So you want to know about the Formidine Rift? (Part 3)

Somewhat, yes. It's either they're fighting there because of the view because it has a significant message OR they're fighting over something else in Rebecca's memory "a dark green hued ship, almost silhouetted against the stars". Like I said though the lighting plays a large role. If you go at the wrong time the images are very hard to make out. The more green it is the better from what I've seen.

Mate, can I suggest you simply post a screenshot? Some of us (me included) are very far away from Merope. I think it would be a great start in investigating what you're seeing if you could share this with everyone here, using more than words.
 
Mate, can I suggest you simply post a screenshot? Some of us (me included) are very far away from Merope. I think it would be a great start in investigating what you're seeing if you could share this with everyone here, using more than words.

Sure, give me a sec, I just shutdown for the night. These are all going to be unaltered, so they may be dark, but if anyone wants to mess with them to bring out the details be my guest.
 
As I've said the screen shots don't do these images justice so I highly encourage going and seeing for oneself. I'll post them in order from oldest to newest and give a brief description of what I saw. Please use zoom or full screen if you can.

1. Felinoid on left, dove holding olive branch outlined top middle, another entity on the right, in the middle is a smaller felinoid (depicted in profile) pointing at the star with it's nose.
QzbVdLK.png


2. Same view, a day or so later, not much change from what I can see.
QHjieOG.png


3. View of the same nebula after jumping to the system the felinoid was pointing to. Older appearing Felinoid face in center. And something to the left, not sure yet.
DrghRxD.png


4.Far left; dark haired man kissing a women.
YVcLoii.png


5. This is the nebula from where the Feds and Imps are fighting. Man's face smiling top middle, left middle lighter image of man smiling and a strange circular object to the left of him. Old school boat top right. Pay attention to the smiling face, it will have more details above it next screen shot.
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6. Smiling man a day or so later. Now has a object beside him that looks like an old lunar lander. Again boat far right. Left of face is the witchhead nebula I believe showing through. (Didn't check to see if it was the actual witchhead's or a depiction of it.
PmqyUvo.png


This isn't all I've seen, just a few of the times I remembered to take screens. Again if anyone can edit them to make the images appear, go for it. Even if you can't see the images, look at the amount of geometrical shapes present in gases.
Please see for yourselves. The backside of the first image is distorted today last I checked. I haven't gotten the timing down or best location to view from in that system. Thank you for your careful perusal.
 
Just came back from a trip to the edge of the Rift. Nothing really popped out, except a couple of slightly weird things:

EAFOTS NT-I d9-26 is a 14 million year old T Tauri star with an earthlike world and an ammonia world. Nothing noteworthy about them except that in real life a 14 million year old star could absolutely not have naturally occurring biospheres in it's system. Of course, it could be that this is just a oversight in the E:D procedural algorithm.

A few jumps into the rift from the EAFOTS systems, the navigation tool and galactic map get a bit wonky - oftentimes I would have systems within jump range in map mode, but they would not show up in the navigation panel, nor could I plot a route through them. I could however target them in map mode and then jump. Again I have no idea of this means anything or if it's just a glitch in the matrix.

Loads of earthlikes that way if someone wants to go check. Buyer beware - the above is probably nothing, but if you've run out of clues go snoop around NT-I d9-26.
 
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Now i dont quite understand what your saying, but will swing by Merope on the way home to see. But i can't help feeling if all we are going to find out here is a picture of a bunny in the nebula, then some of us will be kinda annoyed as we have been led 7.5K LY out of the bubble down to the story the old woman gave of something that is out here, that is "trouble" more trouble possibly than the Thargoids. Now this is fine but i am unsure how shapes and pictures, no matter how amazing they are, could ever be much trouble, unless of course it is a signed confession for the Kennedy assassination :D

WHAT?? Roger Rabbit did it?
 
As I've said the screen shots don't do these images justice so I highly encourage going and seeing for oneself. I'll post them in order from oldest to newest and give a brief description of what I saw. Please use zoom or full screen if you can.

