Game Discussions The No Man's Sky Thread

[frostypaw]

I feel just the same, with an added element of worry that people have some utterly ridiculous ideas about the game and expect it to have the realism and options of Elite

Hopefully they won't be too disappointed, the two games are different enough for me to think they can coexist happily, I am just expecting some fall-out from how people's imagination has been allowed to run free. A few REAL sample systems rather than the rigged full-of-life-and-interest ones they've used to demo (they have said they're model systems) would have gone a long way I think

 

[Ian Skippy]

I seem to remember in one of the videos that Sean said that large (e.g. terraforming) changes persist, but are local only to you, and that small stuff (e.g. dead animal) does not persist. Well, that's how I recall it, could be wrong.

As an aside I varyingly like and loath HG's almost obsessive level of privacy they maintain around NMS. I like it because it hopefully means lots of fun surprises for us, and dislike it because I am a needy cry baby... err... I mean super excited about it.

We want persistence, but we can't have persistence of everything. Right? So, we have persistence of things that are significant. So, if I shoot a bird, then we don't feel the need to share that with everyone, but it is saved locally. That's locally stored and that bird is dead forever on your machine... If you do something of significance, maybe you take out a space station or a fleet or something like that or desecrate a planet, take away all it's resources or whatever, then, we might think that's significant and we might share that and then that would be the same for everyone. - Sean Murray

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbFebgl_Vq8&feature=youtu.be&t=10m5s

Ofcourse, this was said two years ago, so at this point noone really knows.

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I'm starting to think Sean Murray delayed No Man's Sky out of courtesy to Braben, to allow the Frontier team to fix the enormous waste of time that is 2.1 before No Man's Sky steals every single PvE player from Elite... I know I wouldn't be here playing broken missions, grinding rep with engineers and searching for randomly dropped easter eggs around space if it wasn't for Elite being the only show in town at the moment. I fear I am addicted to space games...

On the other hand, it does bear considering that in NMS there aren't any missions at all, you can only have one ship and there ain't engineers for it.

 

[PiLhEaD]

...the two games are different enough for me to think they can coexist happily...

100% agree. I really like the art-book look of NMS, in exactly the same way that I like the realistic look of ED, and I'm expecting NMS will make a nice break from and contrast to ED.

What I hope will be healthy is that having another 'big space' space-game released will allow sensible comparisons to be made (hmmm, I may be hoping for too much there), so that people can see how each game does varying things better/worse/same, and that no game is ever black-or-white... ...perhaps an inappropriate phrase to use in the space genre.

If it also helps dampen down the sometimes pie-in-the-sky (unrealistic) wants/dreams that we gamers all fall prey to (even me!) then that's all to the good too. That said, I am expecting more than a few 'I want <feature X> from game <y> in <this> game' type of threads, but I think each game spurring the other on is great for everyone.

 

[frostypaw]

What I hope will be healthy is that having another 'big space' space-game released will allow sensible comparisons to be made (hmmm, I may be hoping for too much there), so that people can see how each game does varying things better/worse/same, and that no game is ever black-or-white... ...perhaps an inappropriate phrase to use in the space genre.

Indeed - this isn't a god game you know.

Exactly this so very much. Elite has suffered horribly from being the only released option so the others can be hope-casted against ad infinitum and they are ALWAYS amazing in people's dreams.

Aww :/ I really do hope they pull this off.

 

[CMDR Dumbfries]

I'm starting to think Sean Murray delayed No Man's Sky out of courtesy to Braben, to allow the Frontier team to fix the enormous waste of time that is 2.1 before No Man's Sky steals every single PvE player from Elite... I know I wouldn't be here playing broken missions, grinding rep with engineers and searching for randomly dropped easter eggs around space if it wasn't for Elite being the only show in town at the moment. I fear I am addicted to space games...

I was actually a bit relieved to see it was pushed back because I don't have the cash to rebuild my gaming rig right now.
Still hoping it may get an xbox release which may be part of the reason for the delay.

 

[PiLhEaD]

Still hoping it may get an xbox release which may be part of the reason for the delay.

I'd be absolutely amazed if that was the case given that Sony are on record as having said that they are treating NMS as if it were an in house developed game.

I don't mind either way and tend to think 'the more the merrier', but given Sony hasn't got ED yet I'd strongly suspect they'll want this as an exclusive for a while yet. Doubly so if it works, or is planned to, with PSVR.

Sorry :-(

 

[BurnyBurns]

I'm personally more amazed nothing new about NMS has come out of E3 so far. Or wasn't I looking hard enough? Are they more busy finishing hte game than promoting it on shows this shortly before its release or is there another reason?

 

[Viajero]

*Mod hat off

I'm personally more amazed nothing new about NMS has come out of E3 so far. Or wasn't I looking hard enough? Are they more busy finishing hte game than promoting it on shows this shortly before its release or is there another reason?

True, true. Let´s see.

 

[knowles2]

I'm personally more amazed nothing new about NMS has come out of E3 so far. Or wasn't I looking hard enough? Are they more busy finishing hte game than promoting it on shows this shortly before its release or is there another reason?

Wasn't the game suppose to have been release in June, I'm not entirely surprise NMS didn't have anything prepared for E3, they probably weren't planning to do another E3 for while and for their next game post NMS. .

 

[Cydramech]

I've been waiting since even before its official announcement a few years back to play No Man's Sky, and will be playing it both on PS4 (Limited Edition) & PC (Explorer's Edition). The first two things I plan on doing are to destroy an entire planet and wage war on the Sentinels.

