Try it with headphones. I'm 100% there's a voice in there.
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UAs, Barnacles & other mysteries Thread 7 - The Canonn
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Try it with headphones. I'm 100% there's a voice in there.
Before people get too caught up in hearing voices in the UP's, I suggest a little reading on a relevant topic: http://theness.com/roguesgallery/index.php/skepticism/audio-pareidolia/
Still making observations on the live barnacle. From what I gather so far, if we do need a meta alloy then harvesting them from the ripe seed pods seems safe... There is no reason to shoot a seed spike that has no meta alloy so I ask that from now on people try to just take the ones that are ready to let the others grow.
I still want to see if I can get an Artifact to interact with the ripe pods, and I am also curious what happens (if anything) if the seeds are not harvested. Will they fall and grow more? I may harvest one pod and leave the other to observe them both
I still want to see if I can get an Artifact to interact with the ripe pods, and I am also curious what happens (if anything) if the seeds are not harvested. Will they fall and grow more? I may harvest one pod and leave the other to observe them both
The problem isnt hearing the voice, its that we cant accurately know if the voice is the UP, or if its someones thrusters, ship sounds, or someone mouthbreathing the mic in the guy's discord. You just dont know yet.
It could be that the UP, which now stands for Unknown Peanut, by the way, records audio clips from comms chatter and it really does have human voices it plays back. But that seems WAY too obvious, given FD's usual obtuse puzzle logic.
Lets catch another, drop it in a solo instance, turn off the damned discord, and record the audio directly. And if someone blows a load of chaff in that one, too, they are getting a bounty.
We now know that the Peanuts are hard to hold onto due to various scooping issues, so we need to make the tests count!
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Yup, this. Based on those videos, every man and his dog was keen to get a look-in (and fair enough too) but there's a *lot* of stuff going on in the background. That "Singing" sound I'm almost certain comes from the ship, not the UP, but I can't back that claim up without seeing multiple clean recordings, which we simply don't have yet.
Not being critical of the videos, the initial UA videos were just as "dirty", but this is why "sciencing" these things took a long time. At the moment we're basing judgements off one-off things. This is fine, but no observations can be really claimed as "fact", such as the claims I made about it's "pointing"; it's literally based off one recording in one system. It could be any of the following at this stage:
- Pointing at an object in the current system
- Pointing in a random dirction, coincidentally in the general direction of Merope
- Actually pointing at Merope
- Actually pointing in the opposite direction of Merope.
That's a bunch of variables that need to be controlled just for *one* line of investigation... I'm sure there's dozens more to be had, but again, early days, limited recordings and no corroborated, independent verification. Speculation go-on for sure, but it's just speculation at this point, with no real replicable certainty.
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Test on live barnacle results.
Harvested x1 ripe seed spike
Logged out
Logged back in
Spike renewed with ripe seed pod containing meta alloy
Observations and thoughts;
Renewable source of meta alloy, taking only the ripe pods at a time.
Meta alloy when harvested is labeled as "mining fragment" so was wondering if collector limpets have been used to put meta alloy straight into refinery. If scooped by SRV into cargo hold becomes a regular canister as far as I can tell.
Further tests required, specifically Unknown Artifact possible interactions. Will continue to observe for now.
Harvested x1 ripe seed spike
Logged out
Logged back in
Spike renewed with ripe seed pod containing meta alloy
Observations and thoughts;
Renewable source of meta alloy, taking only the ripe pods at a time.
Meta alloy when harvested is labeled as "mining fragment" so was wondering if collector limpets have been used to put meta alloy straight into refinery. If scooped by SRV into cargo hold becomes a regular canister as far as I can tell.
Further tests required, specifically Unknown Artifact possible interactions. Will continue to observe for now.
Real quick, in my audio Discord was off and while my mic wasn't muted I never uttered a word. I understand where you're coming from however I think we would've noticed before this if it was ship sounds, or thrusters.
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I listened to the audio-only first, which definitely sounded like it was inside a cockpit but then I watched the video and saw it's an external camera.
