UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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As suggested by Bungalo of The Canonn, I have performed a couple more experiments in an attempt to determine when a UP will light up and wail and when it will not. The data recorded can be found in the post linked in my signature.

It seems that the UP will wail when in proximity of a planet, but not a (main) star. With proximity I mean when the bottom left panel of your ship's HUD says the name of the nearby celestial body. The UP will not wail when in deep space. The significance of this is unclear.

During the last test of these experiments, I lost my UP when I disconnected while I had it out. You can see in the last video that I franctically and clumsily tried to scoop the UP when I noticed that my connection was dying. I managed to scoop the UP at the client-side in the end, but this couldn't salvage the situation. I disconnected shortly after and upon relogging, the UP was not in my cargo hold. A ticket to FD support has been sent in the hopes of getting it back.

can't see anything in any video- you haven't provided a link
 
Will take me a little time to get the photo that convinces,
meanwhile my new favourite word is pareidolia - thx

If you haven't already got a clearer image than the last time you posted then I can't agree with you. You're seeing numbers where there are no numbers.
 
While i try to get this right - go to audacity, load up the message, but this time look at left and right.

the message is in the box below the line at 900Hz going down as low as 150 Hz,

the three panels from the top are still down here, the bottom left has a smudge .|. symbol,
now look at the bottom audio, if you subtract that fromt he top you have your symbol cleaned up

do it in the middle panel and you seee the message, working on the last panel now
 
I have an Idea for a Test for UA/UP. Drop both together and another ship jumps in and get scanned by the UA. If the UP is then triggered , WE have the Scanner Transceiver combination. Then WE Need to find the receiver.
 
Sorry just a quick brain wave on the issue of where Unknown Probes can be found outside of the convoys.

UAs - Hypothesis

If UAs are indeed a scouting/scanning party, as many of us have suggested, then their placement is important. The shell is a vast volume of space, but the range is *very* precise.

Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that they're searching for something that could move and which started out from Merope. Its speed was known, but the amount of time it travelled for, less so. Or vice versa. This would give you a region of space exactly in this shell shape - in which, if you had the means - you'd seed with scanners and listen for the lucky ones which said 'over here! over here!'.

So the placement of the artefacts around Merope was deliberate: what they were looking for was in that shell and can only have been in that shell, because that's where it started. They broadcast their location because that was their job ('reporting from here'), and they then scanned our ships because that's also their job - but not exclusively our ships. It's possible that our ships only served to confuse matters! ;)

UPs - Hypothesis

So, why the probes? The probes are more precise - with more capabilities (and perhaps produce less noise, because they don't scan our ships!) - but they're perhaps not focused on locations in space, but locations on a surface - because that's where what they were looking for has ended up. They're orbital surveyors.

The question is where would you deploy your more advanced probes? If you follow the same modus operandi as with the artefacts - then you'd deploy them where your lucky UAs which screamed 'over here! over here!' told you to.

So?

If correct - then unknown probes will found in the shell. But perhaps not in deep space - Unknown Artefacts have that covered - but around one or more planets or moons that have been deemed as good targets for the probes to do their work.

Problems

It might only be one planet or moon. But it's possible that either the UA offers a clue as to where; or perhaps more likely that the UP does.



Thoughts?

I can't rep you more. So consider yourself repped, re-repped, high-fived and huged
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Another little ditty of a theory.

Just a thought, dismiss or consider as you see fit. I think that if the image is describing how to find something or is a map of some sort or whatever. It is obvious you need a start point or a frame of reference with which to navigate from.

I'm not sure if this will help, but I've seen discussions that consider the sphere depicted as the planet and mentioning the difficulty in deciding which part of sphere you are looking at . . . so here goes . . . a theory.

The value of Pi is 3.14159 (5 decimal places), but can be reasonable rounded to 3.142 (3 deciaml places). Around the diagram we have the binary figures (travelling clockwise) 3,1,4,2.

Could this depict the orbital rotation of the sphere? This gives you a start point. Merope 5c is tidally locked, but it does rotate on it axis to face Merope 5. From one side of the axis Merope 5c will appear to rotate clockwise, from the otherside it would appear rotate anti clockwise . . . . . hey presto, a start point.

Cmdrs, this is only a theory, I'm just chucking ideas around that may be the key for someone else to have Ureka!!! moment

o7
 
I can't rep you more. So consider yourself repped, re-repped, high-fived and huged
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Awww shucks thanks!

