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UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn
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Hi Fellow riddlers,
a view things to keep in mind:
A the outer "Numbers" many did translate them to binary, since they only provde two different signs - and | therefore the only possible way (and most logical) to turn them into numbers is applying binary. If they were octal we would need 8 different signs to represent the numbers from 0 to 7, if they were decimal we would need 10 different signs to represent the numbers from 0 to 9.
I think that the confusion came up when people saw PI in them by assuming that you can translate the binary numbers to their decimal equivalents. But that is questionable, since we cannot assume that the "Sender" uses the decimal system. It would make sense though if they e.g. hint to the center figure being an exact circle. This also does not rule out, that it might be morse even though the amount of letters would be very limited with only 3 sections to the morse and the morse alphabet is ahuman invention as well as the alphabet itself. So what ever fits your theory, use it as long as the theory as a whole is pointing something out in a logical followable fashion.
About the circle being a circle, I do not think that it makes much of a difference weather it is a exact circle in the images provided or not. Although I am pretty sure it is supposed to be a circle. Why? Because we measure everything on a sphere or orbit in fractions of a circle even if the orbit is elyptical and as someone else already pointed out, we need a form that is in itself singular and simple to be defined in all its properties. The circle pretty much jumps right into your face if you want to explain something to someone that cannot understand your language.
According to the lines that devide the circle into fractions like longitude and latitude, I am convinced it devides it into 6 fractions not 5 you have to count the holes not the lines
and there will be a top part that is hardly noticeable.
I also think that this is a "simple" puzzle and yes we all over exaggerate trying to find the solution, which is very common if someone cannot see the solution in a simple puzzle after some time we start to overcomplicate. This is actually utilized in many puzzles.
I posted a simple approach to find a specific area on merope 5c using this image a while back. Here is a link for those interested: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ad-7-The-Canonn/page542?p=4263348#post4263348
Even though I am not at all convinced that this is the solution or even part of it. I too think that the other parts of the image e.g. left and right as well as the "Numbers" which I did not utilize in my approach do play an important role in the solution.
So just see it as an example as to how to find coordinates with fix points (here merope 5 and the orbital direction)
Also make sure when you apply the image to a part of a planet, that we cannot automatically assume that the conecpt of 0 meridian and equator would be used by the "sender" first of all most planets have a geographical north pole the upper point the plaet turns around and yes tidally locked planets do turn around their axis, some also have a magnetic north pole Also they all have two of each those poles, one on top and one on the bottom. We cannot assume that the "sender" has the same sense of direction when it comes to which side of the Galaxy is UP if he even uses this approach at all. And the +90° 0° point on merope 5c is NOT the geographical north pole as far as my test went.
The 0 meridian is even worse. It`s a line that astrophysicists agree upon from where to start the rotary measurement of a planets surface (and yes I know that this is not true for Earth since on earth it was developed in England as a method to navigate the seas and not from astrophysicists). On Mars, e.g it`s a small crater and one could have easily decided it would be the top of olympos mons or any other surface feature. So our 0 meridian is pretty much useless.
So all these things need to be "defined" in the image if it is a map of a planets surface. See my approach...
I am also thinking, that the fact that the UP sends out clicks in its mutual song when not scanned might be a really important finding that might play a huge role in the solution.
And again, I do not want to discourage people with "revolutionary" ideas that others might find strange. I am glad it is a free post and everyone is allowed to say what they think.
There is only one thing that I am sure of at the moment and that is once we know the solution we will all go facepalm and moan "oh that was easy how could I not have seen it" (me included)
Keep them ideas coming and I hope my thoughts might lead to some new ideas....
Fly save commanders...
P.S. have you guys seen this little teaser by Vindicator Jones? I love it, it keeps up the moral and urge to find the solution
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiHa82amyi8
a view things to keep in mind:
A the outer "Numbers" many did translate them to binary, since they only provde two different signs - and | therefore the only possible way (and most logical) to turn them into numbers is applying binary. If they were octal we would need 8 different signs to represent the numbers from 0 to 7, if they were decimal we would need 10 different signs to represent the numbers from 0 to 9.
I think that the confusion came up when people saw PI in them by assuming that you can translate the binary numbers to their decimal equivalents. But that is questionable, since we cannot assume that the "Sender" uses the decimal system. It would make sense though if they e.g. hint to the center figure being an exact circle. This also does not rule out, that it might be morse even though the amount of letters would be very limited with only 3 sections to the morse and the morse alphabet is ahuman invention as well as the alphabet itself. So what ever fits your theory, use it as long as the theory as a whole is pointing something out in a logical followable fashion.
About the circle being a circle, I do not think that it makes much of a difference weather it is a exact circle in the images provided or not. Although I am pretty sure it is supposed to be a circle. Why? Because we measure everything on a sphere or orbit in fractions of a circle even if the orbit is elyptical and as someone else already pointed out, we need a form that is in itself singular and simple to be defined in all its properties. The circle pretty much jumps right into your face if you want to explain something to someone that cannot understand your language.
According to the lines that devide the circle into fractions like longitude and latitude, I am convinced it devides it into 6 fractions not 5 you have to count the holes not the lines
and there will be a top part that is hardly noticeable.I also think that this is a "simple" puzzle and yes we all over exaggerate trying to find the solution, which is very common if someone cannot see the solution in a simple puzzle after some time we start to overcomplicate. This is actually utilized in many puzzles.
I posted a simple approach to find a specific area on merope 5c using this image a while back. Here is a link for those interested: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ad-7-The-Canonn/page542?p=4263348#post4263348
Even though I am not at all convinced that this is the solution or even part of it. I too think that the other parts of the image e.g. left and right as well as the "Numbers" which I did not utilize in my approach do play an important role in the solution.
