UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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Just arrived there with Sterlino. Nothing there that we could see, but I had to log for dinner.

ok i am there with cmdr Gypsy, what we must expect exactly ?
atm i don't see anything at all.

If you've seen a POI just look around to verify that there is nothing visible to the eye to warrant the POI. It also may have shifted slightly, as it did when I had to restart. I saw it at 5km altitude and went down to 2km before it did what POIs normally do.

This was simply to rule out any data that may be corrupted. If the POI shows up at all and leads to nothing, more data is needed. Perhaps a UP-Emp. That would disrupt any machinery operating in the area, if it's hidden.
 
So the message means something different or is more complex than just that.

Keep in mind the previous 'riddle'/problem with the UA didn't result in a message, location, explanation, it only allowed us to see what it was doing. Scanning ships. The message the UP is coming up with is most likely doing the same thing. Its not scanning the shape of ships (probably) it could be scanning local bodies, systems, or even the insides of ships. The point is, the answer is probably what the UP is doing.

The random pattern means the values are independent of order. Or its dependent on order and what it is scanning is changing every six minutes. It may not be aspects of planets/bodies but it still could be identifying them in a way we haven't figured out yet. What we need, is a lot more samples. One recording isn't going to cut it.

If only these things were easier to find. A hundred of us all with sound samples might pull enough data to figure this out within a day or two.
 
come and enjoy the party whenever you want... i suspect it will be not a fast thing.

I hope to at least rule out the POI as a possible "hidden object". I'm of the mind that ruling out theories is more likely to expose the correct answer, rather than keep trying to prove something might be right.
The Cat In The Hat once said that to find where something is hidden, we must first find where that something is not. Wise words in this situation.
 
Hey everyone,

I found a convoy carrying a UP in LTT 1935, in the usual T4 Convoy Dispersal Beacon USS.
Pic: http://i.imgur.com/A39LDCf.jpg
I was unable to secure the UP, as I was in an AspE not rigged for combat. I had a wake scanner, and when the convoy jumped I followed it to Theotokos. While awaiting backup, the Python dropped at Meikle Settlement in Theotokos. Dropping in after it resulted in a connection error, dropping me at the main menu.

I'm now in a Python equipped with CRCRs, and will be actively searching for UPs in Ross 47 and other suspected systems.
 
For me this is the decider. If it sounds consistent across all systems then it just wants Merope.

If it sounds different then it is looking for somewhere. If THAT is the case then I think it is looking for a place to 'sing' so 'they' can find it, but we shall see.

I've listened to all of the recordings available so far, I am confident that the sequences of purrs are not fixed in audio, but are generated in some way by the game.

Whether that be at random, or whether they carry meaningful data, I don't know. But I find that interesting.
 
Opposite: - = LOW, l = HIGH
- - l l - - l l - l l - l l - - l l - l - - l l - l l - l - - l l - - l - l l - - l l - - l - l l - l - l - -

We should standardize on one notation, this is the one that DP and I had used last night; - being LOW, | being HIGH.

Obviously this is way too much data for a "single star" system if DP's theory is correct.

But I also find it interesting that this sequence doesn't match any of Vent's other recordings, even the three 3-minute sequences we have from NGC in the same audio file don't match each other.
 
UP recording from Single Star System can be found here.
Video file here.
Image of system here.

Courtesy of Vent! Thanks a lot!

EDIT:
Quick transcript of sounds. - = High, l = LOW. First Purr at around 30 seconds. Only about 4 minutes in Classified Camera, but that should be enough.

l l - - l l - - l - - l - - l l - - l - l l - - l - - l - l l - - l l - l - - l l - - l l - l - - l - l - l l

Opposite: - = LOW, l = HIGH
- - l l - - l l - l l - l l - - l l - l - - l l - l l - l - - l l - - l - l l - - l l - - l - l l - l - l - -

Great stuff. Data does not fit the theory, but we may have our start character.

I I - once again.

Needs more checking.
 
UP recording from Single Star System can be found here.
Video file here.
Image of system here.

Courtesy of Vent! Thanks a lot!

EDIT:
Quick transcript of sounds. - = High, l = LOW. First Purr at around 30 seconds. Only about 4 minutes in Classified Camera, but that should be enough.

l l - - l l - - l - - l - - l l - - l - l l - - l - - l - l l - - l l - l - - l l - - l l - l - - l - l - l l

Opposite: - = LOW, l = HIGH
- - l l - - l l - l l - l l - - l l - l - - l l - l l - l - - l l - - l - l l - - l l - - l - l l - l - l - -

Thanks 1.000.000 to you both!
So it seems some more brain work is needed...
 
