there simply isn't a UP shell between Merope and the UA shell though. Come on, Occam's razor: hundreds (or thousands) of pilots have flown through those systems since Merope became a thing, yet the only UPs have come from Fed convoys in Fed space. Does that mean 1) there is a UP shell, just we fly through it without noticing or 2) there is no shell, it's somewhere else (if it exists)
UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn
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Nope, because you can drop them beyond the shell and they will still point the same way. What's the 'other way' if you're past the shell?
Seriously guys, it might hurt to hear it, but the ''what if it's pointing away?'' train of logic is... well... illogical nonsense.
Its set up to interact with your radio but since we don't have that you select DemoMatic FT-2000. Then go to the DM780 and play with the super sweeper. It works on any audio playing through your soundcard
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Worth a delve! Downloaded software so now how do I open up an audio file with it ?
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They come from somewhere... And that location is where the dual pointing would make sense... Picking something up out of its habitat and dropping it above a random planet doesn't make sense.... (Think petunias
Since it points with the "head" I like this as an explanation for a placement between the UA shell and merope
I was just playing around in audacity and if anything, once you apply some filters it sounds like I am hearing computer-generated speech "after" the image at around 4-5KHz. Not sure if my ears are playing tricks on me or not though - hard to isolate and cant detect any actual words but my brain is jumping to conclusions saying "that is a voice" (as our brains are want to do) and sounds very reminiscent of 90s era computer-generated speech.
One possibility is that Merope is the target, which is why the UA/UP are pointing there. If/when "Winter" arrives, it'll arrive there. If I were planning an invasion, I'd send advanced scouts to learn everything about the targeted civilization first; their strengths, their weaknesses, etc.
The purpose of the UA was/is to scan possible offensive threats (i.e. our ships). It did it's job and determined a ship suitable for the second phase.
They then needed to determine our defense, i.e. stations & outposts. This was/is the second phase and the point of the strange DBX. So now they've found our offensive strength (ships) and our defensive fortifications (stations).
How do you fuel & supply an invasion fleet you ask? Well why not send the fuel & supplies ahead of time - barnacles. They simply make the fuel/supplies (meta-alloys).
What the UP does is something else. It can be a couple things; it could be a map not for us but for "Winter". It could also be a warning - perhaps sent by a rival or separatist faction of "Winter". It could be their Achilles Heel. I don't think we'll know until either the story advances and the invasion force arrives, or we decode the rest of the transmission. The problem is that we're running out of time.
Like MB said, purpose drives function. We're making the wrong assumptions in the UA/UP pointing to Merope - there's nothing to be found there, yet.
The purpose of the UA was/is to scan possible offensive threats (i.e. our ships). It did it's job and determined a ship suitable for the second phase.
They then needed to determine our defense, i.e. stations & outposts. This was/is the second phase and the point of the strange DBX. So now they've found our offensive strength (ships) and our defensive fortifications (stations).
How do you fuel & supply an invasion fleet you ask? Well why not send the fuel & supplies ahead of time - barnacles. They simply make the fuel/supplies (meta-alloys).
What the UP does is something else. It can be a couple things; it could be a map not for us but for "Winter". It could also be a warning - perhaps sent by a rival or separatist faction of "Winter". It could be their Achilles Heel. I don't think we'll know until either the story advances and the invasion force arrives, or we decode the rest of the transmission. The problem is that we're running out of time.
Like MB said, purpose drives function. We're making the wrong assumptions in the UA/UP pointing to Merope - there's nothing to be found there, yet.
They come from somewhere... And that location is where the dual pointing would make sense... Picking something up out of its habitat and dropping it above a random planet doesn't make sense.... (Think petunias
Since it points with the "head" I like this as an explanation for a placement between the UA shell and merope
It makes total sense if it's an alien satellite designed to study that planet. You're missing the core logic which is that if it always points at Merope, no matter how far you take it or where you drop it, the back end points literally everywhere else in the known Universe.
It cannot be pointing 'back' home, or 'back' at anything because it's orientation does not allow for that.
They come from somewhere... And that location is where the dual pointing would make sense... Picking something up out of its habitat and dropping it above a random planet doesn't make sense.... (Think petunias
Since it points with the "head" I like this as an explanation for a placement between the UA shell and merope
Unless there was a UA shell literally surrounding the entire galaxy, but that seems highly unlikely. The pointing doesn't necessarily mean something is CURRENTLY at Merope. As MB said, we're making a lot incorrect assumptions and the pointing seems to be one of them.
Exactly. This is why I have always said that I think the pointing WILL be important but right now it seems almost secondary to the puzzles right in front of us. The UP Image.
