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UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn
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I strongly follow the theory. At first glance of that symbol, I know it is benards loop. Besides, Frontier Development stated that the location was obvious, and yet we all did our own research. I strongly believe no one has fully search the area yet (mainly because there are thousands of systems). But I'd rather spend my ED time living out in that nebula, until we find something exciting.
start from california nebula and you can get right in with minimal issues. barnard's loop is huge. i've been all over but not to every system. nothing out of the ordinary was found. Without a clue though, good luck.
This is good work.
There is no indication that this part of the sound ever repeats on the UA or the barnacles.
I guess you did this analyzes on the long recording form M5C, with the 'old' transmission length?
I wonder if the new one has fewer Purrs or if it only loops faster?
If you have it, please post the full sequence in single purrs (not grouped).
I just came back from the loop.
Nothing found, spent 1.5 weeks there.
Though it's indeed very big.
If it is a map of sorts, it needs at least two points of reference. Going of a bit of a stretch with Dan Grubs comment of looking at the two lines of the spec graph seem to be pointing at Merope and then you can work out the origin etc, is a bit random by itself. Has anyone manage to find a point of reference that could be used in that regard? I've looked and look, and then my eyes fell out.
Looking at the image I ask myself is it a planetary map? A system map? A sector map? A galactic map?
Where are points of reference? A map should be easy to read once you have it aligned correctly. No point having a map of a different place and claiming well it sort of looks like we are here because of xxx and ignoring that fact that the big hill you see isn't on the map.
I can't help but think most people are thinking way too deeply for this mystery. Maybe not, but it feels like we are not on the right track so far.
Perhaps if we try to simplify our own ideas, while keeping them fitting with what we have...* shrugs * I need a map, I'm lost.
Actually, stanza 8 is - - - _ _ . So yeah, you do have 000/111 (depending on if you think high is 0 or 1).
Also, chirp-set #7 (first one in stanza 3) is three high chirps in a row.
What I am noticing is that the chirp-sets in the first seven stanzas are only comprised of a limited set of words:
(a) _--
(b) --_
(c) -_- (annoyed gamer trying to solve this puzzle)
(d) --_-- (very annoyed gamer trying to solve this puzzle)
(e) ---
Most, but not all, of these chirp-words are accompanied by either a high or low purr that happens just before, during, or after the word.
So for example in the first stanza we have the following sequence:
- high purr
- (a) + low purr
- (b) + high purr
- high purr
- (c)
- low purr
It seems pretty clear that the purrs somehow modify the chirp-words to expand their meaning somehow. If these are binary numbers, perhaps it's just another digit, or perhaps it's a negative or positive sign. If they are complex numbers, perhaps it's whether or not i is involved. Who knows.
I've mapped out all the chirps and purrs through #8, and I'm halfway through mapping the chords that accompany each section. It could be the chord changes indicate the beginning or ending of a given number.
But what is troubling to me is that the symbols from our main diagram do not all match the chirp-words. For example if the higher tone is equal to | in the diagram, then -|| matches (a), but, |-- has no match, -|- has no match, and --| has no match! Meanwhile if the lower tone is equal to | in the diagram, then |-- matches (a), -|- matches (c), --| matches (b), and only -|| has no match. Based on that it seems likely that at least when it comes to the chirps, the lower tone should be interpreted as | in the diagram. (That kind of makes sense, since the lower tone has longer wavelengths, and | is a longer symbol than -).
So then, to what can we match -|| (high-low-low)? If we use the purrs for that, then we'll have no problem, because the high-low-low pattern appears four times (if we ignore the barrier between stanzas) and three times if we don't. Even if we take purrs and nearby chirps together as words, we still have the high-low-low purr pattern occurring twice without interruption from chirps (if we ignore the barrier between stanzas) and once if we don't (at the beginning of stanza 5). This would make -|| the odd man out, but that might also explain why it has the two arcs symbol next to it: that could mean, "map this symbol to the purr words instead of the chirp words", if the double arc represents the purrs. And why not, since they are longer wavelength sounds?
The real oddities are stanzas 7 and 8.
Stanza 7 has only one chirp-word, (e), which means ZERO if this is binary. That could be an "end of message" marker.
