UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

[iFred]

The UP is ACTIVELY disabling our HUD or part of the ship-systems, just to give us a message. From my point of view it´s far away from being deactivated. I think "it" well knows what it´s doing. It´s purpose - again, my personal opinion, - is to give us the message. No question.

(OK, one point: It doesnt have enough energy to do its work and its somehow converting our GONG - but this is well beyond my imagination...)

 

[Derthek]

To anyone who still thinks the UA / UP are pointing away from their targets...


Take a pencil with an eraser on the end. Point the lead/graphite end of the pencil toward your computer monitor. Notice the eraser end points away from the monitor. Now keep the lead/graphite end pointed at your monitor and move around the room. Notice how the lead/graphite end remains fixed while the eraser end points in many directions? Given this result we can assume the fixed end is the head/pointy end. Does that make sense?

The eraser end points to an infinite number of directions while the lead/graphite end only points in one direction.

Why would an object point "away" from something in an infinite number of directions? It makes much more sense for an object to point "towards" something in a single direction.

 

[SCTrojanbulldog]

has anyone dropped a UA or UP on a barnacle? Or housed them together?

 

[mach10]

has anyone dropped a UA or UP on a barnacle? Or housed them together?

Would be better if you tried reading the first page on completed experiments.

 

[Johnny Kelso]

Can't remember for sure but it was usually 9aus for a system like sol.or Barnard's star. It could be higher for larger binary systems.

Not sure on the Ls conversion for AUs (astronomical units - I think earth to sun is one au?)

1 Au = 500ls (approx)

 

[CMDR AridKillzone]

As I stated earlier Merope 5C has massive images hidden on it's surface around the coordinates: -28.1990 -157.4042 0.136.
Images have been treated with the "key" from the news letter. There's so much out here!
#1: http://imgur.com/g22hTBk
#2: http://imgur.com/fK7zpjj
More treated images to follow. There's a message down here bois, lets either get crackin or try to get the probe to do it for us!

Is anyone listening?

I'm not really seeing any hidden images. First image has a diamond shape but it looks like the game rendering different shades/shadows to me. Try and photoshop some lines of these "images" you're seeing and check if they actually line up with anything we've found.

 

[Jaiotu]

Why would an object point "away" from something in an infinite number of directions? It makes much more sense for an object to point "towards" something in a single direction.

It could point away in an infinite number of directions simply to say "anyplace other then here". Imagine standing at the Trinity site on July 16, 1945 and asking one of the scientists "where should I be?" The answer would be "anyplace but here!"

Still ... totally meaningless. If the UAs are universally pointing away from their targets then that still means the focus of attention should be placed on what they are pointing away from and why. In the absence of any clear communication the simplest explanation is that they are pointing toward the target. If they didn't want to draw our attention to the target then pointing away from or toward ANYTHING else would make more sense.

 

[Tomtom]

So then pretty far out of the system? Depending on the systems size?

Yeah it tended to be some ways out, but I can't recall how it dealt with large binary systems. Also, if my memory isn't totally on the blink, the dropout point was always close to the orbital plane of the system (can somebody with better knowledge confirm this please?) so if I'm somehow right it would be more of a UP ring than a shell.

 

[MyklAtrum]

To expound a bit on my theory:

I believe the UP may use the wail/howls to denote proximity or similarity to what it is probing for.

The idea came to me listening to Vent's first recording and having no howls/wails occur after 6ish minutes. Theoretically the howls may occur closer together or more often the closer the UP is to its target.

This should be simple enough to test, Vent has been kind enough go repeat the test while exploring (I believe the post is up here). Once again, no wails/howls. If we can find a correlation between howls/wails frequency and certain celestial objects or systems we may be able to use the UP to lead us in the direction it wants to go. Simple enough to test just needs people watching/listening for it.

The audio may be dynamic as I doubt there is a set interval between wails/howls. In general there should be more howls per minute if the UP is close to what its searching or what it's search criteria are. The howls per minute may increase based on system or location in the system.

For instance, in merope the UP does howl however when Vent took it a long ways away from the star/system proper it didn't howl. The UP may need to be closer to celestial objects or it won't howl. Likewise if the system it is in is sufficently far enough away from its search location it may not howl.

Now for the second half of this block of text:

Experiments:

Test sequence 1: Repetition of experiment in merope. Go 1k, 10k, and 100k Ls from Merope star (in a line) and drop the UP, record, scoop, and drop again at each location.
Theorized outcome: decreasing howls per minute as distance from the primary increases

Test sequence 2: use the same sequence as described in sequence 1 but in a system in the UA shell.
Theorized outcome: Decreased howls per minute as distancing from the primary increases. Over all less howls per minute I'm each location when compared to merope.


These tests are simple and safe enough to do, their results would help show if the howls/wails change is a fluke or if it may carry meaning. I would suggest using howls per minute to quantify the results as the interval between howls has not been set. I believe the interval and how it varies is important but it's relevance and patterns in it are better established if he experiments bear fruit.

I definitely agree with these tests. If not significant in some way then they would not have removed the howls in the programming. We would have the same audio regardless of location. Unless this is a bug, it proves that location may change the sound. The why can be determined after testing how.

 

[SpocksOddSocks]

I have found several USSs in orbit. No UA or UP though.

