So you want to know about the Formidine Rift? (Part 3)

On page 1 the below is stated with Drew's response the sentence below the paragraph.

5) Are there any in-game requirements (minor faction reputation, certain ship type, pilot quality, carrying a certain rare good as cargo, etc.) for finding what is hidden in or past the Rift, or could anyone do it as long as they have the means to find their way to it?
No rank requirements of any kind. I kind of hope a single lone-wolf player figures it all out.

Which doesn't say anything about "the 'Who' refers to your personality and mentality".
The answer simply says "No rank requirements of any kind" - it's something of a stretch to say this means it's just player personality. Drew is very good at giving politician's answers to questions - and this is another example of that.


The point I'm making (badly) is that "It's just about the type of player", leads people to focus entirely on exploring the Rift area and ignore the possibility that there are clues in the Bubble (beyond posts on Galnet) that will help solve the mystery. We have been told by Drew that we've 'missed things' and that there are relevant Local News items (yes, I have read the first post
;)), so there's definitely something more to be found. It would be a mistake, I believe, to think that we just need to search the Rift using the 'right kind of mindset'.


Also, if it really does just mean "You need to be a persistent type of person", then it's a pretty lame kind of clue :eek:
 
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With a deep sorrow in our hearts, we must announce to you, that fellow Rifter, CMDR DancingLemur made another crater on a nameless moon in some insignificant system near Formidine Rift with his Asp Xplorer. Last transmission, that we have received was:

"Parking for the night......very tired....must take some sleep....landing gear deployed....vroooooooum......bang.....Eject!..Eject!...Eject!....BOOOM!!!


Well, long story short, I was tired and accidentally hit boost. Result: four months of exploring, countless system scanned, estimated value - enough for the Elite rank. But I will join you again after earning some credits and upgrading my AspX.

Fly safe, o7.

Commiserations.

I think DREW, with his new found bestestest friendship drive with FDEV, should request that when the Tionisla graveyard appears, there should be a Formidine graveyard too (and maybe a Sag A* and Beagle point) but on a smaller scale. ;)
 
Which doesn't say anything about "the 'Who' refers to your personality and mentality".
The answer simply says "No rank requirements of any kind" - it's something of a stretch to say this means it's just player personality.

Not really. Look at the question: He is asked if there are in-game requirements, he says 'no rank requirements of *any* kind'. Sure: He could be being weasel and not answering the very straight question he has been posed by replying to a broad question with a specific answer, but we have no reason to believe that, and imagine the sheer rage if it turns out he was being somewhat deceitful. Seems a straight answer to a straight question. No rank requirement, no gender requirement, no special ship required, no standing-on-one-leg while begging for mighty Cthulhu to reveal the answer required.

If there are no in-game requirements and no out of games tool are required to solve the mystery, what does that leave: The Commander.
 
Not really. Look at the question: He is asked if there are in-game requirements, he says 'no rank requirements of *any* kind'. Sure: He could be being weasel and not answering the very straight question he has been posed by replying to a broad question with a specific answer, but we have no reason to believe that, and imagine the sheer rage if it turns out he was being somewhat deceitful. Seems a straight answer to a straight question. No rank requirement, no gender requirement, no special ship required, no standing-on-one-leg while begging for mighty Cthulhu to reveal the answer required.

If there are no in-game requirements and no out of games tool are required to solve the mystery, what does that leave: The Commander.

Then I guess we're just going to disagree :p

The way I read it is this:

Q: Does it require A, B, C, D or E?
A: It doesn't require A

It's hardly being 'deceitful', and there's no law which says Drew has to answer every question fully and in detail - otherwise we could just ask him for the name of the star(s) we need to look at.

Maybe we just need to say "It is commonly believed that the 'Who' refers to your personality and mentality, rather than any trait or faction membership in-game.",
because it's evidently a question of interpretation.


I'm just hoping that the personality traits Drew is looking for are stubborn and argumentative, because that way I'm guaranteed to be the one!
 
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On page 1 the below is stated with Drew's response the sentence below the paragraph.

5) Are there any in-game requirements (minor faction reputation, certain ship type, pilot quality, carrying a certain rare good as cargo, etc.) for finding what is hidden in or past the Rift, or could anyone do it as long as they have the means to find their way to it?
No rank requirements of any kind. I kind of hope a single lone-wolf player figures it all out.

