Good work cmdr.
Should you find yourself near Soontill, source of Soontill Relics.. perhaps something there?
UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn
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Should you find yourself near Soontill, source of Soontill Relics.. perhaps something there?Sighted UP at Ross 47 (in Python hold, message read "Keep security tight, no more losses." USS - Convoy L4. Could not get it with my Conda and got shot to piecies(( Need to respec and will try again. (More Shield Boosters)
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I was also tipsy
.These tests (which I haven't had time to look at, and won't be able to till Monday) ar set up to check the audio between the 3 locations mentioned.
I am not expecting them to have the exact sequence of audio. We already know that the UP doesn't broadcast the same order/sequence in certain locations. *however* could it be broadcasting the same parts in a scrambled order?
These tests aren't perfect as the UP has to be scooped so we will always clip the end of the audio. The UP was scooped after 5% for each of these. Though I'm sure you can hear thrusters near the end.
I'd suggest breaking it up into groups of 3 and taking the same length for both of the audio from each location even if that means clipping it a bit short. It won't line up 100% in triplets as we are missing a bit but the majority should IF there is the same message in a scrambled order.
When I can ill examine and share my findings but please examine it from the angle of "same but scrambled" ...
/Lurk off
I've been following the UP discoveries with interest, and been coming up with half a dozen different ideas as to what the sonic image might mean. I hope I'm not repeating anyone else's ideas; while I've read page 1 and large chunks of this threadnaut, you can't always remember everything.
It has been noted by a few people that after the 'key' image is another warped image that looks like the top-right quadrant of the 'key' image. It seems telling the picture-producing audio is long enough to include this, and that that image is aligned in the centre and alongside the 'key' image.
This makes me think: the 'key' image is a table of the four possible things the UP can report.
The image that follows, is what the UP is reporting.
Presuming the four quadrants of the 'key' image are pictograms of reportable activities, the top-right quadrant looks awfully like an object on the receiving end of a transmission, like a radar ping.
The image could mean that the UP has detected a Discovery Scanner being used. My idea being: the UP isn't responding to being scanned, but rather that it's detected a scanner and is reporting it.
Of course, to test and prove this idea we'd need to find 3 other activities that make the UP respond with a report that would contain a different image after the 'key' image it will always send.
I'd imagine (from what MB has said) they'd all be things we can do in space, and if right, I'm sure all the existing experimenting will determine what they are eventually.
I wish we knew where the UPs are in the wild, it'd make testing a lot easier. I'm off to try and find them.
/Lurk on
I've been following the UP discoveries with interest, and been coming up with half a dozen different ideas as to what the sonic image might mean. I hope I'm not repeating anyone else's ideas; while I've read page 1 and large chunks of this threadnaut, you can't always remember everything.
It has been noted by a few people that after the 'key' image is another warped image that looks like the top-right quadrant of the 'key' image. It seems telling the picture-producing audio is long enough to include this, and that that image is aligned in the centre and alongside the 'key' image.
This makes me think: the 'key' image is a table of the four possible things the UP can report.
The image that follows, is what the UP is reporting.
Presuming the four quadrants of the 'key' image are pictograms of reportable activities, the top-right quadrant looks awfully like an object on the receiving end of a transmission, like a radar ping.
The image could mean that the UP has detected a Discovery Scanner being used. My idea being: the UP isn't responding to being scanned, but rather that it's detected a scanner and is reporting it.
Of course, to test and prove this idea we'd need to find 3 other activities that make the UP respond with a report that would contain a different image after the 'key' image it will always send.
I'd imagine (from what MB has said) they'd all be things we can do in space, and if right, I'm sure all the existing experimenting will determine what they are eventually.
I wish we knew where the UPs are in the wild, it'd make testing a lot easier. I'm off to try and find them.
/Lurk on
Something just occurred to me. Has anyone thought to analyze the sounds made at engineer bases, particularly Martuuk's or Palin's? It's been shown that capitol ships give off viable spectrographic data, so why not those bases? Both have known interest in aliens, so I think it's worth checking out.
Not random.
For the UA MB said Convoys spawned in some regions of the bubble. I think for the UP it's the same.
Also this, yes. Possible.
Check Darniell Progress in Maia. I bough mine there, when Barnacles were bugged
By that logic I would read different
bottom right would read mode 1 -> i point to something
top left mode 2 -> I was pinged (scanner)
top right mode 3 -> i send some (emp?)
bottom left mode 4 -> ??? no idea yet
edit: as i assumed Number position represents UP, reference of mode is from Mode number to the pictogram representing ?space? in that case mode 4 could mean "split continuum" -> Black Hole jump ?
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So many bugs with the UPs, does that mean they must be Thargoid... ?
sorry this is driving me crazy, not enough clues to go on, or UPs to test with, just speculations.
Ill keep lurking but i sort of give up, ill check back when you guys find a solution. ^_^
No offence but after so long without being able to participate in-game myself for lack of Probes i am loosing interest in this, and by the amount of digressions in the thread i guess im not the only one.
Its not my place to say perhaps, but i would suggest FD at least give a proper tip on where to find UPs so people can keep being involved, and we can perhaps still in 2016 move from this mystery to the next ...
GL everyone, im sure you'll crack it eventually, stay strong.
ill go fetch me a Clipper in the meanwhile, see you out there
o7
sorry this is driving me crazy, not enough clues to go on, or UPs to test with, just speculations.
Ill keep lurking but i sort of give up, ill check back when you guys find a solution. ^_^
No offence but after so long without being able to participate in-game myself for lack of Probes i am loosing interest in this, and by the amount of digressions in the thread i guess im not the only one.
