Also, what is the point in getting an Engineer to upgrade your jump range if, as others have said, you can jump in a long-range ship (eg. Cheap hauler!), travel, then have your combat ready FDL delivered to you instantly when you arrive...?
2.2's Instant Ship and Module Transport - Yay or Nay?
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Precisely!
Add a minute wait per 50 LY of distance, solved. Plus a modest fee for taxi service and gas. This should be a convenience factor to avoid flying back an forth when moving your fleet. Not a complete override for ships with crappy jump range.
No one asked for 55 LY Anaconda (FDL) taxis. We just wanted to be able to move our fleets without the fuss. Not instantly!!! And definitely not with game breaking magic.
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Sorry but i think you still have the choice, it's up to you and your play time and your definition of immersion breaking and realism. Again it is the same logic between solo and open gameplay for everything else (CG, mission, rep farming.....)
Quite. there is absolutely no going back on it. People would rage and people will quit if the move is tempered.
Personally, I bear the opinion that if you're going to revolutionise a game, maybe do it in the smallest step first. Like they should have done with Engineers maybe: Only introducing Level 1 and 2 upgrades first to check balance, integration and how things generally went, rather than giving us everything at once.
I was writing a reply to that post myself, but saw this... and as much as I dislike Gaius Baltar
-- I find myself in near-perfect agreement with this statement.
Instant travelling is breaking a interstellar travel idea. If we can teleport the ship, then why we cant teleport ourselves?
Maybe insta-travell, insta-kill and insta$earn also?
To make game more pleasure, just increase twice FSD jump ranges and ship transfer will not be necessary. FDL and Vette still sucks, even after grade 5.
Maybe insta-travell, insta-kill and insta$earn also?
To make game more pleasure, just increase twice FSD jump ranges and ship transfer will not be necessary. FDL and Vette still sucks, even after grade 5.
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This! Personally I would like to see a transfer delay.
But maybe it could work the other way around: Add a cooldown after a ship has been transfered. This would prevent continuous swapping of ships, which could lead to unwanted side effects... I know a cooldown has nothing to do with immersion either, but instant travel somehow doesnt feel right.
Nay!
They should add things which brings players together, like a new carrier ship which you can buy and thus use as a transport for ships only, it has better jump range but all it does is transporting ships in that way players will hire others to move their ships and in that you create content but sadly FD is not learning and the time is going quickly with very slow pace in which FD is developing this game towards more Solo rather than Multi player features...
They should add things which brings players together, like a new carrier ship which you can buy and thus use as a transport for ships only, it has better jump range but all it does is transporting ships in that way players will hire others to move their ships and in that you create content but sadly FD is not learning and the time is going quickly with very slow pace in which FD is developing this game towards more Solo rather than Multi player features...
That's way too long. My Corvette would trod 120ly within 10 minutes.
I suppose that it will not be mandatory to use the ship transport and that will be possible to travel the old fashioned way, right ?
So, everyone can play the game in his/her preferred style. Instant ship transfer will be only an option. This sounds OK for me.
BTW, the NPC ships are instantly spawned since beginning of this game and sometimes they are instantly travelling distances they should not be able to fly too.
So, everyone can play the game in his/her preferred style. Instant ship transfer will be only an option. This sounds OK for me.
BTW, the NPC ships are instantly spawned since beginning of this game and sometimes they are instantly travelling distances they should not be able to fly too.
Transport - Yay
Instantaneous - Booh
Small time delay would be awesome
And afcourse price should heavily increase the further its needs to travel
Instantaneous - Booh
Small time delay would be awesome
And afcourse price should heavily increase the further its needs to travel
Many times I wondered about this. I don't believe Braben is much involved with the game mechanics, he probably delegates that to another dev (Sandro perhaps?..) and keeps focusing on the galaxy, planets etc.
I believe that because ED sometimes seems like it is being developed by 2 completely different companies at the same time.
On one hand we have the realistic(ish) simulated galaxy and celestial objects, planetary formations generated by realistic principles, even a real existing theory for the FSD. We have awesome ships, stations, bases, a very satisfying flight model which is affected by a lot of factors, etc.
On the other hand, we (will) have ship teleportation, skimmers that disable engines and shields when touched, ships that will be able to keep farting out other spaceships at will, ships being ble to be used as bumper cars, using ramming as a normal combat mechanic, extreme module buffs that make possible to boost into achenar 3 at full speed and barely lose a ring of shields, cops and pirates that will instantly locate you as soon as you load some cargo or pickup some asteroid fragment, etc...
That kinda negates the reasons for having the option in the first place though. So you have a conflict zone near you and your combat ship is on the other side of the bubble, you have to wait 3 -4 hours to get it? Come on, nobody is going to do that are they.
This is the issue, you make the time too long and people wont use it, you make the time too short and people say its 'immersion breaking'. I can't see a value inbetween where you are going to please everyone on this.
So you could get some utility out of the other FSD mods that aren't just Longer Range and avoid 'cookie cutter' ships as some people have mentioned.
An FDL makes better sense with a faster cycling FSD in CZ or REZ than it does with a long range drive.
To fly an FDl any distance is annoying as it has to stop at every star like an incontinent dog at every lamp post!
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Hmmm.... I'm reluctant to speak too soon. I'm not so sure about the instantaneous thing, but I think I'm just going to wait this one out and see what comes of it.
In the meantime... I found this piece of concept art for VIP transport missions...
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The more I think about it, the more I don't like the instantaneous thing. "Yay!" for ship transport, though.
In the meantime... I found this piece of concept art for VIP transport missions...
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The more I think about it, the more I don't like the instantaneous thing. "Yay!" for ship transport, though.
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What you said, but it'd also be more "interesting" if there was an element of risk that you accepted when asking for your ship back. A certain percentage that it could be interdicted/destroyed/stolen en route, lessened the more you are willing to pay for better and more reputable "couriers".
Not good, because only one way of optimal play will by fly in three ships - conda/asp//dbe.
Being poor, in poor ship, without mods is also an option, but this will lead to nowhere, as flying in Vette 30 minutes instead 4 minutes in asp+ship transfer.
The same is making money. Someone is like mining, but mining is not profitable, so he is not doing mining, because this have no sense, because he can do sothis whitch he do not like, but this is an optimal and logical.
So if you want to be on the top, then you need to use insta travel and fly at sothis. Of course you can be a tragic romantic hero with nothing, and consider everything as an option and choice.
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