UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 6 - The Canonn
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Well. The Question is if we aint too Focused on Merope and the Barnacles itself.
Dissappearing Ships and even a Dissappearing Station are mentioned in the News.
Maybe it would make sense to Focus more on Searching these rather than to Focus on a Site under Military Control
On Merope itself the Shot down Anaconda would also be more Interesting to me than the Barnacles.
I wonder if it would be Possible to Scan the Shot Down Anaconda with an Cargo Scanner or even Break its Cargo Hatch.
Same for the Capital Ship. Maybe its got something Aboerd that might be Interesting to us.
And there is also the Question if there is other Ships which are Approaching the Capital Ship and which might be Carrying something Interesting.
Finally it would also make sense to use a Wake Scanner and Follow the Ships which are Visiting the Capital Ship.
Maybe they will lead us to another Interesting Place. Maybe they could give us an Idea on what the Capital Ship is actually doing there.
There is Tons of Clues and Options we could Follow Currently.
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If someone Forced an Escort or Alerted Enemy to Retreat and then Follow him
We might Find out where the Base of Operations is. And Maybe there we can find more Clues as well
Dissappearing Ships and even a Dissappearing Station are mentioned in the News.
Maybe it would make sense to Focus more on Searching these rather than to Focus on a Site under Military Control
On Merope itself the Shot down Anaconda would also be more Interesting to me than the Barnacles.
I wonder if it would be Possible to Scan the Shot Down Anaconda with an Cargo Scanner or even Break its Cargo Hatch.
Same for the Capital Ship. Maybe its got something Aboerd that might be Interesting to us.
And there is also the Question if there is other Ships which are Approaching the Capital Ship and which might be Carrying something Interesting.
Finally it would also make sense to use a Wake Scanner and Follow the Ships which are Visiting the Capital Ship.
Maybe they will lead us to another Interesting Place. Maybe they could give us an Idea on what the Capital Ship is actually doing there.
There is Tons of Clues and Options we could Follow Currently.
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If someone Forced an Escort or Alerted Enemy to Retreat and then Follow him
We might Find out where the Base of Operations is. And Maybe there we can find more Clues as well
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The thing is... we dont know what is happening. We don't know who is the bad one, who is the good one. We don't know anything at all.
We don't even know the full backstory of Elite - and that would be usefull.
We have barnacles, we have UA's, we have probes, and ... Merope. Why this place...
Everything is changing acording to what we are doing. We find something, something new is apearing. Right now we have found some piece of evidence about probes, but we cant find them...
If they are related...
Probe, UA, Barnacle.
Three things. The UA's are probably to guide us to Merope. So, something is happening at Merope. So we can asume that the main reason for their existence is to show it to us. But ... it was scanning our ships. And it was using morse code...
So... the theory that some kind of alien life - which was looking at as from shadows - want to show as the Merope is quite strong. Maybe the UA's were to catch our attention... but the ship scanning is still strange.
Right now i can think about two scenario.
One is that we are lured towards ... a trap. And that all this scanning was so some alien life form will be able in the future to catch our ships and change them into infected drones or something... the UA's are to catch our attention to places, in which our ships will get stolen from us.
You know, like plant-version of replicators from SG. Just think about the cap ship in the hands of alien asimilating plant-borg like race...
Then, second scenario is that the barnacles are good, the UA's were lookign for them - since meta-aloy is the only cure to the malfunctions caused by UA's, and now they found them. Federation knows about it and is trying to secure barnacles from evil aliens that are moving in our direction? UA's were trying to get info about our firepower so they would know everything about us? And are now markers toward barnacles?
And barnacles are a gift from someone who want to help us?
Both are just speculations, since we have no proof. We probably need to wait... i guess...
But i have this feeling, that we can still change what will happen, but we dont know what to do...
Only time will show, i guess. Too less data to figure something up...simply not enough - at least from my point of view.
It think it'd be better to thoroughly search the Pleiades. It's a lot closer to civilization than California and Witch Head, but results would be just as definitive. If Merope and Pleione are not outliers then there should be other systems in that nebula that have barnacles. If we can't find any barnacles in other systems in the Pleiades nebula then that would be quite strong evidence that Merope and Pleione are outliers. We could start with the most likely planets (since we only need one counterexample) and widen the search to other types of planet until we're satisfied. All it would require is a spreadsheet of which planets have been search for how long. And a lot of time collectively.
