UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

[Stillsober]

yeah, the planets between the bubble and the shell have hundreds of players going through them all the time, someone would have stumbled on the UP "Hive" by now if it was there.

I think they're in the "permit" systems near Witch-head/Orion. Hey, maybe the sonic-image is a "key" that gets us into the permit systems... but how *scratches head*

I had the same thought. So I went around Barnards loop and permit locked systems. But I couldn't find a way in. Maybe if someone has a better range they could. I also still think it's a key to access behind the cordon of permit locked systems but I couldn't find a way through.
Trust me aswell these systems are now harder to access than they were before.

maybe someone with more time could do a more in depth look i just don't have the time to be thorough.

 

[Krewzur]

If it's a key, and we are looking for a lock. What about Permit Locked systems? Could this be pointing to a specific system that is currently locked? maybe having one on board will open the system.

That's what myself and Niamhy were saying just a few posts ago. I'm sure its been mentioned already a few times.

 

[TheDayman]

This is a really awesome picture - I found my new wallpaper

I also noticed that the cell-like body of the UP is the same as the cell-like head of the UP (like, exactly the same down to the T). Someone else "connected the dots" and it looks vaguely like a galaxy map.

I then checked the UA and guess what - it's the same exact "cell" shape as the UP (apart from one being bluish green and the other pinkish-red). The "cells" match up exactly. I wonder if it is a galaxy map and the red lines are some type of hyperspace lanes? I mean, there were things hidden in the sound, why not the textures?

Edit: This person "connected the dots" - it really does look like a galaxy map. And as someone else pointed out (gotta start remembering names), why would you use a land based map when trying to find someone in a galaxy? You'd be much better off with stars.

Does anyone have an image and the know-how to overlay the galaxy map onto this image (or a better image of the UP/UA's cell-structure) to see if it lines up at all? Or am I barking up the wrong tree?

 

[esxste]

meh. someone beat me to my question.

 

[TheDayman]

MOUNT UP! I REPEAT! MOUNT UP! GET YOUR COMBAT SHIP! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIGHCoVzqtk THE EMPIRE AND THE FEDERATION ARE AT WAR!!!! https://community.elitedangerous.com/communitygoals

Wow, that's crazy. I actually kind of side with the Empire on this one. There's just something about the Feds that seems really wrong here - like they know more then everyone else and are refusing to let us in...

 

[Arenis]

You can get UP's from convoys. Its just the free floating UP's that we cant find.

There is no convoys at all...
According to MB, it's not the easiest way to find them ...

 

[CMDR Tokhashi]

I've been thinking about this mystery and going over the information we have already to figure out     is going on and I may have some insight that has already been mentioned but worthy of investigation IMO.

So we know that finding the UP convoys was an "accident" of sorts, and that we were supposed to find the UPs in space first. This leads me to believe that we missed a clue somewhere to figure out where the UPs are being generated. Where that clue may be is beyond me, although it may only be logic based on the UA positioning/near barnacles. As for the sonic imagery found with the UP, I think that it is simply the next clue as to where to go next (just as the UAs pointed us to Merope where we found the barnacles). *puts on tin foil hat and suit* That being a crashed alien ship. *takes off tin foil* We know that UA/UPs are space based, and barnacles are planet based. What is to say that just as the UAs pointed us to something planet-side, the UPs might point us to something similar? From a simplistic perspective of the sonic image we got, I want to say that the corner symbols (-|-, -||, |--, --|) are related to the inner symbols in the context of a beacon for said crashed ship. How those are related is hurting my head to figure out right now, that why I need to share it.

So where do we search? I say different Nebulas as they have been hinted at being important. Also I think we need to investigate tip offs more thoroughly, with UPs aboard our ships and audio recording software ready to go.

With that, I'm off to go get myself an upgraded cargo hold and find a convoy to take down. Best of luck commanders o7

 

[Irons]

The test of having a UP on board and jumping to a permit locked system has been tested. Please see page one.

I asked this question before and can't see a response on 'the page that must be read'. I know we've attempted jumps to a locked system with an UP on board, but was this done pre or post honk? Have we tried to get into one of the locked systems after the ship systems have rebooted?

I am looking for an UP to test it myself, but just want to eliminate it from my own list of tests to conduct when I get one (if possible). I still stand by / have hope that the transmission is a software update. My theory behind this is the crashed ships that sometimes have the message that talks about a firmware update that has stopped partway through. The crash is probably due to having a large piece of rock giving them a hug prior to update completing, but could be a by-product of the pulse.

I dunno...I'm rambling, its been a hard day.

 

[Nagual]

There is no convoys at all...
According to MB, it's not the easiest way to find them ...

There are convoys, but they are exceedingly rare. Someone found one the other day.

 

[Mr_beeps]

I asked this question before and can't see a response on 'the page that must be read'. I know we've attempted jumps to a locked system with an UP on board, but was this done pre or post honk? Have we tried to get into one of the locked systems after the ship systems have rebooted?

I am looking for an UP to test it myself, but just want to eliminate it from my own list of tests to conduct when I get one (if possible). I still stand by / have hope that the transmission is a software update. My theory behind this is the crashed ships that sometimes have the message that talks about a firmware update that has stopped partway through. The crash is probably due to having a large piece of rock giving them a hug prior to update completing, but could be a by-product of the pulse.

I dunno...I'm rambling, its been a hard day.

somewhere on that first page is a spreadsheet with the various UP tests and their results (I know it can be hard to find). Specifically regarding attempting post-honk I don't know but I would presume yes, since there weren't very many UP to begin with.