That said, there's still way too much nearby activity to verify, IMO. Again though, great recording, understandable everyone's excited by the find
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The critical issue with your video is it's filmed from inside the cockpit, and there's lots of noise that goes on in there, even with all modules deactivated and zero movement. I can definitely hear what you're referring to, but the only way to be sure is to do another recording from the external camera.
I listened to the audio-only first, which definitely sounded like it was inside a cockpit but then I watched the video and saw it's an external camera.
That said, there's still way too much nearby activity to verify, IMO. Again though, great recording, understandable everyone's excited by the find
Alright, yeah I can understand that. Like you pointed out this crazy when we found out we'd gotten a hold of one.
Great work as usual Jmanis. Getting any pointing behaviour confirmed is priority #1, IMHO. If it's from the same source as the UAs there may well be a shell of floaters centered on whatever system it's pointing to. If it's something else, say a human-created device based on the UA, then there might not be a shell.
All barnacle intact barnacle sites are like you have described. Always the same two spikes MA. The UA does not interact, but it will make the Fireflies look much bigger.
Good observations. First hand knowledge is key.
I really want to see the UP colouration change as it gets closer to a significant POI, rather than point. That's just me wanting something cool to happen though.
My faction's just about to enter expansion again (currently pending), and we're at 55% in the system we expanded to previously, so nearly ready for war, but I really want to get out to Witch Head, California and Hind nebula, and see if I can't find *something* where UPs are freely available like UAs. I really don't think FD would've put in the "Anomaly Detected" type of USS *just* for the UAs... Encoded Emissions or Degraded Emissions (Threat 4) would've sufficed under any other circumstance, but a whole category would suggest (not prove though) that there's more than just UA drops to come out of those types.
I also want to check out the COL 69 sector for <reasons>.
BTW, probably a good time to say:
If someone finds a UP and wants to sell it, I'll pay out 20m credits worth of (your choice of goods worth more than 10,000cr per tonne, i.e palladium, imperial slaves, nerve agents etc) for it. There's a few caveats, but we can come to that if it happens
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I'm no scientist, but a few observations:
1. The two sections of the Unknown Probe appear to be mirrors of each other with one size being somewhat larger than the other.
2. Both sections have the same appearance as the 'head' section of the Unknown Artifact.
3. This 'Head' section has an 'ribbed' like structure on two sides that is reminiscent of a thorax:
4. The doubled head appearance with one side being larger then the other resembles cellular mitosis:
Sorry for jumping in folks, I've not followed the whole UA mega-thread(s) very closely and have refrained from posting anything in here until now for fear of exposing my ignorance. The latest developments with the Unknown Probes, however, have piqued my curiosity. The convoys talk about 'Orbital Tests' and I'm very curious how these things respond to being dropped during various phases of planetary landings: Orbital Cruise, exited from glide, etc.
1. The two sections of the Unknown Probe appear to be mirrors of each other with one size being somewhat larger than the other.
2. Both sections have the same appearance as the 'head' section of the Unknown Artifact.
3. This 'Head' section has an 'ribbed' like structure on two sides that is reminiscent of a thorax:
Sorry for jumping in folks, I've not followed the whole UA mega-thread(s) very closely and have refrained from posting anything in here until now for fear of exposing my ignorance. The latest developments with the Unknown Probes, however, have piqued my curiosity. The convoys talk about 'Orbital Tests' and I'm very curious how these things respond to being dropped during various phases of planetary landings: Orbital Cruise, exited from glide, etc.
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I really want to see the UP colouration change as it gets closer to a significant POI, rather than point. That's just me wanting something cool to happen though.
My faction's just about to enter expansion again (currently pending), and we're at 55% in the system we expanded to previously, so nearly ready for war, but I really want to get out to Witch Head, California and Hind nebula, and see if I can't find *something* where UPs are freely available like UAs. I really don't think FD would've put in the "Anomaly Detected" type of USS *just* for the UAs... Encoded Emissions or Degraded Emissions (Threat 4) would've sufficed under any other circumstance, but a whole category would suggest (not prove though) that there's more than just UA drops to come out of those types.
I also want to check out the COL 69 sector for <reasons>.
