So you want to know about the Formidine Rift? (Part 3)
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If you count the logo outline itself there are eight stars, and I believe there are eight planets as well. (The numbers change slightly as I have my morning coffee).
I was thinking about this last night (always a bad idea), and started wondering if the Seven Veils is an allegory for imperial politics, and it may only be indirectly connected to the Rift mystery (and perhaps more directly to the motivations and background of Salome herself). Here is my thinking for what it is worth, make sure the tinfoil blanket is pulled tightly around your shoulders, question marks indicate the bits that don't quite fit or need confirmation:
What if Emperor Hengist Duval = King Herod Antipas, and the dance of the Seven Veils is imperial politics?
Classical version:
Herod marries Herodia, former wife of his half-brother Herod II (just to really confuse the names)
Salome, niece of Herod (daughter of Herodia and Herod's half-brother, and therefore now stepdaughter of Herod) is offered a reward for performing dance of the Seven Veils on Herod’s birthday.
Asks for head of John the Baptist who had criticized Herod’s marriage to Herodia.
Elite version:
Hengist Duval is to marry Florence Lavigny, former wife(?) of Emperor Duval’s half-brother (?) Prince Aristide Lavigny, but is assassinated the day before the wedding.
Arissa seen as a niece of Hengist Duval
After probable assassination of Aristide, Arissa later claims to be illegitimate daughter of Hengist Duval and Florence Lavigny, and eventually becomes Empress because of this after assassination of Hengist.
Could Salome be another illegitimate daughter of Hengist? And therefore a half-sister of Arissa?
Salome then asks for head of Patreus for his taking Prism and his criticizing marriage of Hengist Duval and Florence Lavigny, and for criticizing/competing against Arissa Lavigny-Duval as Empress? And perhaps has a claim to the throne herself? Perhaps there is something in the Rift that will aid her in making this claim, or that will discredit Lavigny-Duval or Patreus?
Or is there some other political intrigue connection here that would have Salome involved in a dance of the Seven Veils for Arrisa Lavigny-Duval, or even earlier for Hengist Duval?
And how would any of this connect to the mystery of the Rift, if this is what the mythology of the Seven Veils and Salome's name represents?
Too many migraine-level questions, and probably too convoluted to make any sense with too little significance to the puzzle of the Rift, but thought I would throw it out there.
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The Large Star is stylistically different from the smaller ones so it may be possible to rule that one out.
On closer inspection though it looks 9 or 10 circles or 'planets' if you will.
I think that's driving home the 7's quite nicely - it honks of being the Pleiades which has it's 7 bright well known bodies then is mostly full of non-radiant brown dwarves
We need to track down the first mention of each of the leaders of the 'Powers' in Galnet, I think.
If I'm right only seven of them are mentioned in Galnet prior to their being introduced as leadership in 'Powerplay'. These *MIGHT* be the seven veils.
1. President Halsey (now represented by Winters)
2. Hudson, who was 'Shadow President'
3. Mahon, I believe he was introduced as PM of the Alliance during the Lugh war
4. A. Lavigny-Duval
5. Aisling Duval
6. Torval
7. Patreus
I think the remaining 'Powers' don't get their leaders mentioned until after PowerPlay was announced. I'll need to do further research to make sure of that.
Drew said there are clues in the old Galnet articles. What if these clues are related to each of these seven characters?
If I'm right only seven of them are mentioned in Galnet prior to their being introduced as leadership in 'Powerplay'. These *MIGHT* be the seven veils.
1. President Halsey (now represented by Winters)
2. Hudson, who was 'Shadow President'
3. Mahon, I believe he was introduced as PM of the Alliance during the Lugh war
4. A. Lavigny-Duval
5. Aisling Duval
6. Torval
7. Patreus
I think the remaining 'Powers' don't get their leaders mentioned until after PowerPlay was announced. I'll need to do further research to make sure of that.
Drew said there are clues in the old Galnet articles. What if these clues are related to each of these seven characters?
