UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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Two thoughts this morning:
  1. The location from the UP diagram: I am going to test a possibility that this might be referring to a system in/near the Orion Nebula. This is based on my reading the central figure as referring to the Orion Nebula as the upper-left arc, the diagonal line being the line of stars heading away from it towards Sol, the upper-right feature being the Running Man Nebula and the two lower-left lines pointing to the Magellanic Clouds. There are many systems in this region named after Physicists, Astronomers and Mathematicians. I am going to assume that the left-hand part of the UP diagram is a system map highlighting the second planet and that the right-hand part of the UP diagram is telling us to use a discovery scanner close to it. I logged off in the Laplace system last night ready to search for Barnacles on either A6 or A7 today but it is probably an evening's work, or less, to stop by every landable second planet in these renamed systems and sound the discovery scanner within 5ls. My apologies in advance if this triggers an alien invasion and biscuits are forever outlawed in the bubble afterwards. Probably nothing will happen, though. If we did find the 'location' as intended, what next? Do we get an inbox message from a lonely hermit asking us to bring cookies? My Keelback is unarmed, so I hope they are friendly; in a non-face-hugging, brain-sucking way.
  2. If the purpose of the UA was its message, why was it so important for us to see a wireframe image of our own ships? Is it just meant to be something to get our attention to say 'we can see you'? Suppose we had never realised that UAs transmitted Morse: what would we have failed to discover as a result? I don't see that we would be doing anything different or that we have learned anything from it, other than that they use Morse (a human language) to tell us 'we can see you'. This implies a human origin for the UAs (but that's still just speculation). It does not itself give a clue to what the purpose of the UPs is, other than that they all point to Merope, which has been scoured to smithereens with no sign of an alien surface outpost, even though small objects like Barnacles have been discovered. It bugs me that the UAs and UPs have this pointing mechanism but we still have no idea what's so special about the Merope system or 5c in particular, despite huge investments of time by a large number of commanders.
 
Seriously...

Does anyone know of an online tool for elite where I can find stars at a particular distance from Merope? (197.3LY)

Please?

Well using eddb.io... there isn't one :)


System Allegiance Population Powerplay Distance ly
Synuefai PC-T b37-2 0 ? ? - 197.29 ly
Hyades Sector GB-X c1-11 0 ? ? - 197.31 ly
Hyades Sector BR-U b3-4 0 ? ? - 197.31 ly
Synuefe PO-F b31-1 0 ? ? - 197.31 ly
 
Okay, I tried my best to use the diagram to produce coordinates using the following hypothesis :

  • UA found something, UP is investigating it and reporting the position to merope.
  • Region of interest is in the 135-150 lyr range of the UA shell (found it, stoped expansion)
  • The UP give angles. UR quadrant is a pictogram for latitude, UL is pictogram for longitude. Special thx to however suggested it.
  • Coordinate system is galactic with merope as the origin, zero on sagitarius, positive angles (ccw). Special thx to Formidine rift stuff for that.

Assuming all this, we have one latitude (-50°~) and two longitude (120° and 150°~). I computed coord from Merope PoV then corrected for Sol.

having two longitudes bothers me, but I cannot find any clever explaination beyond designating an area rather than a precise point. Tables are for long1(120) and long2(150) respectively

Lyr
135.0
140
145
150
X (sol)
-196
-200
-204
-208
Z (sol)
-253
-257
-261
-265
Y (sol)
-408
-411
-413
-416
Lyr
135.0
140
145
150
X (sol)
-146
-149
-151
-154
Z (sol)
-253
-257
-261
-265
Y (sol)
-457
-462
-466
-470

If what we have is indeed coordinate to a region/system, there are other coord systems such as equatorial and ecliptic
that could be considered. However, since these would be tied to Merope 5c, converting them to Elite coordinates is going
to be very hard and their zero longitude is not well defined. For these reasons it did not bother with them.

Then I might have misinterpreted the angles and the pictograms and finally maybe we are not even facing angles.

On the + side, it is a testable idea given that the area is rather well defined.
 
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if i remember clearly Elephant trunk nebula has a lot of systems....


btw i was near it few days ago and don't visit it :(
 
Hello all! I'm new to the idea of the probes/artifacts and the thread in general. I have had a flick through a few comments but am not all that far up on the progress. I have seen some people mention that they think there is something to do with rotation. I had a thought that the diagrams look like the front of a coriolis starport. The diagram at the bottom looks kind of like the mail slot.
http://imgur.com/qrTEwu2
Looking forward to catching up on the work done here. Tin foil is at the ready
 
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Aloha!