1. Felinoid on left, dove holding olive branch outlined top middle, another entity on the right, in the middle is a smaller felinoid (depicted in profile) pointing at the star with it's nose.
http://i.imgur.com/QzbVdLK.png

2. Same view, a day or so later, not much change from what I can see.
http://i.imgur.com/QHjieOG.png

3. View of the same nebula after jumping to the system the felinoid was pointing to. Older appearing Felinoid face in center. And something to the left, not sure yet.
http://i.imgur.com/DrghRxD.png

4.Far left; dark haired man kissing a women.
http://i.imgur.com/YVcLoii.png

5. This is the nebula from where the Feds and Imps are fighting. Man's face smiling top middle, left middle lighter image of man smiling and a strange circular object to the left of him. Old school boat top right. Pay attention to the smiling face, it will have more details above it next screen shot.
http://i.imgur.com/71cmdQf.png

6. Smiling man a day or so later. Now has a object beside him that looks like an old lunar lander. Again boat far right. Left of face is the witchhead nebula I believe showing through. (Didn't check to see if it was the actual witchhead's or a depiction of it.
http://i.imgur.com/PmqyUvo.png

This isn't all I've seen, just a few of the times I remembered to take screens. Again if anyone can edit them to make the images appear, go for it. Even if you can't see the images, look at the amount of geometrical shapes present in gases.
Please see for yourselves. The backside of the first image is distorted today last I checked. I haven't gotten the timing down or best location to view from in that system. Thank you for your careful perusal.

It is interesting how humanoids decide they see imaginary shapes in cloud formations and other works of nature based on their own psyche.... besides, it is clearly a bunny rabbit.
 
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Ok I've tried to see what you're seeing, but frankly, I got nothing. Well that's not completely correct. I think I can make out what you call the 'smiling man', particularly in images 4 and 5.
HOWEVER, I strongly suspect this is a case of - as the term has now been brought up we seem to find many good applications for it - pareidolia.

I mean, don't get me wrong - any guess is as good as mine, and any new avenue that can be explored (and, potentially, excluded) is great.

What is everyone's opinion?
 
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As I've said the screen shots don't do these images justice so I highly encourage going and seeing for oneself. I'll post them in order from oldest to newest and give a brief description of what I saw. Please use zoom or full screen if you can.

1. Felinoid on left, dove holding olive branch outlined top middle, another entity on the right, in the middle is a smaller felinoid (depicted in profile) pointing at the star with it's nose.
http://i.imgur.com/QzbVdLK.png

2. Same view, a day or so later, not much change from what I can see.
http://i.imgur.com/QHjieOG.png

3. View of the same nebula after jumping to the system the felinoid was pointing to. Older appearing Felinoid face in center. And something to the left, not sure yet.
http://i.imgur.com/DrghRxD.png

4.Far left; dark haired man kissing a women.
http://i.imgur.com/YVcLoii.png

5. This is the nebula from where the Feds and Imps are fighting. Man's face smiling top middle, left middle lighter image of man smiling and a strange circular object to the left of him. Old school boat top right. Pay attention to the smiling face, it will have more details above it next screen shot.
http://i.imgur.com/71cmdQf.png

6. Smiling man a day or so later. Now has a object beside him that looks like an old lunar lander. Again boat far right. Left of face is the witchhead nebula I believe showing through. (Didn't check to see if it was the actual witchhead's or a depiction of it.
http://i.imgur.com/PmqyUvo.png

This isn't all I've seen, just a few of the times I remembered to take screens. Again if anyone can edit them to make the images appear, go for it. Even if you can't see the images, look at the amount of geometrical shapes present in gases.
Please see for yourselves. The backside of the first image is distorted today last I checked. I haven't gotten the timing down or best location to view from in that system. Thank you for your careful perusal.

This is exactly like going outside and seeing shapes in the clouds.
 
Ok I've tried to see what you're seeing, but frankly, I got nothing. Well that's not completely correct. I think I can make out what you call the 'smiling man', particularly in images 4 and 5.
HOWEVER, I strongly suspect this is a case of - as the term has now been brought up we seem to find many good applications for it - pareidolia.

I mean, don't get me wrong - any guess is as good as mine, and any new avenue that can be explored (and, potentially, excluded) is great.

What is everyone's opinion?

I gave it a go, and I thought I could make out the man and woman but that was only when I really tried to see it. When I just look at the pic I see a dolphin on the left and a rabbit on the right. The other images I couldn't make out, apologies CMDR Zulu but I have to go with pareidolia.
 
my tinfoil hat says maybe we get in 2.2 or 2.3 meteors and comets so that we can see movements of stars, because I believe we search for a cluster of stars(many ships) that have slow movements in the sky and that is difficult to spot.
 
