My god... IT'S FULL OF OCTAGONS
UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn
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My god... IT'S FULL OF OCTAGONS
I think its worth considering this is not necessarily a planetary map in the hidden message.
Considering that these probes "point" to Merope, its worth considering that the --|/first step is actually saying "go to this point in the galaxy" (i..e merope)
It then gets more interesting to think about the meaning of the other symbols in terms of this "go to this star" messageIn my mind -||/3 is totally do a discovery scan, but -|-/2 and |--/4 remain a mystery to me.
Just thinking out-loud and repsonding to my own idea....
1 - Go to Merope
2 - Traverse area around Merope (5 square-radius? Perhaps 5yr radius? 5 "galaxy map squares"?)
3 - Discovery Scan around that radius
4 - Something
Perhaps something emerges/launches or becomes obvious.A lot of work to scan around a 5 ly radius but guessing that FD dont want this to be something just one person can do on their own but need a community effort to complete.
So I have been reading lots ideas on this and I feel like many are getting way too complicated. So I started thinking about the simplest way to interpret the center image in the context of the UAs and UPs we've found.
Here is my reasoning (borrows a lot from other CMRDs)
1. First we need to decide what the 'sphere' is in the center of the image. We're in space. Space is filled with spherical objects called 'stars' and 'planets' and 'moons'. Let's assume it's not something complicated like 'a sphere of stars in the galaxy'. Let's just assume it's a planet or moon (we can throw out star as it seem unlikely you can do anything close to the surface of a star)
2. If we decide it's a planet/moon then the rest really do look like instructions. It's clearly divided into four separate quadrants and each of those separate quadrants have a number sequence that we have worked out is 2 3 4 1 (reading from left to right). So each quadrant is telling us about what we need to do on this planet/moon.
3. The first quadrant has the approx 138 degree line. This is the axis tilt of 5C. UPs point to 5C. I think the UPs are telling us that "look, here is a signal and a 'key' or sorts that makes sense if you look at a planet with an axis tilt of about 138 degrees, just like 5C does!". The first quadrant is telling us the 'type' of planet to look at, not just any specific planet - it has to have an axis tilt of about 138 degrees.
4. The second quadrant is a 90 arc. I think this is just saying that "once you find a planet of axis tilt 138 degrees, fly around it!". Maybe 'orbit' around it. It only goes 90 degrees because it's one quadrant of the message, so that's all the room the instruction has.
5. The third quadrant is simply telling us to 'scan as we fly' - those two curved lines indicated a wave emanating from a source - our scanners. And since we know UPs react to our scanners, it's not incomprehensible to belive that they are telling us to use them somewhere else.
6. The fourth quadrant, I think, is a signal coming from the planet we are flying around when our scanners get in range of something. Maybe we'll recognize it because it will be two beams of light? Or some other things that simply rises from the planets surface. Basically this quadrant is telling us what to look for.
So, to recap, we need to find planets of about 138 degree tilt in and around Merope and surrounds, fly down to the surface (probably out of orbital cruise and into the planet's instance) and use ADS to ping the planet and wait for some visual response.
So I don't know, but that is about the most simple interpretation of the image I can come up with.
Here is my reasoning (borrows a lot from other CMRDs)
1. First we need to decide what the 'sphere' is in the center of the image. We're in space. Space is filled with spherical objects called 'stars' and 'planets' and 'moons'. Let's assume it's not something complicated like 'a sphere of stars in the galaxy'. Let's just assume it's a planet or moon (we can throw out star as it seem unlikely you can do anything close to the surface of a star)
2. If we decide it's a planet/moon then the rest really do look like instructions. It's clearly divided into four separate quadrants and each of those separate quadrants have a number sequence that we have worked out is 2 3 4 1 (reading from left to right). So each quadrant is telling us about what we need to do on this planet/moon.
3. The first quadrant has the approx 138 degree line. This is the axis tilt of 5C. UPs point to 5C. I think the UPs are telling us that "look, here is a signal and a 'key' or sorts that makes sense if you look at a planet with an axis tilt of about 138 degrees, just like 5C does!". The first quadrant is telling us the 'type' of planet to look at, not just any specific planet - it has to have an axis tilt of about 138 degrees.
4. The second quadrant is a 90 arc. I think this is just saying that "once you find a planet of axis tilt 138 degrees, fly around it!". Maybe 'orbit' around it. It only goes 90 degrees because it's one quadrant of the message, so that's all the room the instruction has.
5. The third quadrant is simply telling us to 'scan as we fly' - those two curved lines indicated a wave emanating from a source - our scanners. And since we know UPs react to our scanners, it's not incomprehensible to belive that they are telling us to use them somewhere else.
6. The fourth quadrant, I think, is a signal coming from the planet we are flying around when our scanners get in range of something. Maybe we'll recognize it because it will be two beams of light? Or some other things that simply rises from the planets surface. Basically this quadrant is telling us what to look for.
So, to recap, we need to find planets of about 138 degree tilt in and around Merope and surrounds, fly down to the surface (probably out of orbital cruise and into the planet's instance) and use ADS to ping the planet and wait for some visual response.
So I don't know, but that is about the most simple interpretation of the image I can come up with.
Definitely the origin. It is pointing back to broadcast back to the barnacles its findings. The theory that MB said we needed to test .. not sure which one he meant. Whether the UA was more advanced or whether the image is not merope...
Summary of new clues from MB
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The message has a specific purpose, and a very different one to the UA.