So just see it as an example as to how to find coordinates with fix points (here merope 5 and the orbital direction)
Also make sure when you apply the image to a part of a planet, that we cannot automatically assume that the conecpt of 0 meridian and equator would be used by the "sender" first of all most planets have a geographical north pole the upper point the plaet turns around and yes tidally locked planets do turn around their axis, some also have a magnetic north pole Also they all have two of each those poles, one on top and one on the bottom. We cannot assume that the "sender" has the same sense of direction when it comes to which side of the Galaxy is UP if he even uses this approach at all. And the +90° 0° point on merope 5c is NOT the geographical north pole as far as my test went.
The 0 meridian is even worse. It`s a line that astrophysicists agree upon from where to start the rotary measurement of a planets surface (and yes I know that this is not true for Earth since on earth it was developed in England as a method to navigate the seas and not from astrophysicists). On Mars, e.g it`s a small crater and one could have easily decided it would be the top of olympos mons or any other surface feature. So our 0 meridian is pretty much useless.
So all these things need to be "defined" in the image if it is a map of a planets surface. See my approach...
I am also thinking, that the fact that the UP sends out clicks in its mutual song when not scanned might be a really important finding that might play a huge role in the solution.
And again, I do not want to discourage people with "revolutionary" ideas that others might find strange. I am glad it is a free post and everyone is allowed to say what they think.
There is only one thing that I am sure of at the moment and that is once we know the solution we will all go facepalm and moan "oh that was easy how could I not have seen it" (me included)
Keep them ideas coming and I hope my thoughts might lead to some new ideas....
Fly save commanders...
P.S. have you guys seen this little teaser by Vindicator Jones? I love it, it keeps up the moral and urge to find the solution
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiHa82amyi8
Hello Whispers. You should check base8, octal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octal
You'll see why the numbers are as they are. If they are numbers that is. Morse have been discussed quite a bit as well.
And plenty of discussion how the upper are numbers, while the lower symbols is something else.
You'll see why the numbers are as they are. If they are numbers that is. Morse have been discussed quite a bit as well.
And plenty of discussion how the upper are numbers, while the lower symbols is something else.
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Thank you, that is exactly my point if it was octals, you`s need 8 different symbols which represent 0 to 7 OR if you translate binary to octal you need 3x3 binaries leaving you with 3 unused binaries on the outer part or one binary triple short if you assume only the top part are binary numbers....
Thanks for the link it explains it way better than I could
Thanks for the link it explains it way better than I could
Whatever he typed? Are you people serious? He has a good theory and you lazy buggers can't get over the image which he implicitly states he believes is a glitch.
JFC stop being so lazy and actually read.
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Thank you, that is exactly my point if it was octals, you`s need 8 different symbols which represent 0 to 7 OR if you translate binary to octal you need 3x3 binaries leaving you with 3 unused binaries on the outer part or one binary triple short if you assume only the top part are binary numbers....
Thanks for the link it explains it way better than I could
They point is that you can convert between base8 and 10 on the fly. The numbers remain the same, as long as they are separate numbers.
Of course, it was people in the thread here who put them together in a context such as Pi, or an order/sequence.
The numbers are well within 0-7.
Yes, but that would mean, that it could also be 110 (one hundred and ten) 010 (ten) in decimal or Hexadecimal where 010 would represent A... Isn`t that why messages to an alien entity are usually encoded in binary because that is the smallest non dividable part of all numbering systems? I think I am not getting your point....
Because I said it was, and it didn't need to be repeated.
The rest of the points made in my post are not predicated upon or dependent upon whether or not that texture is a glitch. But this guy just read the first three lines and dismissed the whole post without reading further, and replied with something my post already said instead of addressing any of the actual salient points made there. That is annoying to me, primarily because I don't like people who can't be asked to actually read what they're replying to, or actually think.
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Yes. Exactly
I can't imagine how annoying it must be to you, when you actually bothered to write that whole thing. Heck, it's annoying to me and I'm mostly just lurking. [big grin]
I'm going to head there myself. Did you happen to drive along that vector? I've got a buddy, so we might just split up and check the vector along both the planet and space.
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Well i can see it didnt take long for this thread turned mega thread to turn from theorys and fun community spirit into every second post being an argument, troll or just completely off topic.....
Supose it was just a matter of time. Just hope that some of you seen me and a few others newgrange theory or more to the point actually read it. And the other good theorys that have been posted
Supose it was just a matter of time. Just hope that some of you seen me and a few others newgrange theory or more to the point actually read it. And the other good theorys that have been posted
OK heres some pictures of my attempt - to overlay the spectrtograph on a sphere, with the hope of decoding some data under the circle.
http://imgur.com/a/rO66d
http://imgur.com/dQ42Tsq
Is it just me or are there some markings down there - maybe i need some better spectrograph....
does anyone even remotely think this concept is on the right track?????
I strongly agree with your use of the word annoyed lol
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I cant fully make it out on my phone but will check it out tomorrow looks like your on a good track though nobody knows what the right one is yet but good work cmdr
here is some i posted in a previous post, unfortunately my posts time-travel with the understandable approval ordeal..
https://imgur.com/a/ZAvz3
hope it helps someone, imho nothing new to find on merope at least ..
It's optional. Like, there's already a game. This is for people who want to tackle a hard puzzle. If you don't want to do that... don't. I've never figured anything out in the last year. I'm fine with it. I like the search.
It's funny, people keep banging on about this puzzle's "Complexity" and "alienating people"; frankly, the external tools people use like:
Are actually way more complex than anything to-date in this story arc.
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Me too.. I even see it on my mousepad... Oh thats just the steelseries logo... Hmmmmm maybe...
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