UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn

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So as requested by the spreadsheet and some personal pms.

Here is audio of:

1) UP deployed
2) UA deployed
3) ADS
4) Collect UP
5) Record UA

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8ck-2ELKOuLankzY2N1d08wOFU

The test is to determine if the pulse alters the UA in any way.

Is anyone able to decode the UA morse to ensure it still images the ship after a UP pulse? I am in an Anaconda.

THe UA audio starts proper ~1:47, you can hear me close cargo then go to debug cam.

you rock. data > all

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Another quick thought:

what if the whole diagram isn´t Nav at all but a story ?
lower right , binary 001 = 1. System was detected (arrow from position to center) ?by UA?
upper left, binary 010 = 2. this was reported (wave from system out) ?by UA?
upper right binary 011 = 3. system was scanned in detail (3 waves in) ?by UP?

riddle to solve : whats 4.?

PROFIT!!!

I kinda agree with this one- if it wasn't for MB saying things about this being a key to something, I would guess that the signal was just a quick information burst about the probe itself- like the UP does what it does all the time, but if you scan it it says HI IM A PROBE HERES WHAT I DO: 1 2 3 4 ARENT I GREAT and then goes back to its normal work.

But then the hints we got are pretty clear that it's either a key to decoding something or a key to unlocking or triggering something.
 
So my failed exploration and "test" might be useful after all? :eek: well, I will warn you that I may not have located the exact center of the crater. It's been so long since I visited the area I can't remember how much care I took to locate the actual center. But there was indeed a large "spire" in the center of craterception (ie, the smaller crater within the massive one). Someone else in thread 7 pointed it out to be a natural phenomenon, but I will say that lat/long coords I gave for the spire are indeed exact to their given precision :D

Seems to tie in nicely with hypothesis that the central circle in the sonogram represents the Large crater & the offset of that and the radial line against the grid origin. Seems too much of a coincidence that the peak of the smaller crater matches those coordinates. Now just got to wait for a UP owner to do the test, or for free floating UPs to turn up somewhere.

Edit: the trouble is unless the coordinates can be further refined the search areain that smaller crater is still fairly large if the EMP effect is limited to around 200 metres.
 
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I could do it very easily at home, but I'm on holidays now, so I can't.
Anyway, I've already did your test with the first UP, and the UA went on morseing my Asp as usual. So I wouldn't put many expectations on it...

Ahhh well if it's been done already there's no point.

I did it because people were asking specifically for this and it was outstanding on the spreadsheet.
 
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For those of you looking at the Phase Shift Key idea for the Symbol - I am really liking that these days

I am seeing what im calling a carrier wave in the UP signal. I have been playing with some Ham Radio software (Ham Radio Deluxe) and there is a nice sine wave that is coming from the UP at around 1500 Hz. So far I have not been able to make much of it ...

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has MB confirmed that the UP mystery solvable inspace or on a planet or one or the other. That alone would rule about 50% of the theories floating around one way or the other.

As a side note are there any ammonia terristrials in the paldies nebula ( not landables) but ammonia terristrial worlds i have my own theroy i wish to test out but if it doesnt work outthen it might be worth keeping it silent for now

MB said "The UAs and UPs are space based, other aspects can involve the surface." Which, as always, is quite ambiguous.
Yes, UAs and UPs are both found in space ( therefore they are "space-based"), but that does not prevent either of them doing something useful on a planet surface, such as using the UP EMP to disable a surface-based installation. Therefore I don't think anything can be ruled out on that argument.
 
For those of you looking at the Phase Shift Key idea for the Symbol - I am really liking that these days

I am seeing what im calling a carrier wave in the UP signal. I have been playing with some Ham Radio software (Ham Radio Deluxe) and there is a nice sine wave that is coming from the UP at around 1500 Hz. So far I have not been able to make much of it ...


Just to say there's more audio in the link in my sig if you need stuff to work with, been keeping copies of everything.

They are not particularly well named tho. =p
 
Just to say there's more audio in the link in my sig if you need stuff to work with, been keeping copies of everything.

They are not particularly well named tho. =p


Thank you! Ya Its great to have a bunch of recordings to work with. Love the testing by the way :)
 
I don't think that's possible, there's no way to tell where something jumped from.

Let's assume that the convoys jumping in have the same jump-range as we do and that they're single-jumping into the systems we find them. What does that say about their origin based on the system's we've definitely found them in?
 
Greetings fellow commanders!

it's my first post in this whole monster thread but i'm diping in it closely from time to time. i've never spoken before because I had nothing to cotrinbute. But now i have a theory about message from unknown probe. I'm willing to throw it at you guys now so we could together take it apart and find weak and strong points in it.