Ok I've tried to see what you're seeing, but frankly, I got nothing. Well that's not completely correct. I think I can make out what you call the 'smiling man', particularly in images 4 and 5.
HOWEVER, I strongly suspect this is a case of - as the term has now been brought up we seem to find many good applications for it - pareidolia.

I mean, don't get me wrong - any guess is as good as mine, and any new avenue that can be explored (and, potentially, excluded) is great.

What is everyone's opinion?

I originally thought pareidolia when he was reporting seeing faces in the UP sonogram, now I suspect trolling.
 
I originally thought pareidolia when he was reporting seeing faces in the UP sonogram, now I suspect trolling.

He has the right idea of looking out for visual anomalies, but it's in the wrong area.

Merope is connected to the UA only (as far as we know), so looking there for Formidine rift stuff is unlikely to produce results.
 
Let's get back on track here...

1) The Old Lady isn't/wasn't senile - she's had her memory wiped, on more than one occasion. She might have been old, but she was still sharp as a pin. Thinking she's trying to give clues but somehow send people on the wrong track is incorrect, in my opinion - she's had her brains scrambled a few times and the result is a mish-mash of vague hints and clues, which we're all trying to make some sense of.

2) Forget patterns/faces/Mickey Mouse in the nebulas. Just don't. The Thing we're looking for may be visual - and it may be spectacular, but I doubt it's going to be a case of seeing faces in nebulae.

3) Assume for now that the Barnacles/UA/UP/Merope stuff is unconnected with the Rift, until we know better. So far, there has been nothing concrete to suggest they are connected. At. All.

My gut feeling is that we have still to uncover some clues which have probably been exisiting in-game for a while now. Drew has mentioned, for example, that the Dark Wheel play a part in this Rift stuff. I have been Allied to the Dark Wheel for quite some time now, and was poking around Shinrarta Dezhra (who came up with that goddamned name anyway it's awful to type :) ) for a while, even noticing one or two things about a DW base there, before moving on to other things as the Rift story was in limbo for a bit. I may go back there and have another poke around.

The other line of enquiry should be Tionisla, which is where the Old Lady is buried in her ship in the ship graveyard (which isn't officially in the game - yet).

As others have stated frequently, a reminder to Read The First Few Posts In This Thread Before Presenting Your Latest Theory.

Regards o7
 
Just came back from a trip to the edge of the Rift. Nothing really popped out, except a couple of slightly weird things:

EAFOTS NT-I d9-26 is a 14 million year old T Tauri star with an earthlike world and an ammonia world. Nothing noteworthy about them except that in real life a 14 million year old star could absolutely not have naturally occurring biospheres in it's system. Of course, it could be that this is just a oversight in the E:D procedural algorithm.

A few jumps into the rift from the EAFOTS systems, the navigation tool and galactic map get a bit wonky - oftentimes I would have systems within jump range in map mode, but they would not show up in the navigation panel, nor could I plot a route through them. I could however target them in map mode and then jump. Again I have no idea of this means anything or if it's just a glitch in the matrix.

Loads of earthlikes that way if someone wants to go check. Buyer beware - the above is probably nothing, but if you've run out of clues go snoop around NT-I d9-26.


That's exactly like I was talking about, Hukka. Some areas wouldn't plot. Now if you go through some systems where you're orbit lines ago away too you've hit the same stuff I was talking about.
 
That is a different London treaty. The Galnet article says this one was signed in 3278.

Yes, and I imagine that they used the same name in order to make a direct historical comparison.

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I did so, and we never hit the rocks. But I do wonder...

It has always been about working with the eye. Is there something that we have missed?

Almost certainly!

Probably more than one thing, to boot!
 
Whatever this is is enormous.
It is likely that it is either some sort of evidence of intelligent design on a galactic scale, whole solar systems and nebulae forming an arranged and obvious visual anomaly. One that stands out from the normal visual noise of the galaxy...or a structure (alien, or otherwise) that spans huge stretches of space, such that it can be seen when we look back and see sections silhouetted against the background light.

Some kind of stellar engineering - or even just planetary engineering is certainly the kind of thing that I'm trying to keep an eye out for.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale

It needs to be unambiguous to a degree, though. Vague pictures of cats or images only visible from one location and relying on conjunctions of massively separated stars isn't going to cut it to my mind. A debris field the size of a system, nicely lined up planets with the same orbital period, an entire system of earth-likes, stellar systems arranged into a sphere formation, other stellar formations clearly observable and 'suspicious', no star field visible ("am I inside a Dyson sphere?")... all on the list of things to look out for. Basically anything that sets of mental alarm bells.
 
