UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn
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This is fantastic news.
A personal thank you to FDEV in this case too for being reasonable and fair. If you happen to see this trust me, the players notice behaviour like this and it matters to us. We really appreciate it.
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I am -75% with the alliance because I preyed on Mahon members way back. I need to work on improving that if the Alliance are going to become more major players in the bubble soon.
If the latest patch changed something to the UP's behaviour in any way then a new audio spectogram would be essential to see if it brings up anything new imho.
I don't know if you know how to make a new spectogram, I certainly don't, but looking at or testing with the UP with the mentioned changes in the patch notes in mind should be the first thing I would've done.
Cheers.
Gratz man!
This is not the easy way to get UPs I expected! Quick lose them both see if they multiply
I can already see the headline news in next week's Varati Herald ( warning- ensure any mugs of hot liquid or sharp objects are placed safely down!)
"News flash, Scientists eaten by Giant Space Locusts!!!
In an interview with our on-scene news reporter Lisa Plenty, Federation Fleet Commander Admiral JT Scottish-Church said
'We had only just moved our front line forces out of Merope to fulfil their statutory R&R conditions after several weeks of intensive duties protecting the Space Barnacles. During that mission the Canonn scientists had kept everyone awake constantly for weeks, honking their scanners over everything in sight in that system, and sometimes attacking us without provocation; my people are exhausted.
We gather from remote probes that we left behind to provide ongoing Intelligence monitoring that one honk was successful, in that it released hordes of these alien creatures from their subterranean habitat on Merope 5C; after their release they seem to have rapidly acquired an appetite for sedentary scientists.
We intend to move our forces forward to meet this threat as soon as possible after the statutory R&R conditions for time off have been met, possibly in 3 weeks, possibly more, but I'll have to get the Fleet Medical Officer's approval first; our people have been through hell in recent months and need to properly recover before they can face this new challenge. We may first have to take most of them on a holiday somewhere nice and sunny, like Jaques Station, or Tuscany.'
In an interview with our on-scene news reporter Lisa Plenty, Federation Fleet Commander Admiral JT Scottish-Church said
'We had only just moved our front line forces out of Merope to fulfil their statutory R&R conditions after several weeks of intensive duties protecting the Space Barnacles. During that mission the Canonn scientists had kept everyone awake constantly for weeks, honking their scanners over everything in sight in that system, and sometimes attacking us without provocation; my people are exhausted.
We gather from remote probes that we left behind to provide ongoing Intelligence monitoring that one honk was successful, in that it released hordes of these alien creatures from their subterranean habitat on Merope 5C; after their release they seem to have rapidly acquired an appetite for sedentary scientists.
We intend to move our forces forward to meet this threat as soon as possible after the statutory R&R conditions for time off have been met, possibly in 3 weeks, possibly more, but I'll have to get the Fleet Medical Officer's approval first; our people have been through hell in recent months and need to properly recover before they can face this new challenge. We may first have to take most of them on a holiday somewhere nice and sunny, like Jaques Station, or Tuscany.'
Seeing as these puzzles are completely optional, and offer no changes to gameplay, no step up or advantage, I don't think they should be removed because part of the playerbase can't keep up, especially seeing how much buzz they have generated, especially for players like me who found the base game a bit lacking. In short, you may not like it, but that's not a reason to remove it ^.^
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I'm sure it has been done, but I con't find the info on the forst page :
Is it possible to Wake scan / Cargo scan the probe ?
Is it possible to Wake scan / Cargo scan the probe ?
All modules and hardpoints have been tested on the Unknown Probe, including all combinations of discovery scanners.
I agree (even though I now hate Merope C with a loathing
). I have learned so many things by following this. This is the real community goal right here: People sharing knowledge and learning new things. More importantly; these puzzles are a side-show. The game's storyline will continue regardless of whether these puzzles are solved by us, or we find out what we should have done when the next phase of the story emerges.It's all good... even if my head starts spinning after three hours.
I have no idea where free-floaters are - my hunch,
My reason to think that is because I think the UAs found what they were meant to, i.e. us, and the probes have been 'sent' in that direction to learn more. I also believe they'll be found in space because so far the pattern is the same as UAs, and they weren't found on planets till very recently.
However, I'm not suggesting anyone must follow that same line of thought - but if people read that and decide they like the idea, then it'll gain traction and, if it turns out to be right, then the person that finds it off the back of that hunch will rightly get the credit.
