yes. It's a bug with the bugs. Merope 2a, nowhere near the Cap ship/barnacles. Game crashes in flight. In SRV. When moving. When parked. yada, yada.
Grrr.
Now we have 'Server Issues Detected'
Double grrr.
UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 6 - The Canonn
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Grrr.
Now we have 'Server Issues Detected'
Double grrr.
I second those server issues.
Guys, I noticed something peculiar around the Orion Nebula... it might not seem like much on it's own... but I believe the symbol on the barnacles provides the hint (Orion surrounded by Bernard's Loop?).
Anyways, my reason for this, please consult the following list - https://www.edsm.net/systems/pairs
In particular, the Orionis sectors on the list... ex:
Now, there's a giant permit wall blocking this area in 2.1, but on the CNE we found a few paths in. In fact, the main one is via the Witch Head Nebula, where more barnacles were recently discovered.
Anyways, it seems that a bunch of the Orionis sectors, which would have been well explored and discovered by now have moved to new coordinates (all except V1522 which seems to have vanished), and new, named systems have taken their place. I have a strong feeling they are from 2.1 because named systems in a popular location should not be undiscovered at this point... Yet the named systems seemed relatively pristine in terms of exploration... it's even stranger because the unnamed systems are very thoroughly tagged. I have 120 discovered bodies from this trip, all in the named systems. I couldn't find any in the procedural systems or the 1k Ly along the way...
The kicker, is some of the coordinates on EDSM were from May shortly before the 2.1 patch, so the moved systems is a recent thing. FDev is up to something in Orion folks, maybe I figure I'd share this with the people who could potentially gain from it the most.
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on this though. I did only start playing a month ago... but I've yet to have so many inconsistencies with EDSM, plus the systems in particular are named and not procedural... seems like something to me...
Either that or I found a chain of named systems that very few CMDRs have even noticed? But it seems unlikely, the conflicts on EDSM indicate something more, I feel.
Bonus - confirmation of 1st Witch Head Barnacles: http://imgur.com/GEF2SOg & http://imgur.com/2Nnj38h
And 2nd Witch Head Barnacles: http://imgur.com/3NB9WTL & http://imgur.com/sFtxdPa
Shoulda taken some with coords, but whatever, I got there off the coords in this thread. By now you guys have probably confirmed them pretty well anyhow, I'd imagine.
Anyways, my reason for this, please consult the following list - https://www.edsm.net/systems/pairs
In particular, the Orionis sectors on the list... ex:
Now, there's a giant permit wall blocking this area in 2.1, but on the CNE we found a few paths in. In fact, the main one is via the Witch Head Nebula, where more barnacles were recently discovered.
Anyways, it seems that a bunch of the Orionis sectors, which would have been well explored and discovered by now have moved to new coordinates (all except V1522 which seems to have vanished), and new, named systems have taken their place. I have a strong feeling they are from 2.1 because named systems in a popular location should not be undiscovered at this point... Yet the named systems seemed relatively pristine in terms of exploration... it's even stranger because the unnamed systems are very thoroughly tagged. I have 120 discovered bodies from this trip, all in the named systems. I couldn't find any in the procedural systems or the 1k Ly along the way...
The kicker, is some of the coordinates on EDSM were from May shortly before the 2.1 patch, so the moved systems is a recent thing. FDev is up to something in Orion folks, maybe I figure I'd share this with the people who could potentially gain from it the most.
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on this though. I did only start playing a month ago... but I've yet to have so many inconsistencies with EDSM, plus the systems in particular are named and not procedural... seems like something to me...
Either that or I found a chain of named systems that very few CMDRs have even noticed? But it seems unlikely, the conflicts on EDSM indicate something more, I feel.
Bonus - confirmation of 1st Witch Head Barnacles: http://imgur.com/GEF2SOg & http://imgur.com/2Nnj38h
And 2nd Witch Head Barnacles: http://imgur.com/3NB9WTL & http://imgur.com/sFtxdPa
Shoulda taken some with coords, but whatever, I got there off the coords in this thread. By now you guys have probably confirmed them pretty well anyhow, I'd imagine.
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Aww... I hope thats not the "cool" thing he was talking about. I mean.. I dont think alot of us are going to do passenger stuff. I do hope the cool thing he was talking about has not happend yet
There's a lot of interesting gameplay possible starting from passenger missions. I've been waiting for this since beta.
