UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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Well - yes - I should change my language to 'if there are indeed any free floaters, then...'

Because I'm completely on board the 'he only said it was the hard way, that doesn't mean free-floaters are the easy way' bus - with an unlimited return ticket :)

You all are forgetting that CMDR Delmonte asked it directly to MB, face to face, and he replied:
"They are out there in the wild"

;)
 
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Reposting from 4am tin foil...I was looking closely at the images Rizal posted on page 1. Either something is missing / ill-defined at present, or some of this needs to be written off as noise:

Sorry for the crudeness of the sketch, it was late! Does anyone have any suggestions about these highlighted areas?

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8...DdkRjNRQ1Z1Y2M


I increasingly think we're missing something significant in the image. But until that can be confirmed or refuted, I'm considering what elements are merely sound artifacts (no pun intended), and what is genuinely part of the message. And the dark green circled area in the top right - I assume it is noise, but it is very distinctively shaped noise...


There is speculation that the right side is a distorted reflection. I'm not 100% sold on that though as some detail is clearly not reflected. You'll probably find a dozen interpretations of the left panel in this thread. My personal interpretation is that of a ship flying near a UA which emits a dot-wave-dot-wave signal representing morse. Much foil, YMMV, and all the rest of the standard discaimers.
 
Those are good news :D

And the Circular shape: why I am sure it is circular and not an EGG? Because to give a reference for scaling some image like this one, you MUST provide something universal, LIKE A CIRCLE. The exact same thing was done for the Images

In our sonogram, if we see a circle, we are sure the scale is correct.


Cheers

In my opinion, I think the above statement is a mistake. The symbol, from the sonograms available from Canonn, are not circles anyway AND the grid pattern inside the circle is symmetrical from left to right, but not from top to bottom. If there is intent by the message originators to have the symbol properly scaled, then a symmetrical pattern is the correct way to achieve that intent. As for a circle.... there are TONS of ellipses in astronomy. Spinning celestials will bulge at the equator, so the vast majority of them will be elliptical in shape. Orbits are almost always elliptical. True perfect circles are actually rare and usually artificial.

I believe asking the question, should that be a circle or an ellipse? Is a very valid question.

Picture proofs:

QC9DBqY.png
tVuhFnq.png
 
For me, the picture on the sonogram looks like planet surface, as we see it in the system map when zoomed in into planet. Also, symbols translating to 3142 seems like Pi value rounded to 3 decimal digits.

But, let that aside for a while, if it was a galaxy representation with the center at Sag*A, and if we draw a straight line (3142 light years long) from the center to the Pleiades nebula - what would we get? Assuming galaxy "north" is on top, but in fact there's no such thing... (or is it?)

I'm wondering from time to time how often Michael Brookes and the rest of the band facepalms while reading this threadnaught :-D

I don't think they face palm over it. Thing is the majority of theories in this thread have been well composed and logical. even if they are wrong i think you've got to admire the creativity and intelligence of some of the people working on this.
 
ok i just had enough..

i want to find the UP.

please suggests me the nebula where to search it :

pleiades nebula
california nebula
witch head nebula
elephant trunk nebula
barnad's loop
Orion nebula
Cave nebula
(other, specify what)

I just went through the iris nebula last night and there was one potential site for barnacles I went around most of the planets and no USS at all actually.

Also that other tiny one along the way I forget the name has nothing.
 
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In my opinion, I think the above statement is a mistake. The symbol, from the sonograms available from Canonn, are not circles anyway AND the grid pattern inside the circle is symmetrical from left to right, but not from top to bottom. If there is intent by the message originators to have the symbol properly scaled, then a symmetrical pattern is the correct way to achieve that intent. As for a circle.... there are TONS of ellipses in astronomy. Spinning celestials will bulge at the equator, so the vast majority of them will be elliptical in shape. Orbits are almost always elliptical. True perfect circles are actually rare and usually artificial.

I believe asking the question, should that be a circle or an ellipse? Is a very valid question.