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Solution!!!!!

The message is decoded by taking the left audio away from the right on the spectrogram.
the bottom left quadrant resolves into a .|. symbol at the top left of circle. Just need some better photo editing for a final pic

the middle lower panel resolves into
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OMG.

I've tried doing this subtraction before - by splitting the channels and inverting one then remixing. The result was very similar to the merged one.

Also - it would entirely depend on your orientation relative to the UP as to whether you'd even be able to do this in the first place no?

So, if it was to your left or right, then you wouldn't have an equal stereo mix to play with because: positional audio.
 
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I wrote a program to do what Nazgual suggested last night (before seeing his suggestion). The only source data I have is basically the front page. So I split out the animated gif into its 6 frames, and created new images using Minimum, Median and Mean (each is commonly used for image cleaning). There isn't as much improvement as I was hoping. For example I was hoping that the area to the right of the circle might reveal more detail, but no luck.
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An Imposter! I'll get him and his ideas.
If that´s the case, FD should have a good idea why an Alien´s lightyear is the same as our lightyear :) What a coincidence.

I was on the "if the line to 135 degrees is the radius of the UA-Bubble, then the 2 lines going away from the sphere is maybe the distance to the freefloaters" ... but hey...

Hmm, do you have a working hypothesis for showing alien light is moving at a different speed to our light? :D [I know you were referencing years not speed]
 
to reach Bow Nebula (and discover the secret of the universe) i used 14 jumponium effects at maximum capacity.
to do that i was forced to step back from the last available point of 'normal' jump and to harvest polonium and Ytritum
from planets that i found there.
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I was lucky enough to find them (thanks also to the recent update x3)
...and so i started the long jumps sequences....
I found some systems never discovered by anyone (where no man has gone before) and i proudly imprinted them with my cmdr name :)D )
But once i arrived to the Bow nebula itself (that is a planetary nebula)
ihFQM0L.png

i had a bad surprise: cmdr Maeve has been there already, before me.
He probably made a smarter road than mine and used a lot of less jumponium to reach this place.

Anyway NO signs of aliens, No signs of Unknown Probes.
No strange things, No unusual encounters.
No odd noises and no weird sounds..
A long long trip of nothing... nothing at all

what a pity.

now i'm back to Khun waiting for some other clues to be found and follow.
 
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Ever wonder if there haven't been a few people who already solved this or come across something else out there, but just haven't said anything?
I always like to think this is the case: like a few of the very successful entrepreneurs or polymaths from EVE.






This brings me around to a more on-topic question:
There is supposedly a way to listen to planets to tell what kind they are without scanning them. Has anyone who knows how to listen for this recorded the sounds of those planets within systems that have or had barnacles?
 
@Zoltan

Not to mean that he found anything but those two operations are not the same. While fourier transform is a linear operation you have to keep in mind that the phase information is lost on the spectrogram. Adding or subtracting two signals in time domain then looking at the final result on spectrogram woudnt be equal to adding or subtracting them on the spectrogram. For those two to be equal you should be inspecting the signals on the complex frequency domain, otherwise what you get on the spectrogram is the absolute magnitude of the transform.
 
Is it normal to get system Athority vessels in Unknown Artefact signal sources?

I droped into an UA signal source in ARIES DARK REGION ON-T C3-8

Picked up the probe, then out of the blue a system Athority linked to "no faction" comes in and scans me. The system has 0 population.
 
Is it normal to get system Athority vessels in Unknown Artefact signal sources?

I droped into an UA signal source in ARIES DARK REGION ON-T C3-8

Picked up the probe, then out of the blue a system Athority linked to "no faction" comes in and scans me. The system has 0 population.

It happens occasionally. Particularly in shell systems that are close to the bubble.
 
Has anyone tried honking a UP or UA while having a blown canopy?

Theory: a wave that results in an audible noise could potentially sound very different if it's not attenuated by the thick canopy & cabin atmosphere (and it's coded as such, obviously). Probe-to-human neural data transmission would also be more likely.

If this is a space-faring (semi-) biological entity, then it could require *direct* communication.
 
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This brings me around to a more on-topic question:
There is supposedly a way to listen to planets to tell what kind they are without scanning them. Has anyone who knows how to listen for this recorded the sounds of those planets within systems that have or had barnacles?

Resource: Object Scanner

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Sorry, didn't read fully.
The link provides generic examples that can be used for comparison.
 
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