UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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well, people will insist on jumping to conclusions, rather than taking hypotheses & rationally constructing tests based on those.
Nobody has found a wild UP for sure. Everyone seems to have rushed off to Elephants Trunk Nebula based on an unvalidated report of what might have been found 60 days ago, assuming it was a UP.

I didnt get self-appointed Professor of Futile Science to sit at home and become an Art Critic discussing a 1 degree error in a fuzzy image.

Doing In-Game Science, even if it is a very dodgy lead
 
well, people will insist on jumping to conclusions, rather than taking hypotheses & rationally constructing tests based on those.
Nobody has found a wild UP for sure. Everyone seems to have rushed off to Elephants Trunk Nebula based on an unvalidated report of what might have been found 60 days ago, assuming it was a UP.

Hypotheses exist to define possible experiments- from recent hypotheses we have a couple of likely lines for search:
IF its to do with a Generation ship launched from Earth & assume the UP is a distress call, then the UPs are likely to be on a line from Merope5C towards Earth; & travel at the same speed as the generation ships (C or less) so presumably towards the Sol end of that line, or within Sol system. How far are the UP convoy systems from Sol?
Feds may have found UPs during their recent occupation of Merope & the convoys may be taking them to Sirius Corp for testing, so within Merope system
More speculatively IF something to do with Thargoids, then since Col70 has recently been blocked off (implying potential source for that race), so UPs might be along that direction.
What do you make of the similarities between UA and UP? How does this fit the 'generation ship conjecture'? The Merope system has recently experienced a massive uptick in player-traffic. How does this fit with the 'Feds found them in Merope conjecture?
As to speculation? Well it is speculation.
Where were you going with your post?
 
k-snipped!.

I appreciate the amount of typing here, but a lot of this has already been answered -and collated- to some degree. Not all of it, and not everyone agrees we need to know all of it so precisely. Even so, several of your questions are already answered in spreadsheets and videos from the front page links.

considering how hard it is to lay hands on a UP, I think they've done great testing, way beyond what you expect from a bunch of guys playing a video game.

The obvious reasonable tests have mostly been done, and nothing Frontier has done before makes me think we're going to get anything out of dissecting the timing. We'd all be better served by finding more UPs, so we have more chances of stumbling onto the thing we're overlooking.

/anti-screed-screed
 
it's not a chord, either, it's a ... ray?
A chord crosses a curve at two (or more?) places

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I just thought of something from my childhood something that would never hurt me
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yeh a ray its not a secant and your right that's not how you represent a chord il have a look and update the image . thanks for pointing that out dude. i do think its a geometric equation of some sort. if you take 5c as the circle. and start adding its vital statistics but its stumping me at the moment. but hey i cant even remember basic geometry .

o7
 
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Given that my last post was about trying to be dry and factual let me indulge in a little tinfoil speculation:

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I've expressed the exact same sentiment several times but not worded as well as you did. Rep.

it is not just a puzzle to solve and move on. it is a history that keeps growing and mysteries are there as part of it. the sooner you realise the less drama to add about tools and -i-need-to-be-able-to-have-all-the-glory.

puzzles keep all of us engaged in a team effort. they have a purpose and is not to gain anything in the game but everything as a community.
 
Here is a better explanation

http://practicalcryptography.com/ciphers/fractionated-morse-cipher/

Fractionated Morse Cipher
Introduction

The Fractionated Morse cipher first converts the plaintext to morse code, then enciphers fixed size blocks of morse code back to letters. This procedure means plaintext letters are mixed into the ciphertext letters i.e. one plaintext letter does not map to one ciphertext letter. This makes it more secure than e.g. substitution ciphers, but it can still be broken with some effort.

One of the benefits of the Fractioned Morse cipher is that it can encipher spaces and punctuation just as easily as letters. The ciphertext message will generally be of a similar length to the plaintext message, but often will have a slightly different number of characters.
Example

To pass an encrypted message from one person to another, it is first necessary that both parties have the 'key' for the cipher, so that the sender may encrypt it and the receiver may decrypt it. For the Fractionated Morse cipher, the key is a mixed alphabet e.g. "ROUNDTABLECFGHIJKMPQSVWXYZ".