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cant give it away just yet.... but myself and and a few other people have spent a few days researching... and we are 99% sure we have figured it all out. the connections weve made between certain things is to much to be just straight coincidence.. and might i say very creative. i think when people figure it out they to will be surprised... #winteriscoming
If think you've figured it out, whatever "it" is, either state your theory or say nothing. This sort of "we know what's happening, wink, wink" rubbish is really annoying.
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This.
And I can't speak for the thread, but speaking personally, anyone who is not willing to share is not welcome here. This thread is for open investigation into ED mysteries.
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That's what spoiler tags are for. Spit it out or stop talking about it.
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Guys, I noticed something peculiar around the Orion Nebula... it might not seem like much on it's own... but I believe the symbol on the barnacles provides the hint (Orion surrounded by Bernard's Loop?).
Anyways, my reason for this, please consult the following list - https://www.edsm.net/systems/pairs
In particular, the Orionis sectors on the list... ex:
http://puu.sh/pwVUp/d758c153bf.png
Now, there's a giant permit wall blocking this area in 2.1, but on the CNE we found a few paths in. In fact, the main one is via the Witch Head Nebula, where more barnacles were recently discovered.
Anyways, it seems that a bunch of the Orionis sectors, which would have been well explored and discovered by now have moved to new coordinates (all except V1522 which seems to have vanished), and new, named systems have taken their place. I have a strong feeling they are from 2.1 because named systems in a popular location should not be undiscovered at this point... Yet the named systems seemed relatively pristine in terms of exploration... it's even stranger because the unnamed systems are very thoroughly tagged. I have 120 discovered bodies from this trip, all in the named systems. I couldn't find any in the procedural systems or the 1k Ly along the way...
The kicker, is some of the coordinates on EDSM were from May shortly before the 2.1 patch, so the moved systems is a recent thing. FDev is up to something in Orion folks, maybe I figure I'd share this with the people who could potentially gain from it the most.
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on this though. I did only start playing a month ago... but I've yet to have so many inconsistencies with EDSM, plus the systems in particular are named and not procedural... seems like something to me...
Either that or I found a chain of named systems that very few CMDRs have even noticed? But it seems unlikely, the conflicts on EDSM indicate something more, I feel.
Bonus - confirmation of 1st Witch Head Barnacles: http://imgur.com/GEF2SOg & http://imgur.com/2Nnj38h
And 2nd Witch Head Barnacles: http://imgur.com/3NB9WTL & http://imgur.com/sFtxdPa
Shoulda taken some with coords, but whatever, I got there off the coords in this thread. By now you guys have probably confirmed them pretty well anyhow, I'd imagine.
Did you raise this on the EDSM/EDD threads? You could be correct (repped for the science!) or it could perhaps be something to do with the mechanics of EDSM so worth checking out that possibility with them.
Wake me up when something happens.
I can't help feeling that we did ourselves a disservice when we named this subthreadnought. Think it should be something like
"Canonn Interstellar Research: OPEN RESULTS BOARD (read first page summary!)"
we must be coming up for subthreadnought7 soon- can we do it better next time?
Guys, I noticed something peculiar around the Orion Nebula... it might not seem like much on it's own... but I believe the symbol on the barnacles provides the hint (Orion surrounded by Bernard's Loop?).
Anyways, my reason for this, please consult the following list - https://www.edsm.net/systems/pairs
In particular, the Orionis sectors on the list... ex:
http://puu.sh/pwVUp/d758c153bf.png
Now, there's a giant permit wall blocking this area in 2.1, but on the CNE we found a few paths in. In fact, the main one is via the Witch Head Nebula, where more barnacles were recently discovered.
Anyways, it seems that a bunch of the Orionis sectors, which would have been well explored and discovered by now have moved to new coordinates (all except V1522 which seems to have vanished), and new, named systems have taken their place. I have a strong feeling they are from 2.1 because named systems in a popular location should not be undiscovered at this point... Yet the named systems seemed relatively pristine in terms of exploration... it's even stranger because the unnamed systems are very thoroughly tagged. I have 120 discovered bodies from this trip, all in the named systems. I couldn't find any in the procedural systems or the 1k Ly along the way...