Disclaimer: I have no idea if this has been proposed before or not. i was searching for any info in this mega thread to determin that but I'm casual resarcher ;) if so then sir i'm onboard this theory as well.

I'll be reffering to this image ofc:
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So far I agree with those who spoken before me and suggested that symbols around central image corresponds to numbers 1,2,3,4 and also that those numbers are the instruction in what order we should read the message. And also that it's a sphere in the center of the image.

However i disagree the sphere is a Merope. I'm almost sure it's something else. In fact it's the sphere where you can find uknown artefact around Merope system.

Keeping that in mind clues from the message can be read as instruction where we should look for next clues. Precise distance and direction relative to Merope system.

Here's how:


1. First instruction pionts the direction where we should go.
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Here's how it looks in game:
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It also says take the radius of the sphere.
As we know unknown artifacts can be found in 135-150 ly distace from Merope. Let's say 140 ly to be in the middle.


2. Second instruction hilights the perimeter of the sphere. it's basic math right? So distance L = 2*pi*R That gives us L = 2*3,14*140ly so L = 879,2ly
This is the distance of how far relative to Merope we should look for.


3. Third instruction tells us to switch into another plane. So we should now read next instruction verticaly. Someone spoted this before in this thread. This is more clear when we take step back and look into original image.
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It's almost like prim notation that sometime is used in math. It's used to take something out of the equation and transform it on the side to perform some operation only on that part. This way 4th instruction starts to make sense.


4. Last instruction says the value of vertical angle that we should aplay to our already established trajectory in relative to Merope's plane. it's more or less 1/3 of the 1/4 of circle that gives us 1/12 of 360 degree so in the end 30 degrees.

In game this looks like this:
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5. So all this point's at few lovely nebulas. Most likely at Spirograph Nebula. it could be also pointing at Bernards Loop or any other nebula in that cluster of nebulas around it. But the thing is math doesn't work for them, it's too far if i'm right. Spirograph Nebula is in perfect distance and angle relative to Merope but i'm here all day today and nothing... Don't get me wrong it's a cool system. Lot's of bodies to scan. Cool background almost like in No Man's Sky but none trace of aliens :/

Altough there is a part of the mesege on the left side that i have yet to decipher. it's too distorted for me but it could be instruction on which stellar bodie to look.


So here are pros and cons of this theory.

Pros:
- Instruction is very simple and easy to follow. it doesn't require any time related operations. Aligment of planets isn't required. None of the messy stuff. Nice and easy. And strict to the bare minimum.
- In the same time instructions are very precise. Distance, angle in galaxy's plane, angle in vertical plane. So we can get exact numbers from it with acceptable margin of error.
- it looks like somehow realted to our modern trys of extraterestial contact as it was pointed before. And region where it's pointing is well in range of our brodcasts from Sol. Our firsts radio brodcasts are dated for 19/20th century. So 1500 years in game time frame. it's well in range to find those and answer to them.
- Right now there is a huge bubble around Spirograph Nebula of systems that requires an unkown permit. Myself and few friends somehow managed to slip through. When you are inside that bubble you can travel freely. There are still few systems locked but most are open. Yet so far empty with alien related content.
- Someone pointed before that symbol on the barnacle looks like Bernard's Loop and it's well visable from pointed coordinates.

Cons:
- i followed strictly to those "deciphered" instructions and found nothing. My theory is that right now there is nothng here and it could show up when 2.2 drops. But it's a guess. It looks like wall of systems with permit requirement is to prevent players of searching this space at the moment. I somehow slip through but probably I shoiuldn't be here.
- My interpretation of first instruction could be a wishful thinking. There's no indication of Sag A really.
- In fact all of this could be wishful thinking so i hope you have your tinfoil hats fully operational right now ;)


So what you are thinking of all of this?
 
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Greetings fellow commanders!

it's my first post in this whole monster thread but i'm diping in it closely from time to time. i've never spoken before because I had nothing to cotrinbute. But now i have a theory about message from unknown probe. I'm willing to throw it at you guys now so we could together take it apart and find weak and strong points in it.

Disclaimer: I have no idea if this has been proposed before or not. i was searching for any info in this mega thread to determin that but I'm casual resarcher ;) if so then sir i'm onboard this theory as well.

I'll be reffering to this image ofc:
So far I agree with those who spoken before me and suggested that symbols around central image corresponds to numbers 1,2,3,4 and also that those numbers are the instruction in what order we should read the message. And also that it's a sphere in the center of the image.

However i disagree the sphere is a Merope. I'm almost sure it's something else. In fact it's the sphere where you can find uknown artefact around Merope system.

Keeping that in mind clues from the message can be read as instruction where we should look for next clues. Precise distance and direction relative to Merope system.

