It wont be long before ideology rears its ugly head and then all hell will break loose, on both sides you will have the fanatics that all think they are right and the other side will have to be destroyed to prove that they were right. All said and done if there is nobody left to see your point did you really win anything?
General / Off-Topic Third incident in two weeks in Germany
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Paranoia?
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Looks like some more terrorist attacks, and amok runs are necessary for Germany, to take it seriously. I don't worry about it. They will keep happening, until you do!
Yes it is an obvious fact. In France the politics have already warned that it is a war for 20 years. The islamists play on the duration, intergenerational. This is why, some here have not understood anything yet and show a disconcerting naivety. They have not realized yet that this problem concerns especially their children and the children of their children. The finality is that Islam must reign on the earth and if it must to take a century, it's not a problem for the islamists. But some people do not see beyond the tip of their nose and their little person
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verminstar
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He's baiting you...stop reacting to it
And by "The politics" you mean the National Front, right?
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I'd like to add a little titbit about the "real refugees" bit. There is a lot of complaints about "economic migrants", latest from Verminstar. Should the Irish (and Finnish) economic migrants have been turned back by the USA during the great potato blight famines? All those times when Europeans have travelled abroad to find a better life, was that an awful thing? If it wan't, why is it awful now if a Syrian or Qraqi person comes to Europe in search of work and security?
Agreed. So here is my pennies worth....
I live in the UK. There are many muslims living here and have done so peacefully for a very long time. These, I would call moderates and most where born here and have grown
up in a modern western society because the UK is a modern western society.
However, refugees who have come to the UK recently from Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan etc... have had the biggest culture shock of their lives. They have no idea how to conduct themselves
because they are used to being ruled by brutal dictators who's laws come from the teachings of Islam. And that is where the problem lies. They come from a land where other religions are outlawed. To them, Islam is the only religion and anyone who tries to attack it is considered an infidel and is condemned to death. Their version of Islam is completely incompatible with modern day western society. And I am not just talking about the terrorists. Remember the recent boat crossings where half of one boat contained Muslims and the other half Christians? Well, if you recall, the Muslims threw all of the Christians overboard who then drowned. The culprits were not terrorists, these were just homeless Muslim refugees. It just shows you how these Muslim refugees have no empathy towards other people of other faiths.
Its easy to condemn these people for what they did but there should have been a transition period for all these refugees so that they could educated about western society and to learn to live by its rules.
If you think about it, the problem is not Muslims. The problem is Islam and the sooner it is erased from our society the better.
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There was indeed every day on the planet earth during the second World War, more deaths, from heart attacks, traffic accidents, cancer, the natural death, than victims who died under the bullets of the enemy
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Minonian
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And until this realization, all words are useless. And right now, i feel like i said and done everything what i can, with no use.
Yeah, once Christianity tough in the same way, and so as all other religions. And all of them did it in the name of peace. Same dumbness as the R right do. They think if there are one race than everything going to be fine. Or the dictatorships, they think if there are complete order, than everything going to be fine.
And take a look all of them! Where its leaded? What they reached? Nothing! All of these dreams are crushed and grounded to dust.
We always find other reasons to bathe in each others blood, we always think there are only one more problem to resolve and we have the perfect whatever what we want? This is just stupid.
Yes and the goal is not the quantity of the dead. The goal is to hit with psychological precision to take the power. For example in France, by trying to destroy the national unity between the communities by the divisions. The terrorism, the revolutions do not bet on the quantity of victims, they bet on the collapse of a system
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Minonian
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Correct they are not just hitting blindly they are trying to hit where it hurts the most. And this is why a serious mistake to simply say there are only a few deaths its non significant!
They were mentioned earlier Israel learned to live under terrorist attacks. I don't know what you say, but i don't really want to live in a world where even the playground must be blast resistant.
So much about to live under constant terrorism.
They were mentioned earlier Israel learned to live under terrorist attacks. I don't know what you say, but i don't really want to live in a world where even the playground must be blast resistant.
So much about to live under constant terrorism.
Yes it is a strong probability. But it does not prevent that there are far too many immigrants in Europe for many of the others reason than the terrorism
Minonian
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Terrorism is comes with the immigrants too!
Edit; It does not matter. They will understand when they ready to hear the truth, until than even a ticking bomb right before their eyes is useless. And for that, a lot of things are necessary. They must be ready to hear the whisper of the truth. The time must be right, the place must be right. They must be open them selfes to the truth.
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And well go to tell these beautiful words to 130 deaths of Paris and to 84 deaths of Nice. And their hundreds persons wounded very seriously. Not to mention Charlie Hebdo, Mohamed Mehra, Kaled Kelkal (1995, the bombs in metro in Paris), Amedy Coulibaly and all the others. Go tell all the victims that it is a real minimal impact. You are unconscious
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This thread makes me sad.
Closing down immigration and/or asylum claims will do nothing to reduce the threat from terror. Nothing.
We live in an age where people can be radicalised over the Internet (and not just in a Islamalic fundamentalist sense) and a more oppressive state only increases the chances of that happening (in my opinion).
Closing down immigration and/or asylum claims will do nothing to reduce the threat from terror. Nothing.
We live in an age where people can be radicalised over the Internet (and not just in a Islamalic fundamentalist sense) and a more oppressive state only increases the chances of that happening (in my opinion).
Sure Donald.
You are right
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Not at all. These words of Sarkozy, Manuel Valls, Hollande and generally the two traditional political parties
Minonian
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If this was an attempt of a humor i suggest to try harder. Especially in the light of the recent bomber migrant status.
Do you say the same to the victims of Breivik and other right wing nutters who think they are waging a culture war against Islam and that's why their actions are justified? You are spreading the message that has lead to mass shootings, arson attacks, stabbings and so forth. How is your message of fear and hate any better? If Islam is responsible for the "islamic terrorists" the the "anti immigration" islamophobic rabble rousers and those repeating their message are responsible for Breivik and his kind.
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He did not said anything like this. For my part i say neither of the extremes are justified and both must be dealt with it.
Furthermore, to say out someone is spreading fear and hate, by using terrorism is not fear mongering, especially not if he says it must be stopped.
@ patric! For the last time, walk out of this debate you just getting burned to crisps if you let them, i can hold out, but even to me is seemingly pointless. But you can't!
Nope I am serious.
You must be Donald Trump.
I dont think in light of your recent posts anyone could deny that
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