer. Only recently Sandro, the LEAD designer, made some smart alec remark about this. I'm starting to lose faith in that guy and wonder if he's the right person for the job.

The 15 second log out timer needs to be revised and Frontier need to take visible action so folks don't CL in the first place. Without action been seen to be done there is no percievable deterrent and it will persist.

 

[Derath]

Possibly due to the fact that Open is the only unlimited population game mode - and the ones that seek a co-operative experience with random players then resort to logging when they meet a player that wants to destroy them.

If there was an Open-PvE analog to Open then I expect that there'd be less of a Combat Logging problem in Open....

If they did something about it there would be less of a combat logging problem, the people who deliberately choose open then log everytime they have a hostile interaction is like me complaining there aren't any co-op partners in solo - its almost like it isn't the ruleset for the mode I chose.

 

[Sole Hunter]

I agree. FD needs to punish those who cheat or exploit the game. Maybe they are doing it and nobody notices it, because FD keeps silent about it. I don't know. I think FD should communicate very clearly what they do, why they do it and give the community the feeling that doing something against FDs rules will have serve consequences.

At the same time FD needs to find solutions to the problems that causes the "combat logging". Certainly not easy.

communication is by far one of their weak point.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

communication is by far one of their weak point.

Common ground \o/

 

[CMDR Zadian Lichtfrost]

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If there was an Open-PvE analog to Open then I expect that there'd be less of a Combat Logging problem in Open....

Not sure about that. Could be that some/a lot/a few/unknown number of the combat loggers want PvP, but just don't want to be the one who sees the re-buy screen.