Gamescom 2016: am I the only one disappointed?

[znôrt]

I always prefer developers who promise little, talk about the future sparingly and then deliver more than they hyped.

I'm fed up with those who do the exact opposite (looking at you CIG or RSI or whatever they are called this week).

Look at how NMS turned out. Exactly how I said it would but there were those up in arms against me, claiming it would blow ED out of the water when it launched. Well, did it? No, of course not.


The best course of action for FD now is to hype as little as possible, talk only about the things they are absolutely sure are release-worthy and keep on building trust for the future. Not by talking and marketing but working and delivering.

The product should speak for itself. It shouldn't need developers talking it into high heavens.

agree, and there's no doubt elite is actually that one and only first person space-sim that stands out, unrivaled. but, tbh, competition isn't tough at all, if any. aaaand ... we want moar!! because we love it.

however i personally want more of the basic stuff: galaxy environment, core gameplay, bgs. we've had more than enough minigames already. the decline in traction is very evident too. let's hope they do have some cards up their sleeves, or that this is at least no sign of the end of the road being 'dangerously' near. i had cleared my agenda for at least a decade!

 

[Iskariot]

Hi,
I've seen all the streams and I agree that the 2.2 is a good step ahead, I'm not crazy about the "passenger stuff", but I'll appreciate a lot all other features (carriers, route planner, ship transfer...)
My disappointment is coming somewhere else: at Gamescom 2015 we've seen the Horizon trailer, it was great and now we're playing with this great expansion, but this years there's nothing about 3.0/season 2017
What's next? Walkable stations (IMHO: meh)? Landable worlds (IMHO: great!!!!), but first of all: are the new things at least at alpha stage?
I'm a lifetime owner, so this is also impacting my spent money....

I just wanted to share my POV

bye

S72

I bet we will get news about 3.0 after the release of 2.4.
FD was not talking about 2.0 either when they were about to release 1.2
That simply is FD's modus operandi. Always has been.
I bet if they wanted to they could tell us now what they plan to do for 4.0 and 5.0.
But they will spill the beans when it is time to eat them.

 

[Privata]

I love it all , it was blowing my face away...
Until they gave us magic ship transfer

 

[Calebe]

I liked what I saw and was hoping to see what season 3 will be about, but I can wait (I don't want to, but no option). To my way of thinking I rather then announce less and deliver more then announce big and deliver less.
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ALso so much talk about how SC will blow ED out of the water, well so far they haven't done anything of note but a very buggy alpha or is it still a pre-alpha? How many remember the great Star Marine reveal and how it would be so great. when it got close it was weeks away. Months pass, and then said it was indefinitely delayed. Then no it isn't and then my all time favorite well Star Marine is already in the game. Wow without a patch or anything it magically was in game and people said oh ya he is right it was in game. Fool me once comes to mind. I digress though. Now they show 3.0 and how great it will be, however all you hyping it, have you played it yet? Oh no you haven't, but soon. Well till you can it is like anything else, I can promise anythng it is delivering it, is all that matters. I think of it as a magical lottery ticket. I actually have one that has a 50-50 chance of winning it all. Yes it is true 50-50 chance. Now you wonder how? Easy the ticket can win or lose. Basic of course but it is true of any ticket bought it can win or lose so 50-50. wait I know the odds of it losing are 150,000,000 to one and winning is 1 in 150,000,000. True but pure basics and that is SC promising so much, and yet did they not say the release will be a MINIMAL VIABLE PRODUCT? why yes they did. Just remember that with all their big talk at least till they deliver.
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Calebe

 

[Jools]

That's his job. It is then the job of people like Adam Woods and Sandro Sammarco as producers and designers to make that a reality in some way and time.

The problem is... I no longer believe people like Sandro are a best fit for a game like Elite

Sandros previous games
http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,162400/

I have trouble imagining this, rather lighthearted and in a good way "silly" (no offence really) man, to do Elite franchise justice and with his former projects being so different to what Elite is it looks even worse... I mean.. Haze?