In order to avoid duplicating efforts : Has anyone checked for free floaters in the Lave cluster ?
My tinfoil theory (a very tinfoily one, I know...) goes as follow :
At some point after the thargoid war, some corps/INARA/Feds/Imps Started playing with thargoid biotech.
Quite successfully in fact. They went on to build some kind of von-neumann bio-tech probe to terraform worlds.
Because the tech is self replicating and possibly dangerous, they decide to try it somewhere far away. Maybe some
place beyond H&S. Things work for a while, but then turn awry. Maybe the bio-tech replicators become sentient or what not.
Contact is lost, ships dispatched to investigate are lost, memories are edited and the whole fiasco is buried.
After all, it's in a far away place where no one goes.
So we have this sentient swarm of bio tech machines left puzzled with a bunch of broken ships of unknown origin (i.e. us / sol)
E.g. a cobra mk3. They send self replicating swarms to suitable places, trying to locate the origine of the wrecks they have seen.
One lands on a planet in merope... shortly after, UA's start scanning objects in systems and later on make picture of ships and transmit
them while orienting toward Merope.
What if, upon recognizing the ship(s) they where looking for, they deployed a smaller swarm of better probes (the UP) and
try to find where these ships comes from. E.g. the Lave system for the Cobra mkIII.
Fits the "architect of creation too" as a terraforming swarm.
I agree that reading this may cause tin poisoning, but still, it fits the bill nicely XD.
My tinfoil theory (a very tinfoily one, I know...) goes as follow :
At some point after the thargoid war, some corps/INARA/Feds/Imps Started playing with thargoid biotech.
Quite successfully in fact. They went on to build some kind of von-neumann bio-tech probe to terraform worlds.
Because the tech is self replicating and possibly dangerous, they decide to try it somewhere far away. Maybe some
place beyond H&S. Things work for a while, but then turn awry. Maybe the bio-tech replicators become sentient or what not.
Contact is lost, ships dispatched to investigate are lost, memories are edited and the whole fiasco is buried.
After all, it's in a far away place where no one goes.
So we have this sentient swarm of bio tech machines left puzzled with a bunch of broken ships of unknown origin (i.e. us / sol)
E.g. a cobra mk3. They send self replicating swarms to suitable places, trying to locate the origine of the wrecks they have seen.
One lands on a planet in merope... shortly after, UA's start scanning objects in systems and later on make picture of ships and transmit
them while orienting toward Merope.
What if, upon recognizing the ship(s) they where looking for, they deployed a smaller swarm of better probes (the UP) and
try to find where these ships comes from. E.g. the Lave system for the Cobra mkIII.
Fits the "architect of creation too" as a terraforming swarm.
I agree that reading this may cause tin poisoning, but still, it fits the bill nicely XD.
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If you listen to the track with this section highlighted this is all background noise before the probe starts its data transmission, this is just the whistling noises of the probe warming up. it isnt there when its transmitting its data and itisnt there after it finishes.
This is not a hidden signal.
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i think also there is no hidden signal. MB said: the image is the key. nothing more is important.
He also said that we've not decoded all of it, and he also said the "sonic image" was the key, not specifically that the audio was the key (as far as I am aware anyway). I think there might be more here - E.g. 5 minutes with audacity and no-idea-what-i-am-doing with Low+high pass filters isolated what appeared to be garbled computer generated speech - someone who knows what they are doing might be able to clean that up and at least disprove it.
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And you are missing the core logic that if u take a petunia or a satellite out of its designated spot its still going to try to orient itself the right way but it would be meaningless because it'd in the wrong location.
I'm not saying this is right just your logic is wrong. And I like the idea that the head of a UA / up is the transmitter portion so it makes sense to me that they are transmitting both directions
It would be extremely sad if you needed to be a sound engineer / mathematician to solve this part.
Time for them to make some more in game tools for us to use to make these puzzles fully "in game".
And you are missing the core logic that if u take a petunia or a satellite out of its designated spot its still going to try to orient itself the right way but it would be meaningless because it'd in the wrong location.
A petunia or satellite is trying to face something, yes. But they are not facing their backs to something specific as well.
Let's not make any assumptions here including the purpose of the UA/UP pointing, "Winter" being the Thargoids, etc. Assumptions are not going to get us anywhere. We have our goal - find more UPs (which everyone can participate in) and decode the UP signal (which may require NASA). As MB stated, hijacking military convoys is not the only way to find the UP, especially as this entire puzzle is more of an exploration activity versus combat, meaning we have to explore more to find more.
Now the question is: what exactly have we decoded so far?
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