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The pointing is deliberate, but also for a different reason to the UA.
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The transmission from the UA is its purpose.
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The UP has a different purpose.
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That's a testable theory.
(So that means the information in the UP about the planet in the sound is NOT merope it is from a nearby planet probably in the UA range. Its just the wording the U P is the PROBE which is something you'd think would be the thing looking since its a probe.. the artifact who knows what it is. Maybe it is the more advanced of the 2?)
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So probably there is a crashed ship and it has a connection to UAs, UPs and barnacles.
If so, what would I do if I crashed my ship and had the tech and resources as an advanced lifeform?
If I had access to genetic engineering (confirmed(?) by Mr. Braben), first I'd send out "probes" (UA) to find suitable planets (Merope 5C?) to find the resources needed to repair my ship and to see if there's any alien (or other) activity (UA scans).
Most probably I'd need precios metals and rare materials (in a nebula?) so I'd send an engineered lifeform (barnacles) to extract these from the planet found.
In the meantime, I'd send probes (UP) to find help and send my location or try to establish communication.
Unfortunately this won't help in finding a solution to all the alien secrets but we are safe to say that the aliens are intelligent so there must be a logic in all this.
Also I ran through all pages since yesterday and I'm sorry if this has been posted (most probably) but it's impossible to keep up with the thread.
If so, what would I do if I crashed my ship and had the tech and resources as an advanced lifeform?
If I had access to genetic engineering (confirmed(?) by Mr. Braben), first I'd send out "probes" (UA) to find suitable planets (Merope 5C?) to find the resources needed to repair my ship and to see if there's any alien (or other) activity (UA scans).
Most probably I'd need precios metals and rare materials (in a nebula?) so I'd send an engineered lifeform (barnacles) to extract these from the planet found.
In the meantime, I'd send probes (UP) to find help and send my location or try to establish communication.
Unfortunately this won't help in finding a solution to all the alien secrets but we are safe to say that the aliens are intelligent so there must be a logic in all this.
Also I ran through all pages since yesterday and I'm sorry if this has been posted (most probably) but it's impossible to keep up with the thread.
Total protonic inversion.
Ok, not sure if this has been considered (probably has), but players tend to look at these things from the perspective of "oh, this is for me!"
But as we know, the UA isn't for us, its for the aliens, gathering intel.
Why are people looking at this from the perspective of a key for us... and if so, why do people think its a good idea to decrypt it!
Maybe its something for the aliens. So stop reading the image from a human centric point of view. Look at it from the alien point of view. Its perhaps not pointing to somewhere, but from somewhere.
Just throwing this out there, because i'm too dumb to actually solve this myself.
But as we know, the UA isn't for us, its for the aliens, gathering intel.
Why are people looking at this from the perspective of a key for us... and if so, why do people think its a good idea to decrypt it!
Maybe its something for the aliens. So stop reading the image from a human centric point of view. Look at it from the alien point of view. Its perhaps not pointing to somewhere, but from somewhere.
Just throwing this out there, because i'm too dumb to actually solve this myself.
Been lurking for quite some time, but never felt the need to contribute. I saw nothing on the first page, so has anyone had a UP on the surface of Merope 5C to see if it points at a specific part of the planet, or does it just point at the center?
Apart from stupidity... I'm sure there'll never be a limit on that, real or imagined.
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It points to the center, from what I understand.
EDIT: For my part, I will be investigating the massive crater. It's such a distinct feature of 5c that I am inclined to think it has a role to play. It is utterly massive and will take some few days for me to search thoroughly.
IRL; I've my kids tonight (divorced, so that is just how it works) but intend to be on this evening EST. If I find anything I will report it to you.
My thoughts; We need more probes, we need some people scouring 5C (the barnacle cluster in the -26 ... -28 line is a good POI as well). Also, has anyone checked out the asteroid field around Merope 5? If I wanted to hide something, that'd be the place to hide it.
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Forgive me if I'm missing something here but why do MB's clues mean it is not Merope?
MB only said the pointing behaviour of the UP was for a different reason from why/where the UA pointed.
Nothing there confirms that the signal is unrelated to 5c. Fact is we still have NO proof of what the signal is at all.
Indeed - the eavesdropper idea. We're not meant to know what's being said here: whoever made the artefacts or the probes doesn't expect these transmissions to be intercepted.
It's easy for us to assume that, because we cracked the morse, it must have been for us all along. But that's not proof, it's just correlation.
Lol, "i wont say anything" but let me say some things...
Would the UP's be "pods" sent out from the UA? From those little tubes? They gain mass as they collect gasses and expand? Then turn into UP's? They are launched from their mother UA's and report back to the nearest barnacles? Most other barnacles are further away?
We are in a glut of ideas and a famine of information, unfortunately. It's a good idea to decrypt it because we can. Maybe. Knowledge is power, power = energy, energy = mass x C². Therefore a book shop is a learned black hole.
Even it's it's pointing, unless you have any knowledge of what it's pointing at or why, you don't really know if it's travelling.
I couldn't see this guy's messages until you quoted him because I blocked him. I blocked him for doing this exact thing last time with the Barnacle hunt. He ended up finding nothing interesting then, he won't now xD
That is why I asked for a clarification. I asked 3 different questions/statemtns and I wanted to know which one was the testable theory?
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If you were making a set of instructions that were simple to follow, why would you go Bottom Right, Top Left, Top Right, Bottom Left?
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