 

[CMDR Davanix]

The test of having a UP on board and jumping to a permit locked system has been tested. Please see page one.

This test was done yes, however nobody can say it isn't a possible thing unless it has been tested on every permit locked system in the game. That i know is a huge time hog and would take longer than the next clue to surface however it does not mean that is not still a testable theory just because only a couple of systems where tested. For all we know the system could be in the next clue and we must do exactly this to enter it

 

[knowles2]

The test of having a UP on board and jumping to a permit locked system has been tested. Please see page one.

That doesn't mean it not the answer, it could mean that it wasn't use at the right permit locked system.

 

[Irons]

Spoiler

somewhere on that first page is a spreadsheet with the various UP tests and their results (I know it can be hard to find). Specifically regarding attempting post-honk I don't know but I would presume yes, since there weren't very many UP to begin with.

Thankyou

 

[NetSlayer]

Just going to throw my 2 cents in. Away from all the usual experimental + data stuff.

Occam's razor.

I think mythology binary, decoding and maths are being used too soon.
Perhaps they should be looked at long after some base elements of the mystery are recognised.

Some statements after removing some complexity..

UA:
- Generally blue/aqua tone
- The UA points to a system slightly off-center from a nebula.
- Ua's are found in a sphere like shape with this system at it's center.
- The UA's Head points at this system
- Within the system the UA's head points at the star.
- UA's transmit morse to our ships,
- The morse currently outputs a drawing of our ship.

We still haven't figured out why it's doing that by the way, what is the intention?
[slight complexity] What else 'points' that we could compare this action to? Could this overall action be some kind of compass?
Does the blue tone have relation to the systems star which is also blue?


(Note I'm leaving some details out on purpose)

Barnacles:
- generally green tone
- Barnacles have been found in and around nebulae, so far.
- Barnacles, when broken, provide meta alloys
- Pirates spotted with meta alloys in hold
- Barnacles are sometimes protected by turrets
- Some barnacles are being overlooked by capital ships
- Barnacle signal yet to be broken, usually three tones and a howling/drilling sound.


UPs
- Generally reddish tone
- Have the head of a UA and also a second smaller head
- The two heads are not aligned, one is offset.
- The large head points to a landable planet within the same system that the UA points to.
- The landable planet that the UP points to is the last landable planet within that system
- The UP is found in convoys, NPCs speak of orbital testing.

Is the reddish tone significant?
In what way is orbital testing relevant?
Does having 2 heads imply something?
Does having 1 head smaller than the other mean something?
Perhaps the planet the UAs point to isn't significant, just the meta of that planet...
-It's the third moon from a star with rings
-The ringed star is the 5th furthest object from the major star.

Finally the transmission:
- distinct elements in the center
- -|-, -||, |-- and --| surround a sphere.
- To the top left of the sphere there is an arc a short distance away from the edge of the sphere
- to the right, 2 short arcs face the sphere
- To the bottom left 2 lines are outside the sphere from the edge outwards.
- To the bottom right one line is inside the sphere, from the center to the edge.
- Sphere generally looks similar to our hud compass
- Other less distinct elements nearby

Is it the right way round?
If you were to take angles, from where would you take them from?
What is significant about the spherical shape? is there anything familiar to it?
What else can be described or visualised as 3 parts? (|--)


That's all I've got simplification wise. I think we might have been overthinking it for too long. I hope this precursor application of Occam's razor is refreshing...

o7

 

[Surl Tesh-echer]

Question: Is there any further information expected from "new" Unknown Probes?


MB answer: Sort of - different would be more accurate.

So maybe we still have to obtain something more "accurate" from what UP generates? It would be easier to determine what are we looking for.

 

[DialBforBiscuit]

So maybe we still have to obtain something more "accurate" from what UP generates? It would be easier to determine what are we looking for.

Finding free floaters should be our first priority. The key thing makes the scenario confusing. Different information should clear things up, but there are two camps of thought. the key leads you to free floaters which provide another set of information, or the free floaters contain more data that makes sense when Paired with the key. Either way, finding free floaters is mandatory at this point.

 

[CMDR Carbo]

The sonic image is a key.

Michael

Oops.
Unfortunately we can't find the key anymore.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[CMDR Engalo]

The big problem with the UP image is that there is no repeating pattern/symbol, That's the thing making it really hard, if not impossible to decipher.

 

[Arguendo]

So we know that finding the UP convoys was an "accident" of sorts, and that we were supposed to find the UPs in space first.

Nobody has said that we "should have found the Free Floaters first". Sandro remarked something about getting UPs from convoys was the hard way, and MB has said something similar. They have never afaik said that we found them in the "wrong order."

I asked this question before and can't see a response on 'the page that must be read'. I know we've attempted jumps to a locked system with an UP on board, but was this done pre or post honk? Have we tried to get into one of the locked systems after the ship systems have rebooted?

This is exactly what RiZ@L was trying to do when he honked it and it replied. He was trying to access the COL 27 sector with the UP on board. That is the major reason he was there afaik, and the honking came as a secondary thing. So, it has atleast been tried in the COL 70 Sector that is permit locked.

 

[Han_Zen]

Wow, that's crazy. I actually kind of side with the Empire on this one. There's just something about the Feds that seems really wrong here - like they know more then everyone else and are refusing to let us in...

They don't belong here. Suporting one of them is like helping one of the thieves fighting over your TV in your living room.

They all need to leave. The Pleiades belongs to us. The explorers, the scientists, the smuglers and even the aliens. Not to them.