Let's get back on track here...

1) The Old Lady isn't/wasn't senile - she's had her memory wiped, on more than one occasion. She might have been old, but she was still sharp as a pin. Thinking she's trying to give clues but somehow send people on the wrong track is incorrect, in my opinion - she's had her brains scrambled a few times and the result is a mish-mash of vague hints and clues, which we're all trying to make some sense of.

2) Forget patterns/faces/Mickey Mouse in the nebulas. Just don't. The Thing we're looking for may be visual - and it may be spectacular, but I doubt it's going to be a case of seeing faces in nebulae.

3) Assume for now that the Barnacles/UA/UP/Merope stuff is unconnected with the Rift, until we know better. So far, there has been nothing concrete to suggest they are connected. At. All.

My gut feeling is that we have still to uncover some clues which have probably been exisiting in-game for a while now. Drew has mentioned, for example, that the Dark Wheel play a part in this Rift stuff. I have been Allied to the Dark Wheel for quite some time now, and was poking around Shinrarta Dezhra (who came up with that goddamned name anyway it's awful to type :) ) for a while, even noticing one or two things about a DW base there, before moving on to other things as the Rift story was in limbo for a bit. I may go back there and have another poke around.

The other line of enquiry should be Tionisla, which is where the Old Lady is buried in her ship in the ship graveyard (which isn't officially in the game - yet).

As others have stated frequently, a reminder to Read The First Few Posts In This Thread Before Presenting Your Latest Theory.

Regards o7

Agreed. Except point 3. Was recently confirmed everything is intertwined - all the story/mystery stuff in someway is connected

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drew said:
What Frontier have asked me to write is the ‘behind the scenes’ view of what is happening in-game and I’ll be writing it as it happens. All those disparate story-line threads you’ve seen: Halsey, Artefacts, Probes, Barnacles, Permit locks, The Rift, Imperial politics, Federal machinations, the secretiveness of the Alliance and those ‘Shadowy Figures’ – yes, they’re all connected and this will explain how – in a way that just can’t be done in depth in-game.

Source -

http://www.drewwagar.com/announcements/elite-dangerous-premonition/



Fly safe o7
 
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Some kind of stellar engineering - or even just planetary engineering is certainly the kind of thing that I'm trying to keep an eye out for.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale

It needs to be unambiguous to a degree, though. Vague pictures of cats or images only visible from one location and relying on conjunctions of massively separated stars isn't going to cut it to my mind. A debris field the size of a system, nicely lined up planets with the same orbital period, an entire system of earth-likes, stellar systems arranged into a sphere formation, other stellar formations clearly observable and 'suspicious', no star field visible ("am I inside a Dyson sphere?")... all on the list of things to look out for. Basically anything that sets of mental alarm bells.

Yep!

What Drew said is probably the biggest lead we have had so far.

"Certainly there will be markers that are visible, but not everything is. By searching in the fashion you have been, you may already have seen some aspects of it."

I think it will be "anomalous". Whatever it is, it blends easily into the background visual noise, but once we see "it" we won't be able to unsee "it".

I love cats, but unfortunately, a giant kitten in a nebula, doesn't really hook into the whole "and they thought Thargoids were trouble" thing.

If people want to look for paradoodles, that's perfectly fine, as you will likely also see what Drew intended us to see (something out of place and scary), just do it in the Formidine rift area, not Merope, please :)
 
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That's exactly like I was talking about, Hukka. Some areas wouldn't plot. Now if you go through some systems where you're orbit lines ago away too you've hit the same stuff I was talking about.

Someone should check if this is a Riftwide thing or something more local. These might be the 'Dark Systems' that old woman mentioned. If it is relatively local then there is your trail of breadcrumbs.
 
A few jumps into the rift from the EAFOTS systems, the navigation tool and galactic map get a bit wonky - oftentimes I would have systems within jump range in map mode, but they would not show up in the navigation panel, nor could I plot a route through them. I could however target them in map mode and then jump. Again I have no idea of this means anything or if it's just a glitch in the matrix.

I've just found this too.

My initial thoughts are one of the quotes from the Old Woman.

"Once you reach the rift you're going to have to plot a way across."

WE will have to plot our own course and not depend on the auto route system that we all do :)
 
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