........ More at site
 
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Has anyone considered if there is a KEY that its an encryption key?

http://radiopreppers.com/index.php?topic=115.0

How to encode morse code...

it's pretty easy to know when you've found a one-time pad or a public key - they're BIG

we keep looking for codes in places where there's not enough data to be ANYTHING- like we're trying to decode 3 or 4 pulses of static into xyz coords in a galaxy, or lat-long on a planet, or step by step directions, or a system name when we only have enough bits for 1 or 2 letters or a number that goes up to 8 or something
 
I appreciate the amount of typing here, but a lot of this has already been answered -and collated- to some degree. Not all of it, and not everyone agrees we need to know all of it so precisely. Even so, several of your questions are already answered in spreadsheets and videos from the front page links.

considering how hard it is to lay hands on a UP, I think they've done great testing, way beyond what you expect from a bunch of guys playing a video game.

The obvious reasonable tests have mostly been done, and nothing Frontier has done before makes me think we're going to get anything out of dissecting the timing. We'd all be better served by finding more UPs, so we have more chances of stumbling onto the thing we're overlooking.

/anti-screed-screed
It's a long job, but we're on it. See here. Of course the unconfirmed 'Elephant's Trunk sighting', might turn out to be a confirmed sighting proving we're currently looking in the wrong place. Unfortunately, space turns out to be a bit on the big side ;)
 
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well, people will insist on jumping to conclusions, rather than taking hypotheses & rationally constructing tests based on those.
Nobody has found a wild UP for sure. Everyone seems to have rushed off to Elephants Trunk Nebula based on an unvalidated report of what might have been found 60 days ago, assuming it was a UP.

Hypotheses exist to define possible experiments- from recent hypotheses we have a couple of likely lines for search:
IF its to do with a Generation ship launched from Earth & assume the UP is a distress call, then the UPs are likely to be on a line from Merope5C towards Earth; & travel at the same speed as the generation ships (C or less) so presumably towards the Sol end of that line, or within Sol system. How far are the UP convoy systems from Sol?
Feds may have found UPs during their recent occupation of Merope & the convoys may be taking them to Sirius Corp for testing, so within Merope system
More speculatively IF something to do with Thargoids, then since Col70 has recently been blocked off (implying potential source for that race), so UPs might be along that direction.

It could be to do with a generation ship , but it may not be a line back towards Earth. It may be a line back to the system the generation ship ended up in, and what we have in Merope is lost survey or scout ship belonging to said generation ship.:)
 
it is not just a puzzle to solve and move on. it is a history that keeps growing and mysteries are there as part of it. the sooner you realise the less drama to add about tools and -i-need-to-be-able-to-have-all-the-glory.

puzzles keep all of us engaged in a team effort. they have a purpose and is not to gain anything in the game but everything as a community.

+rep to you sir. after days of searching, testing i have to say its so awesome how all of us are so engaged in this. I even managed to get my wife playing cause she thought it was amazing that we found an image embedded into a sound.
 
Not sure if anyone else seen this in 2.1.05 update.

Audio
- Fixed bug where planetary music suite didn't play when approaching from supercruise
- Reduced the timing interval on the probe to bring the total transmission down to just over 6 mins

The only probe I know of in the game is the UP.

So the transmission is just over 6 minutes long, wonder if that helps with anyones theories. We should probably get a new recording as well.

Given that us not earing the whole message was important enough for them to fix it, we really should stop ignoring all of the other symbols that on the left and right hand side of the circle and its 4 symbols.
 
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Not sure if anyone else seen this in 2.1.05



The only probe I know of in the game is the UP.

So the transmission is just over 6 minutes long, wonder if that helps with anyones theories. We should probably get a new recording as well.

You so fast.
 
it is not just a puzzle to solve and move on. it is a history that keeps growing and mysteries are there as part of it. the sooner you realise the less drama to add about tools and -i-need-to-be-able-to-have-all-the-glory.

puzzles keep all of us engaged in a team effort. they have a purpose and is not to gain anything in the game but everything as a community.
Oh, this!
With absolutely no disrespect intended (though some will no doubt be taken), it's ALL about the community folks. This is not a mystery where you get to brag about how YOU were the one. It's about how WE solve each part as we get it through trial, error, patience and the sharing of ideas. I mean to say, over twenty players gave up nearly 11 hours of a recent Saturday to get hold of just two UP. And then what did they do? Gave one of them straight to Rizal. (A good move as it turns out). Do many of you know their names? Do many of you care? Do they turn up here bragging? Apart from me, no. But I'm just trying to make a point.

We can do this. I cannot.
 
Im more interesting in reason why they maked transmission longer. Maybe to incrase resolution of binary hided in sound? Or they find voice message that low in freqs hard was to decode? What if we will need decrypt that messages in future but it is need to take time during banalce or something?
 
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