UAs, Barnacles & other mysteries Thread 7 - The Canonn

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We have already talked about it in the past, and I liked it at that time.
And I like it now: anyway I have no idea on how we could explore more this line of thinking...
I'm already seeing people singing at the UP, using the mic... :D

Just a quick question : Is there any kind of voice open channel ingame ? As it been tried to modulate a response and send it that way ?
 
Oh well, I'm not going to fight the tide of enthusiastic science.
I guess it's just me that thinks the grid search method is unreliable.
No, not at all, but as long as there are eyes on 5C, I dont care if they are also filling in a spreadsheet. Just as long as when they finish (ha), they dont claim it has been thoroughly checked
 
No, not at all, but as long as there are eyes on 5C, I dont care if they are also filling in a spreadsheet. Just as long as when they finish (ha), they dont claim it has been thoroughly checked

Indeed, given that I haven't managed to get out there recently, it'd be churlish of me to criticise those that have ;)
 
No, not at all, but as long as there are eyes on 5C, I dont care if they are also filling in a spreadsheet. Just as long as when they finish (ha), they dont claim it has been thoroughly checked

I hope none of us are laboring under the assumption that driving through a grid space on a planet constitutes anything close to a thorough search of that spot. I would think that anyone who actually does this and participates in this search quickly comes to the realization that even a single grid space is a colossal amount of territory. The purpose of the grid search is to spread the search out, not to rule anything out. A grid space marked as visited does not equal "nothing to see here". Our grid map includes numbers for the number of times a space has been visited. If we get to the point where we need to start revisiting spaces we've already been to, then we can isolate those spaces that are of the greatest interest and give them their own maps, divided into fractions of a coordinate. Then we might be able to work toward something closer to a thorough search. For now, this is the best way we can avoid wasting effort.
 
I've been working on a theory lately that the crashed nav beacons we keep finding are actually repurposed to be used as probes. That is, I believe the superpowers are using these things to gather intel - on each other, and on the unknown. I've found no less than 4 of these "probes" on the surface of Merope 5c in the last 2 hours and each one has produced an Imperial intel package. We know the Feds sent a cruiser (at least one) to Merope, a typical fed response to something they are afraid of or don't understand, while the Empire has been strangely quiet and uninvolved. Perhaps they are doing their own thing - crashing probes into Merope 5c in an attempt to understand the mystery. The Alliance hasn't gotten directly involved yet, but maybe that's just because they are doing the typical Alliance thing and letting their legions of independent pilots take care of it for them.

How about the rest of you on Merope 5c? You've no doubt found at least one of these nav beacon/probes. Are you getting Empire packages from them too?
 
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I hope none of us are laboring under the assumption that driving through a grid space on a planet constitutes anything close to a thorough search of that spot. I would think that anyone who actually does this and participates in this search quickly comes to the realization that even a single grid space is a colossal amount of territory. The purpose of the grid search is to spread the search out, not to rule anything out. A grid space marked as visited does not equal "nothing to see here". Our grid map includes numbers for the number of times a space has been visited. If we get to the point where we need to start revisiting spaces we've already been to, then we can isolate those spaces that are of the greatest interest and give them their own maps, divided into fractions of a coordinate. Then we might be able to work toward something closer to a thorough search. For now, this is the best way we can avoid wasting effort.

I completely agree with this [yesnod]

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A possible mechanism why UA's point to certain direction in space :rolleyes: So UAs have Barium-144 and/or Radium-244 in them :p Just joking here :D
 
I've been working on a theory lately that the crashed nav beacons we keep finding are actually repurposed to be used as probes. That is, I believe the superpowers are using these things to gather intel - on each other, and on the unknown. I've found no less than 4 of these "probes" on the surface of Merope 5c in the last 2 hours and each one has produced an Imperial intel package. We know the Feds sent a cruiser (at least one) to Merope, a typical fed response to something they are afraid of or don't understand, while the Empire has been strangely quiet and uninvolved. Perhaps they are doing their own thing - crashing probes into Merope 5c in an attempt to understand the mystery. The Alliance hasn't gotten directly involved yet, but maybe that's just because they are doing the typical Alliance thing and letting their legions of independent pilots take care of it for them.

How about the rest of you on Merope 5c? You've no doubt found at least one of these nav beacon/probes. Are you getting Empire packages from them too?
Last night the one crashed nav beacon I found had an Alliance intel data package. The Alliance also have a base closer to the Pleiades than any of the other superpowers, now, thanks to their new listening post - but they seem to be watching rather than acting. I agree that the Empire's total silence on the whole UA matter seems very strange... there have been comments from the Feds; the Alliance have their new outpost: what is the Empire up to? (They are always up to something...)
 
If we had precision tools at our disposal to be able to coordinate a search of a planet's surface then that would be fantastic.