BTW, probably a good time to say:
If someone finds a UP and wants to sell it, I'll pay out 20m credits worth of (your choice of goods worth more than 10,000cr per tonne, i.e palladium, imperial slaves, nerve agents etc) for it. There's a few caveats, but we can come to that if it happens
I'm sure we will find UPs in several different kinds of USS. Freefloater -> Convoy -> Wreck is the natural order of events. All these can be found with an UA in them.
The question is weather the UPs apperar naturally at all? The NPC coms chatter, suggests it does.
As soon as the UAs were known to be causing stations to shutdown due to malfunctions players began weaponizing them as a means to sabotage the BGS. The fact that the first UP was found in ROSS 47, just light-years from Sol raises plenty of questions about their origin.
Someone needs to write up a good article for Galnet before Monday morning rolls around so our friend Ian Dingwall @Frontier can get this out to the player-base as soon as possible. This is huge news. I'd write something up myself by the Canonn has its own journalists who are much more familiar with this particular subject matter than I am.
Yes nothing out of the ordinary yet, all as normal. Studying them.firsthand has given me more insight into some things. I will continue to try to find an interaction I believe has been missed.All barnacle intact barnacle sites are like you have described. Always the same two spikes MA. The UA does not interact, but it will make the Fireflies look much bigger.
Good observations. First hand knowledge is key.
Say the UA is what makes a barnacle, to make meta alloys for (insert reason here).
Once a barnacle has been "planted" it is capable of growing and reproducing on its own. It becomes another thing entirely to the UA.
This process causes the UA to become a UP.
Barnacle can have 3 states, production (ripe), reproduction (multiple barnacles at a location), regeneration (destroyed).
If a ripe barnacle is left alone for a set period of time (lets say a week), it will reproduce.
If a ripe barnacle spikes are destroyed enough over a set period of time, it will enter a regeneration state (spikes empty and destroyed)
If a destroyed barnacle is left alone (as will always be the case as there is nothing to destroy) for a set period of time, it will enter a ripe state.
If a ripe barnacle is harvested smartly (only meta alloy spikes taken) for a set period of time, it will stay the same size and will not reproduce.
I wish to do more tests to figure out how the UA is triggered to deploy its payload, and also study the reproductive cycle of the barnacles. I have a couple more tests to try if I have time tonight, but I leave for a week of holiday tomorrow so may nit get everything done I want.
If Aldebaran moves in the sky it's time to find another galaxy to move to.
Aldebaran is definitely in game, I visited it last year to check for his tentacled greatness.
Ai Ai Cthulhu Ph'Tagen!
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BTW, probably a good time to say:
If someone finds a UP and wants to sell it, I'll pay out 20m credits worth of (your choice of goods worth more than 10,000cr per tonne, i.e palladium, imperial slaves, nerve agents etc) for it. There's a few caveats, but we can come to that if it happens
if I ever find one I'm more than happy to donate it. you guys probably have more experience on what to test with them and are always sharing whatever you know about them.
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There's an awful lot of speculation going on about UPs, with very little facts available from the video.
I observed what looked like:
two UA "heads" stuck together, one head appeared larger than the second
UP rotating as a single unit (similar rotation rate to UAs) around its long axis
Glowing, colour appeared to be orangeish
glow appears to vary in brightness periodically (similar period to UA)
emitting what appeared to be fireflies but they appeared to be orangeish instead of the blue colour of UA fireflies
Contextual knowledge: In many species there is a size difference between the two genders.
Hence my extremely tentative hypothesis is: the UP may be the result of two UAs "mating". The UA shell previously observed may therefore be the UAs of one gender searching for an UA of a second gender.
I look forward to seeing more evidence! Congratulations to everyone involved!
I observed what looked like:
two UA "heads" stuck together, one head appeared larger than the second
UP rotating as a single unit (similar rotation rate to UAs) around its long axis
Glowing, colour appeared to be orangeish
glow appears to vary in brightness periodically (similar period to UA)
emitting what appeared to be fireflies but they appeared to be orangeish instead of the blue colour of UA fireflies
Contextual knowledge: In many species there is a size difference between the two genders.
Hence my extremely tentative hypothesis is: the UP may be the result of two UAs "mating". The UA shell previously observed may therefore be the UAs of one gender searching for an UA of a second gender.
I look forward to seeing more evidence! Congratulations to everyone involved!
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