Like you I'm probably not going to volunteer though
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I saw some of the local chatter about UA being our salvation recently when on a kill a religious leader mission. I didn't see a UA but I was busy with the mission and not looking for one. I'll keep my eyes open for them in future.
I was on Discord chatting with the guys who found it. One of them bumped it when he entered the instance, hence the slight damage. A Canonn commander met up with them and joined the instance, he confrimed it wasn't degrading.
Mini_Watto said he bumped it (discussion is in chat_general on Discord). It wasn't decaying.
There is something wierd going on with those religious types. I dropped on a 'Encoded Emission' USS today. The type with a large section with a scannable black box.
There were three intact but burned ships there. One Sidewinder, one DBS and one fed fighter. The wierd thing was that they played religius sounding music from the empty cockpit.
The Sidewinder and the DBS also had 'Swiss flag symbols' inside the cockpit.
http://i.imgur.com/pbb6HOw.png?1
It was all quite peculiar.
I have a vid., but it needs editing and cmpression. It's 2.1GB
First Aid Kit
Like the fire extingisher
I agree with that, we were told to keep following the yelow crates clue. I might need to find who knows about them, what has been done etc.
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Just to give a little more info on this, it was a religious leader assassination mission given to me in a fairly unremarkable system (LTT 15574). The guy was a clipper in a wing of 7 around this artifact which was originally intact but I did accidentally damage it slightly, this was with my ship (bumping) as opposed to weaponry. I am trying to replicate this but have yet to be given any more religious leader missions. I posted about it on the Canonn discord and they then took over. I just wanted to get rid of it honestly, far too much responsibility for me to have something like a UA
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Ok so we are running out of time to figure this out before the next stage begins so I am going to try again to gather some assistance for testing of my seed theory. Before I am dismissed again, give the idea some thought.
For those who dont know, I believe that players are able to plant the barnacles in specific locations, rather than having to search and hope. I believe some pieces of significant evidence overlooked that point to this being true are;
Barnacles found near crashed ships carrying cargo
UA does not degrade on planet
UA transmits name of planet in Morse code when on planet.
Now I have tried a lot of different things over the last week all to no avail, and if anyone would like me to compile a list of the tests performed and specific details I will. However I just feel like I am missing a key to the whole process and I could really use some different perspectives to help solve the problem.
So far my best guess and last experiment performed on how to plant a barnacle is as follows;
1. Find UA and have it scan your ship, I have been doing this with 3 meta alloy in my hold.
2. Scoop up UA and take to planet
3. Leave and come back and barnacle is grown.
Obviously this hasn't worked or I would be here with a much different post. Some things that I want to try are maybe taking the UA to Merope first, to charge up the UA or something? Also I want to try having a UA on a planet and another UA with another commander at Merope, perhaps they need to link? The latter I tend to be skeptical about though as I think the process was designed to be able to be completed solo.
I have a good solid theory on what is going to happen next and the whole who/what/why of it all but I am not here to discuss any of that. I am here to try and figure out how to plant a barnacle. If you dont believe it to be possible that is fine, you domt need to help. But even if just one or two of you think that what I am saying makes even a little bit of sense then I believe cooperatively we can work it out.
For those who dont know, I believe that players are able to plant the barnacles in specific locations, rather than having to search and hope. I believe some pieces of significant evidence overlooked that point to this being true are;
Barnacles found near crashed ships carrying cargo
UA does not degrade on planet
UA transmits name of planet in Morse code when on planet.
Now I have tried a lot of different things over the last week all to no avail, and if anyone would like me to compile a list of the tests performed and specific details I will. However I just feel like I am missing a key to the whole process and I could really use some different perspectives to help solve the problem.
So far my best guess and last experiment performed on how to plant a barnacle is as follows;
1. Find UA and have it scan your ship, I have been doing this with 3 meta alloy in my hold.
2. Scoop up UA and take to planet
3. Leave and come back and barnacle is grown.
Obviously this hasn't worked or I would be here with a much different post. Some things that I want to try are maybe taking the UA to Merope first, to charge up the UA or something? Also I want to try having a UA on a planet and another UA with another commander at Merope, perhaps they need to link? The latter I tend to be skeptical about though as I think the process was designed to be able to be completed solo.