But the reality is, we don't - as has been said, grid searching barely covers anything like enough ground, and even if it did, the level of concentration required, I'd suggest, would probably necessitate at least 3 pilots covering the same area to mitigate the possibility that people miss things.

And we can't just focus on whole number grids - we're dealing with decimal point long and lats - so we'd need probably a resolution of 36000x36000 (that's 1.2bn cells) to adequately track so-called 'searched' locations.

If we had a fog of war on the planetary map (i.e. parts revealed showing where you've been, under a height of, say, 2km) it might be easier I guess - because at least then we'd all see the parts of a planet we'd never been to before.

I'd suggest we just need lots of eyes there, skimming around, driving and flying and just taking time to pay attention to what's down there. In the same way that somebody effectively stumbled across the first barnacle there (someone who wasn't even looking for it!), I think it's realistically our best shot at finding something new.



I have to say, though, I'm increasingly becoming suspicious that the UP pointing to 5C is less because there's something new down there that we haven't seen yet, but because there's something we already know about which has a new angle we haven't yet been able to verify.

So, for example, scanning a barnacle with a UP on board to see if the data retrieved is corrupted or not.
Or perhaps there's something in the skies around 5C we haven't found yet.

Amusingly part of the issue is the supply of UPs - exactly where we were at roughly this time last year! I can't help but laugh; but not in a cynical way.
 
Update on my status so far: I've been driving for the past 4 hours now (something like that) and all I've came across so far is a load, and I mean LOAD, of escape pods, my Anaconda must be holding about 30 or 40 of the damn things right now. I'm gunna pack up for the night and keep scouting tomorrow. Good luck Commanders!

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to ARelientOwl again.
 
I don't know, but I can't help thinking back to The Silent Song Of The Spheres

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This could be relevant. The 'Harmony of the Spheres' has a connection to the Pleiades, where each of the seven sisters relates to a string of Herme's lyre. The Harmony of the Spheres is said to be source of all creation - the foundation of cosmic order and time.

I'm wary of this line of thinking, but it seems to fit the Comms chatter:

  • "Come with me, brothers and sisters. The artefacts are the key to salvation."
  • "Listen to their song. Feel it. Absorb it. We will transcend this crude flesh and become one with the universe."
  • "There are no aliens! The artefacts were bequeathed to us by a higher power so we could transcend this mundane existence."

I am beginning to wonder if the UA mystery has stronger links to Halsey and her Architects of Creation...?

I really love this theory and I think it needs to be discussed further !

It makes a lot of sense if you think about all the Scifi Films and Series we've been watching. There is always questions of both science and faith. [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]Remember Batttlestar Gallactica with it's President becoming ill and having visions about the gods ? :D [/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]The Canonn is dedicated to science but maybe we need another organisation dedicated to cosmology and archaeology. [/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]I think we need to look for clues left by ancient civilizations : [/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]- Soontill Relics need another look; Unknown origin... etc http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Soontill_Relics[/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]- Ruins on worlds[/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]- Any religious faction also needs investigating (local articles in stations etc)[/FONT]
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Last night the one crashed nav beacon I found had an Alliance intel data package. The Alliance also have a base closer to the Pleiades than any of the other superpowers, now, thanks to their new listening post - but they seem to be watching rather than acting. I agree that the Empire's total silence on the whole UA matter seems very strange... there have been comments from the Feds; the Alliance have their new outpost: what is the Empire up to? (They are always up to something...)

It could be then that I just had a run of Empire data packages. Though I'm not sure I'd chalk that entirely up to luck either. I've been driving in one direction since I landed, so its possible all the Empire probes landed in the same general area - maybe because they know more than we do. Maybe, in fact, the Emperor knows more than anyone else about these things and is far more involved in this mystery than anyone suspects. I've always suspected there was more to her than meets the eye. In any case, the probe theory does explain alot about why these things seem to be in places where they shouldn't be.
 
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I've been working on a theory lately that the crashed nav beacons we keep finding are actually repurposed to be used as probes. That is, I believe the superpowers are using these things to gather intel - on each other, and on the unknown. I've found no less than 4 of these "probes" on the surface of Merope 5c in the last 2 hours and each one has produced an Imperial intel package. We know the Feds sent a cruiser (at least one) to Merope, a typical fed response to something they are afraid of or don't understand, while the Empire has been strangely quiet and uninvolved. Perhaps they are doing their own thing - crashing probes into Merope 5c in an attempt to understand the mystery. The Alliance hasn't gotten directly involved yet, but maybe that's just because they are doing the typical Alliance thing and letting their legions of independent pilots take care of it for them.

How about the rest of you on Merope 5c? You've no doubt found at least one of these nav beacon/probes. Are you getting Empire packages from them too?

I've found 2 in an hour last night. Both were Alliance package.
 
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