Will say it doesn't specify exactly what the previous guy said, but I think Drew has made comments to expound on the above to suggest it will require a certain type of person to see the clues, whether that means a honker wont find it or if you have to trawl through the system maps, I am unsure.

I think that it is important to point out that while Drew said it 'depends on who goes looking' he doesn't say the the 'who goes looking' is necessarily the person who actually will find it.

At the time of the original quote the story was on hold. I still think that this statement was to indicate that Salome herself is the 'who' and the finding would be on hold until Frontier was ready to let the story begin moving forward again which would entail Salome herself once again engaging in the quest via the pages of Galnet. Now that the story is moving again new clues derived from following Salome's adventures will become clear and inevitably lead to someone, perhaps one of us, unlocking the riddle.
 
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I think that it is important to point out that while Drew said it 'depends on who goes looking' he doesn't say the the 'who goes looking' is necessarily the person who actually will find it.

At the time of the original quite the story was on hold. I still think that this statement was to indicate that Salome herself is the 'who' and the finding would be on hold until Frontier was ready to let the story begin moving forward again which would entail Salome herself once again engaging in the quest via the pages of Galnet. Now that the story is moving again new clues derived from following Salome's adventures will become clear and inevitably lead to someone, perhaps one of us, unlocking the riddle.

Oh lovely, a third logical interpretation :D
I'm starting to think this might be difficult...
 
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Not really. Look at the question: He is asked if there are in-game requirements, he says 'no rank requirements of *any* kind'. Sure: He could be being weasel and not answering the very straight question he has been posed by replying to a broad question with a specific answer, but we have no reason to believe that, and imagine the sheer rage if it turns out he was being somewhat deceitful. Seems a straight answer to a straight question. No rank requirement, no gender requirement, no special ship required, no standing-on-one-leg while begging for mighty Cthulhu to reveal the answer required.

If there are no in-game requirements and no out of games tool are required to solve the mystery, what does that leave: The Commander.

My interpretation is that the logical answer to the question " Are there any in-game requirements?" would be "no", but he didn't give that answer, which implies that the answer is "yes". He says that it's not rank, so you have to think about other logical in-game requirements that would fit with a lone wolf type explorer. As an example, it could mean something simple like jump-range. Maybe what we're looking for in the rift is located or visible from a star midway between two stars that are 80LY apart, so you need to jump at least 40 LY to discover it. See how many other theories you can make that fit.
 
The problem with it being an in-game requirement/faction or even it being Salome herself having to find it is that it was been open to discovery since Gamma AND it has been stated anyone could have found it, Drew is hoping a single person discovers it but it would be found easier with group effort, and there are some other hints that haven't been aggregated but are scattered in this thread.

It really is just a matter of the who being the person that can decipher Drew's clues (hey like Blue's Clues!) in the information available on Page 1 of this thread.
 
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Well,

Here's a rare sight. Not often you see these!
:D

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Im doing well this evening!


AN INCREDIBLY RARE FIND! A terraformable landable! :D:D:D

http://i.imgur.com/mNzWG8N.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zWNPZaf.jpg

Excellent find! Is it usual to see that listing that far from the bubble?!? :eek:

Is that one of the things we have been searching for?

Also...

Something has been bugging me. That quote that is under my sig, by Drew. It was made in reference to someone who said they went on trucking after jumping into a system and dropped out of supercruise to look through the rift to see if anything stood out. Drew's reply insinuated that some bits would. Add in the "it depends who goes looking it" bit and my brain started whirring. they could smell the wood burning from miles away!

Anyhoo, what I always considered the "black" of space, isn't.

This first pic is what we usually see flying about.


In this pic I upped the brightness and contrast. Black isn't black! Someone could have pics on their hard drive of the black space of The Rift and in those pics could be what we are looking for.
Has anyone else tried filtering their pics for this background detail?
I'm talking about the pure black of space after dropping from supercruise. It may have what we are after!

 
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I doubt it simply because the "black" changes. As in gas and dust clouds that constitute the non-absolute black that allows imaging software to brighten and show it would be changing elements. So assuming E : D is simulating it, I know it isn't moving or changing as far as the calculations go for the game, then there wouldn't be a way to hide clues in system wide background dust and elements. It's a very dynamic part of space, kind of like how sand gets blown about by wind so do the universe's dust clouds get blown about by stellar winds and changed abou by gravity and other forces like dark matter/dark energy.

Edit: It would also go against Drew stating that we don't need external applications. I think that probably includes imaging software to brighten up screenshots to discover something.
 
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