So you want to know about the Formidine Rift? (Part 3)

[Darth Ender]

You don't. Its simply not possible.

The only way you can is if it remains at a surface temperature that maintains a nice thick layer of ice.

IE. very cold.

I've discovered ammonia worlds with life and ammonia oceans with no atmosphere. The surface temp was just a bit under the freezing point of ammonia ...but that's under pressure. Without the pressure it would have needed to be much colder and likely well outside of the chance of a subsurface liquid ocean capable of supporting life. But at least it's semi-believable by being at least cold enough to be a freezing point that's recognizable.

Anyone exploring enough to be out in the rift should know that you dont look too closely at the specific numbers. The procedural generator isn't imbued with a full description of physics.

 

[ActualSpacePimp]

I certainly hope that reply was meant for hhiram and not me. I don't recall ever having personally attacked Drew. He's not even on my in-game KOS list

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Ah but you forget: Drew has specifically stated that he snuck things into Reclamation as 'easter eggs' for Oolite fans.

Plus: The Dark Wheel and the original Elite aren't completely canon either.

EDIT: This is from Drew's FAQ on Reclamation:

Q. Is the old woman in the hospital Rebecca Tyley from your Oolite books, or is she Elyssia Fields from ‘The Dark Wheel’?

My Oolite books are not canon to the ED universe, neither is ‘The Dark Wheel’ any more. Parallel universes will naturally share a lot in common.

Certainly not directed at you.

 

[c48113]

How do you maintain significant amounts of surface water with no atmosphere?

and how do you have water at 186 K which is -87 C

 

[Cpt.Bilsn]

That has certainly been suggested but it seems far more likely that the woman is Rebecca Weston/Tyley from Drew's Oolite Saga. In Reclamation she claims that she flew a Cobra Mk III that was produced by 'Apocalypse Engineering'. Rebecca and James Feynman/McKenna, flew just such a model spacecraft in Status Quo while Elyssia Fields and Jason Ryder stole a standard Cowell & McGrath model from Tionisla. Add to that the woman's recollection of aliens of all kinds (feline, reptilian, avian) and her recollection of the word "Ragazza" in Altera and you have way too many pointers to Rebecca while any evidence of her being Fields relies almost totally on conjecture.

Also she claims to never having children and only once trying all this family thing with (presumably) the man she later lose.

 

[IliteratSqirel]

"Independent Rift Explorer's Association" - I like it, well done DC!

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Octagons though... I'm not aware of anything living in nature that uses octagons. It would be interesting to find out what does​ make use of octagons consistently. Anyone know?

Thargoids, back in the day. Who knows what they'd look like now though?[/QUOTE]

Bees-honeycomb uses hexagonal cells of wax to hold the honey. Apparently it's an efficient shape in terms of honey stored versus honey consumed to make the wax
Presumably the original thought was bees are insects, let's have an insectoidal threat, now what sort of ships would space-faring bees fly???

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and how do you have water at 186 K which is -87 C

A lot of antifreeze!

 

[evaldo10]

The Dark Wheel exists in game so they at least are canonical. The Ryders are canonical because they appear in John Harper's And Here the Wheel. Whether or not Liz is related to the Ryders of TDW is questionable.

Drew reused Tenim Neseva from the pages of the Oolite Saga. Not hard to fathom that the inspiration for 'the old woman' came from that same source. If you want to believe that she's Elyssia Fields ... I'm not going to protest (much). To me though, she's Rebecca.

I agree that the story stems from the Oolite saga but if you then have to rewrite these thing to negate the Oolite saga from the Elite games then you may have to rewire them to fit the Elite stories.

With the new information on the Old ladys death its looking more likely to point to the direction of Elysia and this could be a forced change to tie in the old Elite lore.

 

[evaldo10]

Interesting Im in Eafots BA-A g2

Someone has scanned the main sun. There are a further 6 suns orbitting the main sun.

All these were scanned except the last one.

The strange thing is Aldente scanned all the suns yet didnt scan the one lone planet closest to the sun.

Why would he miss that out if its the closest one to scan on arrival.

He either missed it or it wasn't there.

 

[Jon flint]

Interesting Im in Eafots BA-A g2

Someone has scanned the main sun. There are a further 6 suns orbitting the main sun.

All these were scanned except the last one.

The strange thing is Aldente scanned all the suns yet didnt scan the one lone planet closest to the sun.

Why would he miss that out if its the closest one to scan on arrival.

He either missed it or it wasn't there.

Looking at that system, he also missed the lava world. He was probably just scanning stars and ignoring the rest.

 

[[Diplomacy] Carnegie]

Interesting Im in Eafots BA-A g2

Someone has scanned the main sun. There are a further 6 suns orbitting the main sun.

All these were scanned except the last one.

The strange thing is Aldente scanned all the suns yet didnt scan the one lone planet closest to the sun.

Why would he miss that out if its the closest one to scan on arrival.

He either missed it or it wasn't there.

There's at least one moon orbiting a gas giant, somewhere between the Bubble and Sag A*, that doesn't have a 'First Discovered by Drew Carnegie' tag on it, when the other 40-odd bodies do.
Sometimes people mess up, sometimes people get bored, and some people like to leave something for the next guy along to find.

I wouldn't read anything into it.

 

[evaldo10]

Yeah I scanned both. Could understand not scanning the one further out but strange to not scan the first planet as its scannable when you drop in.

 

[lorrad]

Nice system...no landables, etc... nothing special.

http://i.imgur.com/EwLgHYY.png

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Hi Guys...

Been thinking a bit.

IF we are dealing with a AI race. And that's a big "IF" Wouldn't it be sensible to search for class O stars as they are the most luminous in the galaxy? I mean... solar power and whatnot.

Something else to consider - why would they need biospheres? Any old rock would do...