Here's how:


1. First instruction pionts the direction where we should go.
Here's how it looks in game:
It also says take the radius of the sphere.
As we know unknown artifacts can be found in 135-150 ly distace from Merope. Let's say 140 ly to be in the middle.


2. Second instruction hilights the perimeter of the sphere. it's basic math right? So distance L = 2*pi*R That gives us L = 2*3,14*140ly so L = 879,2ly
This is the distance of how far relative to Merope we should look for.


3. Third instruction tells us to switch into another plane. So we should now read next instruction verticaly. Someone spoted this before in this thread. This is more clear when we take step back and look into original image.
It's almost like prim notation that sometime is used in math. It's used to take something out of the equation and transform it on the side to perform some operation only on that part. This way 4th instruction starts to make sense.


4. Last instruction says the value of vertical angle that we should aplay to our already established trajectory in relative to Merope's plane. it's more or less 1/3 of the 1/4 of circle that gives us 1/12 of 360 degree so in the end 30 degrees.

In game this looks like this:


5. So all this point's at few lovely nebulas. Most likely at Spirograph Nebula. it could be also pointing at Bernards Loop or any other nebula in that cluster of nebulas around it. But the thing is math doesn't work for them, it's too far if i'm right. Spirograph Nebula is in perfect distance and angle relative to Merope but i'm here all day today and nothing... Don't get me wrong it's a cool system. Lot's of bodies to scan. Cool background almost like in No Man's Sky but none trace of aliens :/

Altough there is a part of the mesege on the left side that i have yet to decipher. it's too distorted for me but it could be instruction on which stellar bodie to look.


So here are pros and cons of this theory.

Pros:
- Instruction is very simple and easy to follow. it doesn't require any time related operations. Aligment of planets isn't required. None of the messy stuff. Nice and easy. And strict to the bare minimum.
- In the same time instructions are very precise. Distance, angle in galaxy's plane, angle in vertical plane. So we can get exact numbers from it with acceptable margin of error.
- it looks like somehow realted to our modern trys of extraterestial contact as it was pointed before. And region where it's pointing is well in range of our brodcasts from Sol. Our firsts radio brodcasts are dated for 19/20th century. So 1500ly in game time frame. it's well in range to find those and answer to them.
- Right now there is a huge bubble around Spirograph Nebula of systems that requires an unkown permit. Myself and few friends somehow managed to slip through. When you are inside that bubble you can travel freely. There are still few systems locked but most are open. Yet so far empty with alien related content.
- Someone pointed before that symbol on the barnacle looks like Bernard's Loop and it's well visable from pointed coordinates.

Cons:
- i followed strictly to those "deciphered" instructions and found nothing. My theory is that right now there is nothng here and it could show up when 2.2 drops. But it's a guess. It looks like wall of systems with permit requirement is to prevent players of searching this space at the moment. I somehow slip through but probably I shoiuldn't be here.
- My interpretation of first instruction could be a wishful thinking. There's no indication of Sag A really.
- In fact all of this could be wishful thinking so i hope you have your tinfoil hats fully operational right now ;)


So what you are thinking of all of this?

well i cant plot a route there from merope so have to go there manualy but ill check it out
 
Why in the world are feds flying imperial capital ships and imperials are in the fed capital ships haha

http://imgur.com/a/YQW75

http://imgur.com/a/p4KJN

hmm looks like they are trying to confuse everyone now

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well i cant plot a route there from merope so have to go there manualy but ill check it out

edit the area araund there is full of permit lock's so i dont think anyone can get there
 
hmm looks like they are trying to confuse everyone now

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edit the area araund there is full of permit lock's so i dont think anyone can get there

I taught it was an instance bug, it wasnt relogged and came in and out still like this lol
 
Greetings fellow commanders!

it's my first post in this whole monster thread but i'm diping in it closely from time to time. i've never spoken before because I had nothing to cotrinbute. But now i have a theory about message from unknown probe. I'm willing to throw it at you guys now so we could together take it apart and find weak and strong points in it.

Disclaimer: I have no idea if this has been proposed before or not. i was searching for any info in this mega thread to determin that but I'm casual resarcher ;) if so then sir i'm onboard this theory as well.

I'll be reffering to this image ofc:
So far I agree with those who spoken before me and suggested that symbols around central image corresponds to numbers 1,2,3,4 and also that those numbers are the instruction in what order we should read the message. And also that it's a sphere in the center of the image.

However i disagree the sphere is a Merope. I'm almost sure it's something else. In fact it's the sphere where you can find uknown artefact around Merope system.

Keeping that in mind clues from the message can be read as instruction where we should look for next clues. Precise distance and direction relative to Merope system.