Is there any tool on the online Galmaps where I can find all stars within a certain range? Im looking for a star EXACTLY 193.3 LY from Merope. Doing it in the game Galmap is going to take forever...

You should be able to run an EDSM query, but I'm no expert-could ask on the EDSM thread
 
Yep, dynamicbob reported the rumour couple of pages back. No evidence.
may be a troll

Hahaha. Dynamicbob is somebody I have blocked because this is literally all he does. He then gets very 'holier than thou' if you press him for more. I dislike the guy's attitude towards this and have found him to be nothing but a troll. He was the same throughout the Barnacle hunt and is being the same again now. I wouldn't trust his words.
 
New Barnacles Discovered

Cmdr Kerevan here...

Sorry this is not related to UP mystery and spectrograms... but i discovered barnacles on new planets in California Sector LC-V C2-10 and California Sector DL-Y D4.

California Sector LC-V C2-10 A4 ( -9.7187, 138.7988)

California Sector DL-Y D4 C 2 ( -1.4133, -141.7319)

California Sector DL-Y D4 C 4 ( -11.8843, 54.5331)

now moving to California Sector DL-Y D4 C 5

Just reporting this new findings o7

Good luck with UP mystery everyone!
 
Is it just me or is flying around 5C all screwy when it comes to bearings.

fairly sure on earth if I travel at 0 I'm going north and my latitude increases. 5C seems backwards

Ever since 2.1 dropped the compass has been reversed. So 180 is north, 270 is east, 0 is south and 90 is west.

Surprised there isn't a new vacancy...
 
With regards to the Free floating UP reported in the elephant trunk nebula, i just spent about 10 mins going though this persons posts on reddit. And all of his others posts look fine. no random wind ups, not trolling or baiting i think this may well be legit.
 
Cmdr Kerevan here...

Sorry this is not related to UP mystery and spectrograms... but i discovered barnacles on new planets in California Sector LC-V C2-10 and California Sector DL-Y D4.

California Sector LC-V C2-10 A4 ( -9.7187, 138.7988)

California Sector DL-Y D4 C 2 ( -1.4133, -141.7319)

California Sector DL-Y D4 C 4 ( -11.8843, 54.5331)

now moving to California Sector DL-Y D4 C 5

Just reporting this new findings o7

Good luck with UP mystery everyone!

Good job CMDR!
Destroyed spikes when they had never been discovered (by us) yet, interesting...
 
Just some nice Piccys from around the UA bubble as a refresher.

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ZaDAN6y.jpg

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Umm...not sure of its significance, or not, but I just read an interesting post on the EDC page on facebook, which has (correctly) mentioned that the Almagest system has been renamed to Wredguia XD-K D8-78....and the station that was in the system has now disappeared completely.
You can still search the GalMap for almagest, but it brings you to this renamed system.
Oh, and the name of the 'missing' station?
Sirius Reach.

Tinfoil set to maximum!
 
Aloha!

Is there any tool on the online Galmaps where I can find all stars within a certain range? Im looking for a star EXACTLY 193.3 LY from Merope. Doing it in the game Galmap is going to take forever...

IDK what you are up too, but I liked your previous approaches.
EDDB tells me Candhari is 193.33ly from merope
 
So, being me that kind of "OK, I'll do it myself" person, I've installed FL Studio 12, I've learned the basic in 5 minutes, and decided to reproduce the little nice song someone presumed to find in the glyphs on the left side of the spectrogram. So I've chosen a couple of the best images we have, and cut just that glyphs.
I did not edit the image in any way: you'll see it stretched only because the Bitmap to Sound Plugin stretches it automatically, to fit the area.

Well, that CMDR was not trolling us, at least.
You listen, you decide. Good night.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9pXphBNCXo
Haven't you just reversed the process of producing the spectrogram from the sound? i.e. Isn't this just the sound that the UP normally makes (possibly slowed down)?
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If there is a message here, is the information in the sound or the image produced from the sound? Given that there is clearly a message in the image, I'm inclined to think that this applies to the left and right hand sides of that image as well as the centre section but if someone discovers something by listening to the tune, that would be cool, too. (Although sadly it would rule me out of future investigations, just like the UA Morse, which I've never been able to perceive).
 
With regards to the Free floating UP reported in the elephant trunk nebula, i just spent about 10 mins going though this persons posts on reddit. And all of his others posts look fine. no random wind ups, not trolling or baiting i think this may well be legit.

Shame he did not tell us what system. because if its legit. he may have been the first person to find a free floating UP.
 
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