Wasn't the game suppose to have been release in June, I'm not entirely surprise NMS didn't have anything prepared for E3, they probably weren't planning to do another E3 for while and for their next game post NMS. .

Even though it's not unheard of for games or game content to be previewed at E3 only to be released in such a short timeframe (Beyond: Two Souls & FFXIV's Heavensward are two known examples), it is a rather uncommon occurrence. So yeah, it's unlikely they had prepared anything at E3. (Not to mention, many people may take it as adding salt to an open wound.)

 

[frostypaw]

I'm curious - why two copies?

And iirc you can't destroy a planet, the voxel layer is only so 'thick' and you'll hit the bottom

 

[Mu77ley]

I'm curious - why two copies?

And iirc you can't destroy a planet, the voxel layer is only so 'thick' and you'll hit the bottom

I've bought two copies as well. One for the PS4 for the kids to play, and one for the PC for me to play.

 

[knowles2]

I'm curious - why two copies?

And iirc you can't destroy a planet, the voxel layer is only so 'thick' and you'll hit the bottom

That won't stop people from trying, we are a destructive race, probably why the sentinels were created in the first place.

 

[frostypaw]

That won't stop people from trying, we are a destructive race, probably why the sentinels were created in the first place.

Watching Sean's face as a guy handed the controller for the first time ever just starts bombing the hell out of creatures and trying to rocket-jump them is a wonderful picture....

I've got all sorts of theories about this delay. Strongest is that they've now done the proper playtesting stuff with a whole new random set of players and there's been two shocks - how violent and unpleasant people are willing to be, and how disappointed people are the galaxy isn't teeming with life.

They seem to underestimate the former by the reactions to the number of questions about genocidal play, and I reckon the game's audience will have vastly overestimated how much crazy life/nice worlds there are, fueled by very very few clips ever showing the more empty worlds that Sean says most of the galaxy consists of - let alone the true flight times which at low engine-tech levels can be half an hour or more, he's stated the demo systems are shrunk and filled with interest on purpose for showing the game off.

Those are the nice explanations anyway, just misunderstandings and the same hyped expectations we've experienced here with ED. Things they can work out (better sentinels) and ride out (misunderstandings)

The cruddier one is that Sony turned around and said "no - this isn't the game WE were expecting" etc and they force it, which risks bending/breaking the artistic vision they've had which would be a shame.

 

[bitstorm]

Watching Sean's face as a guy handed the controller for the first time ever just starts bombing the hell out of creatures and trying to rocket-jump them is a wonderful picture....

I've got all sorts of theories about this delay. Strongest is that they've now done the proper playtesting stuff with a whole new random set of players and there's been two shocks - how violent and unpleasant people are willing to be, and how disappointed people are the galaxy isn't teeming with life.

They seem to underestimate the former by the reactions to the number of questions about genocidal play, and I reckon the game's audience will have vastly overestimated how much crazy life/nice worlds there are, fueled by very very few clips ever showing the more empty worlds that Sean says most of the galaxy consists of - let alone the true flight times which at low engine-tech levels can be half an hour or more, he's stated the demo systems are shrunk and filled with interest on purpose for showing the game off.

Those are the nice explanations anyway, just misunderstandings and the same hyped expectations we've experienced here with ED.

Well let's be honest, this is inevitable.

The reactions on the delay says it all, like some people not quite grounded in reality. Expectations sky high.

I'm expecting backlash on release, even if it's a great game.

 

[Cydramech]

I'm curious - why two copies?

I like the physical goods both offer, and I want to play on two separate systems. It's nothing new for me to do either.

Explorer's Edition (PC)
Limited Edition (PS4)

And iirc you can't destroy a planet, the voxel layer is only so 'thick' and you'll hit the bottom

There's conflicting information on that, but it sure won't stop me from trying.

Watching Sean's face as a guy handed the controller for the first time ever just starts bombing the hell out of creatures and trying to rocket-jump them is a wonderful picture....

I may plan to send Sean Murray a present like that. Actually, this will be my first (and probably only) game I decide to stream a "let's play"/"Twitch" thing of.

 

[Cynaqq]

Well let's be honest, this is inevitable.

The reactions on the delay says it all, like some people not quite grounded in reality. Expectations sky high.

I'm expecting backlash on release, even if it's a great game.

And that's exactly what you, me and a lot of veteran gamers have been saying both for ED and NMS since forever. It will be the most amazing game at what it does with nothing comparable to it but it'll still be compared to 'the everygame' and will be bashed around.

I'm still super excited for what they'll have to offer, I just keep my expectations in check after a lifetime filled with shattered overhype dreams. Luckily, it's been a while since I've last been 15.

 

[cpbtrading]

Every game gets hammered before and after release. Just the way things are.
I'll be too busy exploring to bother too much, well that's what I'm hoping.
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Delays happen, I just roll with it.

 

[Captain Sharky]

It's no fun without VR support anyway, so they may delay all they want until it will be there [noob]

 

[PiLhEaD]

Just when I thought I'd heard it all, I read:

No Man's Sky: Developer Hello Games Settles Lawsuit With Sky TV Over Game's Title, Founder Says -
Hello Games settled the dispute over the use of the word "sky," studio founder Sean Murray tweeted. Murray called the lawsuit "3 years of secret stupid legal nonsense."

Has Sky seriously been suing every and any one using the word Sky in the title of anything? Yes it seems, including Microsoft.

#gobsmacked

I suspect we have the real reason behind the delay. Thanks Rupert.