Thoughts?

Kind of a funny one, the planets in that system look like morse -.- .-. --. "krg" or "rku"?

There is the science of finding patterns in data which technically is not a scientific approach because you start with no hypothesis other than if you let the data speak for itself you might find something. It's what the guys who wrote the book Freakenomics did. They took all the data sets they had available to them, did regression analysis on the lot of it, found correlations and conclusion then created the postulates to explain them such as is the biggest contributor to lowering crime rates.

The barnacles would be a start as a test set-up since there arn't a lot of barnacle sites. How one would proceed is take "all" the data from the galmap and system map of systems where the barnacles are found. Plug that into a stats package and do regression analysis which compares every variable set to every other variable set to see what correlates to what. You'd get mostly junk but you would find what's common to the barnacle sites or at least likely indicators.

Even though there are few barnacle sites, that is still a lot of real work.

One could apply the same techniques to the Rift, to EOAFTS or the terrestrials on the far Rift.

If you think Dom's spreadsheets are annoying you'd probably need the staffing of wartime Bletchley just to enter them.
However all patterns would be found, hunted down and,,,

Manhours doing this versus manhours blowing smoke?
One's work, the other's fun.

Got that out of my soul so I never have to think of it again.

Think I'll fart around on the far rift 'til the end of days.

 

[Jon flint]

Nothing to see here, just wanted to share a lovely Earthlike world, sadly no lights on the dark side...

System name is EAFOTS ML-P D5-28 (currently untagged too)

Spoiler

 

[Voz]

Why would he miss that out if its the closest one to scan on arrival.

He either missed it or it wasn't there.

Or he decided that he would get more money for scanning the stars, then couldn't be bothered to go back for the planet. Or was doing it based on spotting the objects in that system by eye and didn't see the planet.

 

[CMDR DancingLemur]

With a deep sorrow in our hearts, we must announce to you, that fellow Rifter, CMDR DancingLemur made another crater on a nameless moon in some insignificant system near Formidine Rift with his Asp Xplorer. Last transmission, that we have received was:

"Parking for the night......very tired....must take some sleep....landing gear deployed....vroooooooum......bang.....Eject!..Eject!...Eject!....BOOOM!!!


Well, long story short, I was tired and accidentally hit boost. Result: four months of exploring, countless system scanned, estimated value - enough for the Elite rank. But I will join you again after earning some credits and upgrading my AspX.

Fly safe, o7.

 

[Darth Ender]

With a deep sorrow in our hearts, we must announce to you, that fellow Rifter, CMDR DancingLemur made another crater on a nameless moon in some insignificant system near Formidine Rift with his Asp Xplorer. Last transmission, that we have received was:

"Parking for the night......very tired....must take some sleep....landing gear deployed....vroooooooum......bang.....Eject!..Eject!...Eject!....BOOOM!!!


Well, long story short, I was tired and accidentally hit boost. Result: four months of exploring, countless system scanned, estimated value - enough for the Elite rank. But I will join you again after earning some credits and upgrading my AspX.

Fly safe, o7.

gonna have to update your story there. You can't boost with landing gear deployed

 

[Helfar]

gonna have to update your story there. You can't boost with landing gear deployed

think they hit boost button instead of landing gear.

After a hyear abesence I came back and bought a python full of palladium. Tookm off and mistook my evacute hold for the landing gear button and sprayd 250tonnes of palladium across the interior of the station. was pretty gutted to lose the money AND get a fine for it.

 

[CMDR Caderyn Abbadon]

Soooo I have a theory.

I think the location of The Thing or a clue could be in EAFOTS DU-Y C14-0.

Didn't DW say something about the etymology of Kahina? Well I looked the Berber warrior queen up, her name was Daya Ult Yenfaq Tajrawt. Then I looked up Salome and it turns out that the Dance of the Seven Veils is described in the Bible, in Matthew 14. So I started running combinations of those initials with the EAFOTS systems.

One of them, EAFOTS DU-Y C14-0 lines up with the bubble in spectacular fashion.

Spoiler

http://i.imgur.com/EXD4CYW.png

Can someone there check it out?

I've also run some other nearby combos like DY-T and DA-K (Diya al-Kahinat) but they don't line up as well. I also tried some KM-B A systems trying to match the Prism system star order but that didn't really pan out.

Bonus Points: Turns out a one act Opera of Salome was edited by Richard Strauss, another Elite Strauss reference after Johann!

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EDIT: Just took another look at EAFOTS DU-Y B14-0, if I line it up to the bubble, it goes right through the heart (Can't think of that without hearing Bon Jovi). It also aligns with the Bible theory better.

Ha, I happened to be 1 jump from C14, jumping over there now, I'll report back...

nothing at C14, just 4 stars -3 close together - and 5 planets -4 of which are landable - around the 4th star, about 2,000 LS away....heading to B14.

 

[Jon flint]

Ha, I happened to be 1 jump from C14, jumping over there now, I'll report back...

9 jumps away myself, jumping over to have a look too

Edit* Sadly nothing Although it is cool how the nebulae align...

Spoiler

 

[mosteen]

With a deep sorrow in our hearts, we must announce to you, that fellow Rifter, CMDR DancingLemur made another crater on a nameless moon in some insignificant system near Formidine Rift with his Asp Xplorer. Last transmission, that we have received was:

"Parking for the night......very tired....must take some sleep....landing gear deployed....vroooooooum......bang.....Eject!..Eject!...Eject!....BOOOM!!!


Well, long story short, I was tired and accidentally hit boost. Result: four months of exploring, countless system scanned, estimated value - enough for the Elite rank. But I will join you again after earning some credits and upgrading my AspX.

Fly safe, o7.

Bummer mate, sorry for your loss, o7 Sir!