The kicker, is some of the coordinates on EDSM were from May shortly before the 2.1 patch, so the moved systems is a recent thing. FDev is up to something in Orion folks, maybe I figure I'd share this with the people who could potentially gain from it the most.
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on this though. I did only start playing a month ago... but I've yet to have so many inconsistencies with EDSM, plus the systems in particular are named and not procedural... seems like something to me...
Either that or I found a chain of named systems that very few CMDRs have even noticed? But it seems unlikely, the conflicts on EDSM indicate something more, I feel.
Bonus - confirmation of 1st Witch Head Barnacles: http://imgur.com/GEF2SOg & http://imgur.com/2Nnj38h
And 2nd Witch Head Barnacles: http://imgur.com/3NB9WTL & http://imgur.com/sFtxdPa
Shoulda taken some with coords, but whatever, I got there off the coords in this thread. By now you guys have probably confirmed them pretty well anyhow, I'd imagine.
That's very interesting. Note that the "... Orionis" are real life star names; those are "named" systems as well. One possible explanation for this is that FD may have discovered some mistakes in the game positions of these real stars and have now corrected them (there are about 144,000 real life stars in ED, and they are in the correct positions as far as possible, though mistakes have been found in the past). They may have decided it was better to rename the old systems and create new systems in the correct position. Since the old systems were positioned by hand they would not have been able to revert them to the usual generated names.
It seems unlikely that FD would move existing systems for the purposes of adding content. I can't think of any reason why they would do that.
I've mentioned it to Anthor but he may be busy, and no one seems to know anything about these systems... That's where I think don't focus too much on EDSM, it's more raw data to reinforce my theory. I think the in-game mechanics provide a decent enough insight. Some of those are part of a cache of undiscovered bodies in systems with "real names". That's what struck me as so odd... the game is a year and a half old? Have people not explored Orion too much and I just stumbled upon a jackpot even though it's super easy to see these systems from the galmap (they are literally plastered all over the cluster from end to end)? Or maybe FDev wants us to notice something? [???]
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I wish they would mention stuff like that in the patch notes... would help to not spawn crazy theories. :x
If they did do that, it was recent at least.
But not all of them were conflicts either. Plenty of named systems not taking up V... Orionis coordinates and still vastly untagged. Ptolemy is one that comes to the top of my head. The system "Orion's Reach" too. They aren't on that list, but it's also extremely unlikely that EDSM has the entire Orion cluster mapped. Or maybe FDev reworked Orion a bit based on corrections and adding content? Remember this is in the middle of a huge permit wall...
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Totally agree.
The one I checked (MY Orionis) has definitely moved. The distances recorded prior to June 16 put it at the coordinates shown in EDSM (verified by my own trilateration code), but more recent distances don't match that and the old distances don't match its position in the galaxy map now.
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And again! Completely agree on the point of openness.
The reason why this thread reached #6, and why it will soon become #7, is because it's a proper forum to submit ideas, share your thinking, have it scrutinised and criticised and supported - and people share not for the glory of having their name in lights (although via Galnet we've been able to do exactly that and give credit where it's due) but because they recognise the value of two or more heads being better than one.
Plus, sharing with other like-minded people is more fun and rewarding than holding on to it and being protectionist about it all.
And, yes, it's not always perfect - sometimes people with the right answer (Morse discovery for example) don't get paid attention to immediately, but we all know here that you can't ultimately argue with facts - eventually if there is a way to prove what you're saying people will accept it, however sceptical they might initially have been. A good contributor doesn't let that put them off
So yeah: come here to share or keep it to yourself. Ironically, if you keep something completely to yourself and then come here with proof you'll get far more respect than teasing and acting all 'I know something you don't but I'm not saying yet'.
And amusingly, practically everyone who has done that in the past has been shown to 'know' precisely zilch.
But those were sattelites. Cosmos 1 two and three and four never left Earth's atmosphere..
or are you telling us that those are alien sattelites? It would be interesting...
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This one is also confirmed:
More images including GPSC: http://imgur.com/a/Mhiyf
The GPSC shot shows that this one actually has 12 spikes, so one is buried. And it shows up on the wave scanner like it should.
Scanning this one gave another ~75 kCr.
Is Space Texan back?
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