Here's how:


1. First instruction pionts the direction where we should go.
Here's how it looks in game:
It also says take the radius of the sphere.
As we know unknown artifacts can be found in 135-150 ly distace from Merope. Let's say 140 ly to be in the middle.


2. Second instruction hilights the perimeter of the sphere. it's basic math right? So distance L = 2*pi*R That gives us L = 2*3,14*140ly so L = 879,2ly
This is the distance of how far relative to Merope we should look for.


3. Third instruction tells us to switch into another plane. So we should now read next instruction verticaly. Someone spoted this before in this thread. This is more clear when we take step back and look into original image.
It's almost like prim notation that sometime is used in math. It's used to take something out of the equation and transform it on the side to perform some operation only on that part. This way 4th instruction starts to make sense.


4. Last instruction says the value of vertical angle that we should aplay to our already established trajectory in relative to Merope's plane. it's more or less 1/3 of the 1/4 of circle that gives us 1/12 of 360 degree so in the end 30 degrees.

In game this looks like this:


5. So all this point's at few lovely nebulas. Most likely at Spirograph Nebula. it could be also pointing at Bernards Loop or any other nebula in that cluster of nebulas around it. But the thing is math doesn't work for them, it's too far if i'm right. Spirograph Nebula is in perfect distance and angle relative to Merope but i'm here all day today and nothing... Don't get me wrong it's a cool system. Lot's of bodies to scan. Cool background almost like in No Man's Sky but none trace of aliens :/

Altough there is a part of the mesege on the left side that i have yet to decipher. it's too distorted for me but it could be instruction on which stellar bodie to look.


So here are pros and cons of this theory.

Pros:
- Instruction is very simple and easy to follow. it doesn't require any time related operations. Aligment of planets isn't required. None of the messy stuff. Nice and easy. And strict to the bare minimum.
- In the same time instructions are very precise. Distance, angle in galaxy's plane, angle in vertical plane. So we can get exact numbers from it with acceptable margin of error.
- it looks like somehow realted to our modern trys of extraterestial contact as it was pointed before. And region where it's pointing is well in range of our brodcasts from Sol. Our firsts radio brodcasts are dated for 19/20th century. So 1500 years in game time frame. it's well in range to find those and answer to them.
- Right now there is a huge bubble around Spirograph Nebula of systems that requires an unkown permit. Myself and few friends somehow managed to slip through. When you are inside that bubble you can travel freely. There are still few systems locked but most are open. Yet so far empty with alien related content.
- Someone pointed before that symbol on the barnacle looks like Bernard's Loop and it's well visable from pointed coordinates.

Cons:
- i followed strictly to those "deciphered" instructions and found nothing. My theory is that right now there is nothng here and it could show up when 2.2 drops. But it's a guess. It looks like wall of systems with permit requirement is to prevent players of searching this space at the moment. I somehow slip through but probably I shoiuldn't be here.
- My interpretation of first instruction could be a wishful thinking. There's no indication of Sag A really.
- In fact all of this could be wishful thinking so i hope you have your tinfoil hats fully operational right now ;)


So what you are thinking of all of this?

you nailed something there is a litteral permit shell araund that system
strange the systems araund a 100ly area are locked hmm

edit the nebula's named area is sorounded by col system's and those are all locked but non of the spirograph area is
 
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Hi there !

While minding my own business, I've just stumbled on the following chat after dropping in Convoy Dispersal Pattern [threat 4]:

[LOCAL][Military Transport]: With all we've learned about these things, do you think we should be messing with them? After all there are still a lot of crippled stations out there.

It sounded like a UA/UP is on bord as the transport was a Python and 3 pirates dropped in shortly after me. Unfortunately I didn't have a cargo scanner. The interesting part I don't remember being mentioned before is that it was an Imperial Military convoy! Warlaworka is in Patreus space, 329.5 Ly from Merope. I've uploaded screenshots there: http://imgur.com/a/3JOU3

Looks like the Imps are trying to catch up. :D
 
i was in Spirograph yesterday, it's an amazingly atmospheric system. Everything is green/blue, it looks like a NMS screenshot :D

Didn't find anything there though, aside from the usual junk spawns on planets
 
Another quick thought:

what if the whole diagram isn´t Nav at all but a story ?
lower right , binary 001 = 1. System was detected (arrow from position to center) ?by UA?
upper left, binary 010 = 2. this was reported (wave from system out) ?by UA?
upper right binary 011 = 3. system was scanned in detail (3 waves in) ?by UP?

riddle to solve : whats 4.?
I like this idea.

4: Plant barnacles.

So the 'order' would be UA then UP, then barnacles. Which would mean we've been working through the mysteries backwards.
 
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