Oh, and out of interest - finding, say, 5 UAs in OC was going to be preliminary "negative" if I'd stuck this out, but I was hoping the first Anomoly I found would be different.

 

[CookieJarviz]

you think.

IT IS unknown yet.

How can I think when we already had someone decode something off of the UP?

 

[Zieman]

Can't remember for sure but it was usually 9aus for a system like sol.or Barnard's star. It could be higher for larger binary systems.

Not sure on the Ls conversion for AUs (astronomical units - I think earth to sun is one au?)

1 AU ~ 500 Ls

 

[Derthek]

How can I think when we already had someone decode something off of the UP?

Easy. You haven't. You haven't been able to back up what you said with proof, and no one believes you.

 

[Colonel Kenney]

This is what you see when you fly from Merope to Merope 5. This has been proposed already but none have lined it up like this. It's always been within the Merope 5 perimeter.

So if you line up the clues the UA points to the star. Then from the star you point somewhere the UP says which points at Merope 5. So you take the UP there to Merope 5 and it tells you which specific moon it is on.

I propose it's just a map from the star to the planet. The numbers and symbols give more detail.

http://i.imgur.com/A7oDQFH.png

Line up Merope 5 like this at 138 degrees

http://i.imgur.com/S5k7iGh.png

Then rotate 90 degrees counter clockwise. (step 2) You can see the rings then line up at step 3.

http://i.imgur.com/0MhabYI.png



Step 4 I'm not sure but I THINK if you put the the protractor on square then to 138 degrees then you rotate it 90 degrees you should come up with a position of about 8 degrees latitude -20 longitude. I'll need to get a protractor to confirm

Make it 10 degrees and 18 degrees (unknown which one would be lat long or negative positive) I think if both sides if they were on a chart I think they'd both be negative right?

I'm going to go check it out.

I still think if this is a "key" what do you do with a key? You twist it. I've been playing with a 360 degree protractor and lining things up and following the order to find the final coords by twisting it those degrees. I didn't have time to search last night much. But I think

Has anyone ever considered a "combination lock"? You have 3 numbers for a combination lock that require you to spin things one way, and then back the other and then back the other.

Could this lead us to a 3d coordinate of a star somewhere?

 

[Han_Zen]

Oh, and out of interest - finding, say, 5 UAs in OC was going to be preliminary "negative" if I'd stuck this out, but I was hoping the first Anomoly I found would be different.

Me to.

 

[Olythekid]

Since the UP reacts to our Honk, maybe a spectrum of our Honk would complement the spectrum image of the UP? [wacky]

 

[Flermpick]

Easy. You haven't. You haven't been able to back up what you said with proof, and no one believes you.

I'll Rep that.

 

[Vitamin Arrr]

Well.

Lets face some theories - of course my personal opinions:

Picture of the sphere and the 4 symbols is all we get and all we need from the sound-recording: 9/10
Sound recording contains more than the picture (e.g., morsecode, other symbols): 0/10
Picture leads to a certain place on Merope 5c: 5/10
Picture leads to a planetary system somewhere: 9/10
Sound has a hidden morse code: 2/10
UP has more than one sound e.g. different sound at certain places: 1/10
Free floaters will be found before gamescom: 1/10

So

I am going to posit a critical interpretation. I think this "picture" is not suggested by the diagram at all. There is nothing about it that tells us to start drawing a picture (of all things). Why would someone use a picture of a sphere as a "code" to get us to draw... a crappier, lower-resolution picture of... a sphere? This is totally a red herring guys.

 

[Jaiotu]

I still think if this is a "key" what do you do with a key? You twist it. I've been playing with a 360 degree protractor and lining things up and following the order to find the final coords by twisting it those degrees. I didn't have time to search last night much. But I think

Has anyone ever considered a "combination lock"? You have 3 numbers for a combination lock that require you to spin things one way, and then back the other and then back the other.

Could this lead us to a 3d coordinate of a star somewhere?

http://pickeroflocks.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/combination-lock-icon-1.jpg

Assuming that we are dealing with an alien intelligence then the problem is understanding their mathematics to figure out any coordinates.

1. We can't assume that the probes/artifacts/barnacles divide a circle into 360 degrees.
2. We can't assume that they calculate numbers in decimal notation or even binary.

The first order of business in opening a dialog with an alien species would be establishing a common understanding of math ... the simplest thing would be to establish that we both understand binary mathematics and then to build from there. The fact that the alien artifacts communicated via Morse Code is indicative that they have already gained advanced knowledge of our species from SOME source. If they can communicate via Morse then we need to question why they've switched to this pictogram? Unless the Probes/Artifacts are totally different species that don't share knowledge with each other it doesn't quite make sense.

 

[Allant Doran]

Easy. You haven't. You haven't been able to back up what you said with proof, and no one believes you.

Yeah I'm afraid I agree with this train of thought, CookieJarviz.

While I am happy you are working down that path and will maybe have some evidence to show for it, currently you have not. This means that currently the status quo has not accepted the 'decoder ring' idea as mainstream understanding.

Once you provide evidence for this then we will view it and see for ourselves. For now, however, it's just a theory like any other. Perfectly valid for posting but not inherently correct.