I have a good solid theory on what is going to happen next and the whole who/what/why of it all but I am not here to discuss any of that. I am here to try and figure out how to plant a barnacle. If you dont believe it to be possible that is fine, you domt need to help. But even if just one or two of you think that what I am saying makes even a little bit of sense then I believe cooperatively we can work it out.
In an attempt to help you reducing some of the working efforts:
- crashed ships found near barnacles.. who was first, the barnacle grow from the crashed cargo 1km away of the crash site? or the ship crashed when getting closer to the barnacle?
- NOTHING degrades on a planet, as far as I can tell.
- it transmits the location, wherever it is, a system while in space, a station name, or a planet name, as far as I know.
I hope this helps you!
Edit: what about aligning the star - planet - UA and kill it? so whatever is launched when the UA explodes hits the ground? or what about hitting a ship?
- crashed ships found near barnacles.. who was first, the barnacle grow from the crashed cargo 1km away of the crash site? or the ship crashed when getting closer to the barnacle?
- NOTHING degrades on a planet, as far as I can tell.
- it transmits the location, wherever it is, a system while in space, a station name, or a planet name, as far as I know.
I hope this helps you!
Edit: what about aligning the star - planet - UA and kill it? so whatever is launched when the UA explodes hits the ground? or what about hitting a ship?
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Awesome thankyou, exactly the sort of stuff im after. There are so many What-it's to try though that is the other reason I am here. I am only one Commander and this so many failed experiments has the tendency to burn a fella out :/
Edit: Also significant (imo) is the fact UA have been spawning much more quickly lately. Could be nothing but could be giving us one last chance to work it out?
I want to add though that I try not to kill the stuff I am doing experiments on so if that's the key then someone else will have to find it out.
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It is your theory, it is science!! sometimes you have to cross a line if you want to unveal the truth!
I was definitely a bit flippant saying the rewards are non existent. But they're ephemeral enough to only appeal to a very small subset of players, a subset that doesn't include me for reasons I've gone on about enough for one day.
That small subset isn't playing the game 'right or wrong' either. Point of my post was that the California, Witch head and Pleiades *sector* nebulae planets where barnacles are found have much more in common than the ones found inside the pleiades nebula (being merope and pleione), which suggests they are outliers to the norm conditions... otherwise mb's suggestion that the merope one ones were 'harder to find' make no sense in the context of before we knew anything about barnacles: it was literally ' land on a planet, look around'.
Apart from merope and pleione which both don't meet these conditions, all planets with barnacles have been found in stars outside the physical nebula, and with a 65-67% metal content. This could just be confirmation bias. But because of the vastness of the problem space and the 'rewards' filling such a small niche of players, the chances of disproving that bias are severely diminished.
Haha ok whilst I see your point I dont believe in every situation the end justify the means. Anyway, its only a game and we want to uncover a mystery lets not argue about personal ethics, we may as well start discussing politics
Edit: Post above me brought up a point I forgot to mention. The planet I have tried these tests on was Merope 2A, which doesn't actually fit the criteria for barnacles. Perhaps it needs to be done on a planet more suited (HMC, Temp, etc.)
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Haha ok whilst I see your point I dont believe in every situation the end justify the means. Anyway, its only a game and we want to uncover a mystery lets not argue about personal ethics, we may as well start discussing politics
two words: for science!
The thing that I found they have in common is that each nebula where barnacles have been reported found has a bright star that luminates the nebula when viewed from earth at least (I call them glow stars). They are;
Merope - Merope neb
Menkib - Cali neb
Rigel - Witchead neb
Maia - Maia neb
Edit: Sorry misread the question. You are asking about which star class the system they are found in is? I have heard all sorts personally I'm not sure if there is a common thread. Some stars that burn quite brightly destroy everything close to them, some forming types of stars spew out alot of stuff to things around it and some stars are better than others for supporting life. I would really be interested to see if there were a common thread to be found with which stars a barnacle prefers to be close too
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No menkib doesn't even have planets I dont think, so those stars are not necessarily where barnacles like to be under. But the do give the nebula where the barnacles are found luminosity plus lots of other goodness.
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