Just be careful not to read too much into my observations (I tried to keep that in mind when I made my post) - it might be something, or just a massive coincidence as to where that "telescope" was pointing to.
If you encounter any more of these things in the bubble, try and see where they point at - some may point inwards to the galaxy, and some may point outwards. Just take note of them and report back here your findings!
Regards
P.S. If anyone else does encounter similar structures - take note of where they point to, and possibly return there at some time afterwards (i.e. hours afterwards to give the planet they're on time to move/rotate) to see if it still points to the same region(s)
If you encounter any more of these things in the bubble, try and see where they point at - some may point inwards to the galaxy, and some may point outwards. Just take note of them and report back here your findings!
Regards
P.S. If anyone else does encounter similar structures - take note of where they point to, and possibly return there at some time afterwards (i.e. hours afterwards to give the planet they're on time to move/rotate) to see if it still points to the same region(s)
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This seems an unlikely line to me. PP wasn't even a pipe dream when the book was written and his location/clues had to be setup at least partiallly when the book was written. Secondly Drew is not overly fond of PP so I have a hard time envisioning him incorporating it like that.
In response to the logo of the "stars", I did some looking into the 6 pointed star. Its used in occultism quite a bit. "The hexagram, like the pentagram, was and is used in practices of the occult and ceremonial magic and is attributed to the 7 "old" planets outlined in astrology." Maybe this 7 "old" planets is what we are looking for? Could be nothing. I also count 4-6 pointed stars, 3-3 pointed stars, and 9 circles. Some of which are very small. Maybe a map to a system somehow?
Sounds like an Intel monitoring station, receiving signals from what is now a locked system & forwarding them onto a HQ via the second dish. Would be worthwhile:
a) monitoring both dishes over time to confirm they are locked to those specific parts of the sky
b) following the second dish alignment to locate the HQ
if it's the Dark Wheel, then presumably the logo is either a stylised vision of Raxxla? Or else it's a logo of a subdivision of DW tasked to monitor alien activity in the Witchhead region?
Do we know what the dark wheel logo looks like? Has anything official ever been seen?
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Not that I am aware of. There is an unofficial player-created logo floating around which Drew has used in the past, but it is not canon. As a supposedly highly secret organization, it is highly probable that they have no logo I would think.
Great summary clavian. I'll update the OPs with the new information a little later
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I'm having a jolly little time pootling around H&S nebulas right now, honking at shiny things and letting all the information percolate.
There is the honor of posting the first video of being blown up beyond the rift by them/it. Don't need mods to enter that contest. Could try purely defensive techniques of which I have seen very little; then they're expensive to test and try, emerg drop, shoot mines and heat sink, fa off and try to skulk away or hide in silence. Has worked with npc's, don't believe a player would fall for it. Very little on pure defense, probably because there isn't any.
Chase the new DW bases, could be fun.
Find Hassan's home world though irrelevant, vexing. Scan every double star system in Wredguia for actinic and then full scan.
Feels like the Tionisla Graveyard.
Do what 'the old woman" wants and fix the garden wall.
Something else anything else,,
Aaaw, damn. I knew I forgot something
OOoh my first forum ignore.
Joking. But seriously we're trying to look like we're onto something here - do you mind?
OOoh my first forum ignore.
Joking. But seriously we're trying to look like we're onto something here - do you mind?
Don't worry, I'm just being annoying. I'm heading back from the rift to wait for Horizons (XBOX) having just been across the Heisenburg Bridge and done a circuit back across the rift to the west. Found nothing...
Incidentally, I ran a search of the Galnet articles for 'Core Problem' and other than core Dynamics references, it returned a story entitled 'My Husband is a Thargoid'. The story gave details of an explorer loosing his mind and the system CEECKIA QA-L D9-0 A 4 . Its on the wrong side of the core, but has anyone been there?.....
http://ed.frank-heinrich.net/index.php?title=Local_Galnet_Archive
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thats beagle point.....
errr i should have said "isnt that beagle point?"
errr i should have said "isnt that beagle point?"
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