I've listened to all of the recordings available so far, I am confident that the sequences of purrs are not fixed in audio, but are generated in some way by the game.

Whether that be at random, or whether they carry meaningful data, I don't know. But I find that interesting.

Well, that's one of the few things we know since the UA, where we already missed the meaning of the PURRS, if any.
However, yes, they are dynamically generated. They've always been.
RNG? Unknown yet. But I still think they have an explanation. Logic.
 
Great stuff. Data does not fit the theory, but we may have our start character.

I I - once again.

Needs more checking.

Use caution; Arguendo is using an inverse notation to those of us last night...

So where he wrote || we would have written --.

Maybe we should transcribe as ^ for high and o for low, to avoid making the assumption that it directly applies meaning to the UP image?

e.g. the single star system would be:

oo^^oo^^o^^o^^oo^^o^oo^^o^^o^oo^^oo^o^^oo^^oo^o^^o^o^oo

And Merope would be:

o^o^^oo^oo^oo^^o^oo^^o^^oo^o^^o^o^o^oo^^oo^oo^^oo^^oo^o^oo^^o^oo^o
 
I am probably saying something that has been said many times before, but then I must have missed it and it is probably at the top of the first page.
If the purrs are rendered as horizontal/vertical bars, it is more obvious that they can be thought of as encoding a ternary signal: the number of horizontal dashes between vertical bars being the digits:

l l - - l l - - l - - l - - l l - - l - l l - - l - - l - l l - - l l - l - - l l - - l l - l - - l - l - l l

would be

02022202102210201202012110
 
I think I have an idea to find the start of the UP signal.


Please check this video at this time: https://youtu.be/rdn2cRkoQMI?t=9

When on the debug camera, the player was able to record the UP just while it was sending the code to the ship, after the EMP. During these few moments it remained silent until its usual signal started again. So this leaves us with 2 options:

1) The signal was paused and continued in the same point after the "message" had been delivered to the ship.
2) The signal was silenced, and carried on until the "message" was sent and the volume was turned up.
3) The signal was restarted.


WE CAN EASILY CHECK THIS OUT.

Any cmdr with an UP, please honk it and record the sound it makes with the debug camera. If the 3rd option comes to be true, we should be hearing the same signal pattern whenever it restarts. It may be a good point to further analyze the signal.

o7 cmdrs! Carry on the good science!!
 
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Use caution; Arguendo is using an inverse notation to those of us last night...

So where he wrote || we would have written --.

Maybe we should transcribe as ^ for high and o for low, to avoid making the assumption that it directly applies meaning to the UP image?

e.g. the single star system would be:

oo^^oo^^o^^o^^oo^^o^oo^^o^^o^oo^^oo^o^^oo^^oo^o^^o^o^oo

And Merope would be:

o^o^^oo^oo^oo^^o^oo^^o^^oo^o^^o^o^o^oo^^oo^oo^^oo^^oo^o^oo^^o^oo^o

Thanks. I was reading the numbers in a later post.

Your notation is better. Lets keep it. :)
 
I am probably saying something that has been said many times before, but then I must have missed it and it is probably at the top of the first page.
If the purrs are rendered as horizontal/vertical bars, it is more obvious that they can be thought of as encoding a ternary signal: the number of horizontal dashes between vertical bars being the digits:

l l - - l l - - l - - l - - l l - - l - l l - - l - - l - l l - - l l - l - - l l - - l l - l - - l - l - l l

would be

02022202102210201202012110

We're going with the assumption that the symbols around the edge of the UP image are binary 3-bit patterns.
 
I think I have an idea to find the start of the UP signal.


Please check this video at this time: https://youtu.be/rdn2cRkoQMI?t=9

When on the debug camera, the player was able to record the UP just while it was sending the code to the ship, after the EMP. During these few moments it remained silent until its usual signal started again. So this leaves us with 2 options:

1) The signal was paused and continued in the same point after the "message" had been delivered to the ship.
2) The signal was silenced, and carried on until the "message" was sent and the volume was turned up.
3) The signal was restarted.


WE CAN EASILY CHECK THIS OUT.

Any cmdr with an UP, please honk it and record the sound it makes with the debug camera. If the 3rd option comes to be true, we should be hearing the same signal pattern whenever it restarts. It may be a good point to further analyze the signal.

o7 cmdrs! Carry on the good science!!

Yes. This.

As I have said before. The 'message' might not even start until we honk the UP.
 
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