But because the chances of it actually being right are so small - I'd be focused on where we know we can get UPs right now - because we have something specific in the patch notes that relates to the UP. As far as I'm concerned that automatically becomes the priority - not proving or disproving whether one person's hunch about where to find wild UPs is correct - but securing a new one so we can record the differences that yesterday's patch introduced.
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Frontier have been impressed by the community effort into the UA mystery from the start. It makes sense for them nurture the community spirit by constructing a puzzle that requires a diverse range of skills to solve. A single person is highly unlikely to have the complete skillset required, although if they did it then would be possible for them to solve the mystery alone (it could be very time-consuming, however). Just look for a moment at the different skills and playstyles required so far for the UP:
- curiosity (to investigate convoys and honk/listen to the UP)
- courage/daring (these are combat-intensive threat 4 signal sources)
- good flying skills under pressure (scooping manually in combat)
- willingness to bend the rules a little (you are stealing the UP, after all, so it's effectively piracy - until free-floaters are found)
- able to work as a part of a team (getting the UP is possible solo but much easier in a group, also a willingness to communicate)
- familiar with basic video software (to record the UP sounds and experiments done with it)
- basic familiarity with audio analysis software (to extract the image)
- imagination (to find meaning in the abstract image transmitted)
- patience / time management (finding the right USS is time-consuming, as is going through the different stages of analysis)
- luck (happening to drop in on the right USS in the right system)
I imagine there is a set process that was intended for us to go through in order to solve the puzzle and find the next step. We are at the position where we have found the image but need to work out what to do with it. Have we actually found a possible, testable interpretation (MBrookes has suggested in a previous post that we have) of the image for us to examine? Or do we need more imagination to find another interpretation? Either way, I think we will need to draw on our patience, curiosity and luck to go exploring in the right place to test whatever interpretation we come up with...
If one person has two UPs now, I think the most informative next-steps would be:
1 - repeat "honking" near something totally different (sun, station, asteroids or something) and see if the message is the same. Repeat several times if possible.
2 - If the message is different from the step above, repeat the original "honking" in the same place with this new probe and see what the message is then.
This way we'd be able to know
1 - does the message change?
2 - does the message relate to what the probe is near?
3 - does the message always stay the same at the same places?
1 - repeat "honking" near something totally different (sun, station, asteroids or something) and see if the message is the same. Repeat several times if possible.
2 - If the message is different from the step above, repeat the original "honking" in the same place with this new probe and see what the message is then.
This way we'd be able to know
1 - does the message change?
2 - does the message relate to what the probe is near?
3 - does the message always stay the same at the same places?
Are you saying, like - cooperation? Like Halsey was talking about?
It's almost spooky
Those are good news
If I'd be not on holidays, you surely know who to give it too, don't you?
However, I'm on holidays, so feel free to give it to whoever offers to keep it and do the right things
Only one caveat: PLEASE POST EXPERIMENTS YOU PERFORMED HERE ON THIS THREAD, NOT ONLY ON THE SPREADSHEET, JUST TO KEEP TRACK.
I was able to read all the posts since me leaving, but, apart from Mayan Numbers (please not again...), and someone still thinking the glyphs could be morse (they are not, but if you like it, go on), nothing really new.
FD have used MORSE for more then a year, so far, so looking at it from their perspective, I would NEVER use morse again. In fact they have found a new toy to play with: images in a spectrogram.
Moreover: only morse letters made by three signs? (-||, -|-, etc) All of them? Please.
Moreover, naming that thing a Probe was almost surely a hint for us, as the most famous probe we know is the Voyager: it's not a coincidence that the - | - symbols are exactly the same used in the Golden Disk to express numbers.
And the Circular shape: why I am sure it is circular and not an EGG? Because to give a reference for scaling some image like this one, you MUST provide something universal, LIKE A CIRCLE. The exact same thing was done for the Images Encoding on the Golden Disk: If you see a circle then you are sure images are correctly decoded and scaled. Same fot TV signals and so on.
In our sonogram, if we see a circle, we are sure the scale is correct. Otherwise you could scale it whatever you like, making its appearance totally arbitrary.
Cheers
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Well, now we have a bunch of short range haulers jumping to Maia, so we could see this theory tested..
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