Picture proofs:

http://i.imgur.com/QC9DBqY.png http://i.imgur.com/tVuhFnq.png

I'm ok with you about the ellipse, but I was replying to whoever said it had to be taken in linear, not log scale, then like an EGG.
Circular or sligthly elliptical is OK for me: the difference in all the other glyphs will be minimalin in both cases.
That's not the case with eggs, bananas and so on... ;)
With some skills and filters you could make the center circle look whatever you want. That's my point about a reference is needed, and everytime it happened, a circle's been used. In real life I mean. In real science, most of all.
 
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Hi everyone, just some thoughts about what I read the last week in this thread.

I am not meaning to discourage people with new thoughts or less popular hypothesis, but please consider this.

All we need to know is in the information we have, the UP, what it does e.g. points to, and the audio file that contains an image. Even though we might not yet have found all the hidden information in the audio file, it does contain all we need to solve this puzzle.
If we assume that this is a map, that points to a specific location, may it be a galactical feature like a nebular, a solar system feature like a star or planet or moon, or a specific spot on a celestial body.
Please keep the following in mind

Celestial bodies and galactically features are constantly moving, yes a nebular will move very slowly so maybe we can ignore that, but when it comes to a position in a solar system or on a celestial body, we need reference points that do not change. The position of the sun e.g. is constantly changing except for planets, that are tidally locked and in orbit around it. Same for moons and its host planets.
So whatever we suggest, must be true now, in two hours, tomorrow and even next week… (Well I guess we will find what we are looking for until GamesCom since it would just be too great a PR gag to miss on that ;) )

Also, if you overlay the image over a map of a star system and or planet, moon, please keep in mind that those are 3 dimensional entities and the information we have is 2 dimensional as long as we do not find a way to make it 3 dimensional as some already did.
What I am trying to say is, that there is a lot of ways to apply a 2 dimensional map over a 3 dimensional object. And you can literally stick it onto the planet’s surface e.g. in a million different directions, rotations, positions. So we do need reference points which are fix, like surface features or the fact that it is tidally locked and the same side always points to the hosting celestial body etc.

Thus whenever you apply it to something, you need to make sure that it can only be applied in one way so that at any given time it points to one specific point or area. And it needs to be repeatable.

Hope I am making sense here ;)

Making 100% sense! And it's a great point that I don't think has been stressed enough. +rep and virtual rep. :)
 
In my opinion, I think the above statement is a mistake. The symbol, from the sonograms available from Canonn, are not circles anyway AND the grid pattern inside the circle is symmetrical from left to right, but not from top to bottom. If there is intent by the message originators to have the symbol properly scaled, then a symmetrical pattern is the correct way to achieve that intent. As for a circle.... there are TONS of ellipses in astronomy. Spinning celestials will bulge at the equator, so the vast majority of them will be elliptical in shape. Orbits are almost always elliptical. True perfect circles are actually rare and usually artificial.

I believe asking the question, should that be a circle or an ellipse? Is a very valid question.

Picture proofs:

There's a risk of conflating circle vs ellipse with visual representations of the center object (egg vs circle). (NOTE, I'm not saying you are, but some clearly have).

The first is just differentiating the general case of ellipses with 2 discrete foci from degenerate case of ellipses where the foci are the same (circle). The 2nd case is a frequency scaling issue. Whether the frequency is scaled linearly, logarithmicly or some other method (MEL modified log scale based on perception).
If you draw an object that's intended to be a discrete ellipse on a frequency vs time scale there is no way to scale that object in frequency and get a circle and vice versa.

Now, within the resolution we have it may well be that it represents an ellipse, for instance Merope5c's orbit is elliptical, it's really close to circular but it's not. So it is plausible that the object is intended to represent Merope5c's (or some other planet) orbit so maybe draw a perfect circle and an ellipse representing Merope5c's orbit and overlay them and see which has a *best* fit.

Personally I kind of doubt that's it because then the lat/long lines have no obvious (or even not so obvious) meaning. Lastly, to my eye, what you've shown is that the scaling method you've used (log vs MEL vs Bark etc) is not the right one. The right one is the one that makes a perfect circle since that was the scale used to draw the original object.
 