Then stanza 8 has a weird chirp-word of _--- followed by ---- which are non-standard words according to the first seven.
Kloopy performed a similar analysis on a space recording of the UP. But I think he did not include the purrs or the chords into the equation, and he over-analyzed certain anomalies in the chirps, I think, misinterpreting as signal what was really noise in a few places (like his "L" symbols, which you can tell are a product of noise because the L bit only shows up on one of the two stereo channels).
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Maybe maybe it's this way:
b) --_ [fools to the left of me]
a) _-- [Jokers to the right]
..... No? I'll go back to sleep.
Has anyone seen the commodity "Scientific Research" before? I found one in a medical convoy while cargo scanning, don't want a bounty if it's just pirate booty
Aye, it appears on convoys quite a bit.
Thanks for the quick reply mate <3
Yes, you are very perceptive. I did it with the old transmission length of the M5C recording. If the new transmission is simply the old transmission, just truncated at the 6:15 mark, then we can shave off the last three numbers and we're left with seven: 22, 19, 6, 9, 19, 6, 26.
It would kind of suck if they changed the recording entirely at this stage, rather than just truncated it. If they are saying, "only the first 6:15 is relevant" then that's cool. Otherwise I'm gonna be like --_--;;;
Here is what I'm working out so far (excuse the crappy drawings, it's a work in progress). Legend:
HC/LC means High Chirp/Low Chirp.
HP/LP means High Purr/Low Purr.
HN/LN means High Note/Low Note (of the chords that play in the background, which you can barely hear, but I'm a ear-trained musician and a synths player and I'm analyzing with some special music software so it stands out a bit easier). Note: I only charted the chords through the first four stanzas due to time. Will finish later.
HD/LD which I used in stanza 3 means "high dot, low dot" because there was a distinct pair of short note sounds there. I doubt if it's relevant.
Shapes - The shapes in the chirp channel delineate the chirp-words as mentioned in my previous post. The shapes in the purr channel are a work in progress, just ignore them. But you can note the more circular one is the -|| mapping.
Lines - A lines connects a chirp-words to a purr when the purr happened simultaneously or within a second or two of the beginning or end of the chirp-word.
Stanzas - I show through stanza 7 (stanzas being separated by the beginning of howls).
I don't know what all this means yet, of course... maybe someone can take it from here. This is just pattern analysis. There is still the small matter of the triple waveform at the top of the spectrogram... is it a carrier wave for some kind of signal perhaps?
The only region that's obvious right now is Merope / Merope 5C. We have no conclusive informations about any other spot yet.
It further strengthens my hypothesis that the two lines on the lower left of the diagram line up with the large and small Magellanic clouds.
I mean, wouldn't it make a cool expansion pack if you could craft intergalactic jump drives out of meta-alloys and UA/UP and get to those clouds? Considering how little memory their proc-gen galaxy takes up, I bet they could add a couple of more without too much trouble. Not that I'm gonna get my hopes up that far, but wouldn't that be cool?
I hope that's the surprise - - - - - Additional Content Posted / Auto Merge - - - - -
Hah. Fortunately, no, just a serial exporer...
This thread has gone quieter recently, are we a bit stalled.
I keep coming back in my head to this theory, not sure it helps though, but here it is anyway.
Kerrash mentioned the crashed alien ship, and also says the data and clues are there.
To me the map symbol from the UP is most likely to represent the grid of the planet we see in the system map. Split into 4 segments, each symbol in the corner is a clue to the markers in the corresponding segment.
It is probably telling us where to look on a planet, (maybe merope 5c, maybe not) i do think it is telling us where the crashed alien ship is, and that is where we find the next part of the story.
I keep coming back in my head to this theory, not sure it helps though, but here it is anyway.
Kerrash mentioned the crashed alien ship, and also says the data and clues are there.
To me the map symbol from the UP is most likely to represent the grid of the planet we see in the system map. Split into 4 segments, each symbol in the corner is a clue to the markers in the corresponding segment.
It is probably telling us where to look on a planet, (maybe merope 5c, maybe not) i do think it is telling us where the crashed alien ship is, and that is where we find the next part of the story.
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