Its not my place to say perhaps, but i would suggest FD at least give a proper tip on where to find UPs so people can keep being involved, and we can perhaps still in 2016 move from this mystery to the next ...
GL everyone, im sure you'll crack it eventually, stay strong.
ill go fetch me a Clipper in the meanwhile, see you out there
o7
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Again probably old news but the two convoy beacons at Merope 5c.
Just hopped into one to see a wing of 3, 1 Federal Corvette and 2 F63 Condors. (love that we are now seeing Condor wings Not so keen on the NPC Corvette =p )
Corvette carrying meta-alloy, only two, the buggers no doubt shooting up barnacles.
Corvette jumped the 8.12LY to HR 1183 leaving the Condors behind, I followed, in HR 1183 the dude piled into the star. =p
Just hopped into one to see a wing of 3, 1 Federal Corvette and 2 F63 Condors. (love that we are now seeing Condor wings
Not so keen on the NPC Corvette =p )Corvette carrying meta-alloy, only two, the buggers no doubt shooting up barnacles.
Corvette jumped the 8.12LY to HR 1183 leaving the Condors behind, I followed, in HR 1183 the dude piled into the star. =p
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Just thought I should let someone here know, I think I have found what I think is a new barnacle in Pleiades Sector IH-V c2-16 on planet D2.
Tried editing the spreadsheet here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...HpjYGeZL9GHQ/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=2051045286
but is seems I need permission
Anyway coordinates are:
Lat 0.4310
Long. 143.1321
It has 11 large spikes, none intact plus a very small one which is intact.
It is near the Imperial TII Research Facility and has an imperial class capital ship (INV ANDERS BLANE) stationed above it which is what attracted me here.
Here are some images:
View of Barney:
Located here:
Being guarded by this imperial capital class ship:
Ship directly above the barnacle:
Tried editing the spreadsheet here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...HpjYGeZL9GHQ/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=2051045286
but is seems I need permission
Anyway coordinates are:
Lat 0.4310
Long. 143.1321
It has 11 large spikes, none intact plus a very small one which is intact.
It is near the Imperial TII Research Facility and has an imperial class capital ship (INV ANDERS BLANE) stationed above it which is what attracted me here.
Here are some images:
View of Barney:
Located here:
Being guarded by this imperial capital class ship:
Ship directly above the barnacle:
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I tested without jump, this does not cause a UP broadcast.
1) ADS honk
2) Deploy UP
3) No broadcast
Good work cmdr.
there are large black building on Soontil, with skimmers guarding them. maybe try dropping an artifact/probe near one of these and honking it
(I realise they are probably pirate bases or something, but... I think the Soontil relics may have some significance in this.)
Heh I've been mulling over this very idea today, but hit the same issue with it as you, I can come up with no alternative means of interrogating the UP.
Have you tried talking to it Bit? Using the comms system? I had a thought (which I tested with UA's to no avail) of sending random numbers and letters through comms to try and get a response in the hope I could teach it the alphabet or numbers 1-0.
Here's a solid 20 minutes of UP audio if anyone's interested in this side of it.
It's how a free-floater would sound I think. It was gathered by dropping a UP on Merope 5c, where it won't degrade.
Original: https://soundcloud.com/bitstorm-1/unknown-probe-20-minutes
5x speed: https://soundcloud.com/bitstorm-1/unknown-probe-20-minutes-x5-speed
10x speed: https://soundcloud.com/bitstorm-1/unknown-probe-20-minutes-x10-speed
But I listen to this and hear the same lack of triple as the UA so can't help thinking it will be just as fruitless.
Also it looks like the UP has two light sources.
The main external one but another ambient one, it's kinda odd. Like when the UP is on the surface you can see a red light flashing independently to the main head light. Maybe it's just there to create the lit dustcloud effect or something.
It's how a free-floater would sound I think. It was gathered by dropping a UP on Merope 5c, where it won't degrade.
Original: https://soundcloud.com/bitstorm-1/unknown-probe-20-minutes
5x speed: https://soundcloud.com/bitstorm-1/unknown-probe-20-minutes-x5-speed
10x speed: https://soundcloud.com/bitstorm-1/unknown-probe-20-minutes-x10-speed
But I listen to this and hear the same lack of triple as the UA so can't help thinking it will be just as fruitless.
Also it looks like the UP has two light sources.
The main external one but another ambient one, it's kinda odd. Like when the UP is on the surface you can see a red light flashing independently to the main head light. Maybe it's just there to create the lit dustcloud effect or something.
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I've found these audio tracks in stations that hold no Black Market, and no history of ever having one that I can find. So, I don't think they are related to being UA bombed, as you can't bomb a station if you can't sell them there
They are also found in some outposts, near the large antennae that sticks out from it.
No viable theory has emerged from them, and I personally don't think there's anything there. That doesn't mean others shouldn't keep working them if they think there is, just look at the history of jmanis and the morse code.
Thanks for this. It his however not what a Free Floater would sound like, first of all because there should be no wails in that audio. And, we have no way of knowing whether the audio will produce something more (or different as per MB) from a Free Floater than one that has been "captured". Until we have a UP FF, we really can't say what it will sound like. We only know what a "captured UP" sounds like...pretty much everywhere imaginable
Your work on this UP is really appreciated! Many, many thanks!
That reminds me; is this the only UP currently in "existance"? The community had a few more a few days, or a week ago, but no test results have come out of any of those. Are they lost again?
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