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You all are forgetting that CMDR Delmonte asked it directly to MB, face to face, and he replied:
"They are out there in the wild"

;)

Of course this could mean many things, not just that they may be 'free floaters' *I keep wanting to say 'Free Repeaters' from the film they recently ruined.
 
ok i just had enough..

i want to find the UP.

please suggests me the nebula where to search it :

pleiades nebula
california nebula
witch head nebula
elephant trunk nebula
barnad's loop
Orion nebula
Cave nebula
(other, specify what)
scratch elephant and cave nebula. i was in both, only degraded emissions. and as far as we know it the ua uss shows up within seconds if you are in the right system and i strongly believe that its going to be the same with the up. so we were either searching in the wrong nebulae or we should search in a sphere around them just like the ua bubble around the pleiades. however i think they are closer to us than the elephant or cave nebulea. during the weekend i'm going to search around merope in a 300ly sphere (= double size of the ua sphere). furthermore I still have that comment from drew in my head from a couple of weeks ago that he doesnt want to be around the old worlds. so maybe the up spawns near a planet in an aliance system. their silence about all the recent events is really suspicious to me...
 
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Of course this could mean many things, not just that they may be 'free floaters' *I keep wanting to say 'Free Repeaters' from the film they recently ruined.
NO, it couldn't. Delmonte's question was quite specific.

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scratch elefant and cave nebula. i was in both, only degraded emissions. and as far as we know it the ua uss shows up within seconds if you are in the right system and i strongly believe that its going to be the same with the up. so we were either searching in the wrong nebulae or we should search in a sphere around them just like the ua bubble around the pleiades. however i think they are closer to us than the elephant or cave nebulea. during the weekend i'm going to search around merope in a 300ly sphere (= double size of the ua sphere). furthermore I still have that comment from drew in my head from a couple of weeks ago that he doesnt want to be around the old worlds. so maybe the up spawns near a planet in an aliance system. their silence about all the recent events is really suspicious to me...
Except that the original space-borne UA did not, repeat did not, 'appear within seconds'.
 
i decided the destination:

unknown (like the unknown probe)

wish me good luck guys... maybe tonite we will dine in hell !!

ehmm..i mean: maybe for tonite we will have the first UP without sacrifices of blood... !
 
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Interesting...McMahon...Reference to the last time she met with him before SS1's disappearance?
i think some of the clues to this puzzle will come from Halsey. Its really been bothering me when she was found she rambled about "Architects of creation". "They are out there. I have seen them. We must put aside our petty differences and work together to establish contact. There is so much we could learn from them." The former leader purports to have seen "the true architects of creation" and to have been shown what she describes as "the infinities of the cosmos" – assertions that, along with her slowed speech, have seen her condemned as mentally unstable by some commentators. - 'Jasmina Halsey Appeals For Exploration Data'

"I remember very little, really. A thunderous noise, then silence. Being thrown across the bridge in my chair, and then being unable to breathe. I remember one of my bodyguards getting me to the pod as things floated about silently, like a dream. The last thing I remember is a terrible pain in my ears and a very loud noise as the pod filled with what looked like steam. - 'Halsey Talks to The Media' l this entry here. Thats our UP. Thrown across the bridge. Sounds like our EMP blast

"True Architects of Creation".............maybe 5C is artificial. Maybe somethin in ORBIT around 5C is artificial.......I think talking to the probe will lead us to an orbital station and the specto is the map that shows us where it is.
 
Hi all ... love following this thread. I am on Xbox One and last night while perusing the Galmap I noticed that many of the locked unknown permit systems around the Witch Head and Orion nebulas were no longer permit locked. In fact, I was unable to find any locked systems out that way and earlier this week it seemed they were all over the place. Unfortunately it was too late in the evening for me to make my way out there, but I was wondering if anyone else noticed this change? Given the late hour, I may have been seeing things incorrectly, but I could not find a locked unknown permit system for the life of me.
 
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