 

[Huggy]

I liked what FD showed, but let's be honest, FD only had enough new content to stream for the first two days, and then repeated the same videos and content the following two days, disappointing, could they not have talked about some bug fixes even??? More disappointing was that not one bit of information was given on 2.3, 2.4 and 3.0!!!

 

[Colonel Kenney]

Everything coming is good. I can't complain about it at all. Do I wish maybe they improved upon some other areas first? Yeah probably.

Design decisions have never been their strong suit.

Notice how Powerplay was pretty much never even mentioned the entire time. I think they learned their lesson with it. Hopefully major overhaul is underway.

 

[Huggy]

The problem is... I no longer believe people like Sandro are a best fit for a game like Elite

Sandros previous games
http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,162400/

http://i.imgur.com/L1Ltqtj.jpg

I have trouble imagining this, rather lighthearted and in a good way "silly" (no offence really) man, to do Elite franchise justice and with his former projects being so different to what Elite is it looks even worse... I mean.. Haze?

IMHO the FD team/developers, especially Sandro, have done a great job so far, I totally love the passion they have for the game, and passion always makes a great game!!!

 

[Darrett]

Everything coming is good. I can't complain about it at all. Do I wish maybe they improved upon some other areas first? Yeah probably. Design decisions have never been their strong suit. Notice how Powerplay was pretty much never even mentioned the entire time. I think they learned their lesson with it. Hopefully major overhaul is underway.

I hope so too. Powerplay is in desperate need of a revamp to integrate it with the rest of the game. It currently makes very little sense both from a design and a logic standpoint. It really should have been built from the ground up to be a layer of internal politics, backstabbing, and dirty dealings below the superpower level, rather than a cosmic game of Risk.

 

[Drink!]

I would love to hear about season 3...and 4 and 5 etc, but we are not there yet. Its a "10 year" game and major updates are done (at least it was planned) quarterly.
I actually wish some kind of info about the rest of season 2 was provided, I won't allow that lack of into to ruine my enjoyment of 2.2.

 

[GraXXoR]

Fan of space games? Now is the Best.Time.Ever

Seriously, space games are like busses, wait years and three come along.

Bravo.

Disappointment?

No dolphin? Srsly?
Keelback still sucks goat balls.
No Commodity storage.
Instant ship transport
Engineered items are still random as F..k
Power Pray is still the poster child for 21st century programming fail.

Still,
2.2 was actually a bit meatier than I anticipated.

In order of excitement.

Aliens
Map router
Module storage
SIN contact
New interiors
New stellar visuals for neutron stars etc.
New locations - dock, CQC stations etc.
VIP missions
Vulture kit looks sick
Beluga
Fighters
Fighter pilot NPCs
Standard class Passengers

 

[Jools]

passion always makes a great game!!!

I used to believe that too (well it was true for some time)
I no longer do

games are a huge business now, and we just cannot clone david...
It used to be one or two man writing code in a basement... in such an environment passion and talent of those individuals is all that is needed
Managing a huge company and over 100 people strong teams is an entirely different story

I wish it were different

 

[Lobstris]

Sandro was a designer on "Republic: The Revolution"? Now there was a game that promised the Earth, had a unique concept, and failed to deliver on it. Demis Hassabis was almost the Sean Murray, and Republic, the NMS of its day.

 

[Atebits]

I'm mostly grumpy with the state of options for exploration ships. There was no mention of exploration in that whole thing except that people are doing it and they're excited about it or have noticed. Yay. That was nice PR talk, but it did nothing to improve my opinions of the state of exploration, our crappy little cockpits, and etc.

However, I think this next bit of content is much needed and the pace of development is on track to meet that. So, for all my complaints. Eh. It'll get there when it gets there.

 

[Enderby]

When's SC out?

 

[hood1]

That's his job.

No, David's job is selling the game. That leaves no time for designing it or even playing it. Fortunately to do his job he needs to know nothing more about the game than e.g. do the artists who create his trailers.

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Look at how NMS turned out. Exactly how I said it would but there were those up in arms against me, claiming it would blow ED out of the water when it launched. Well, did it? No, of course not.

Oh?? NMS in two weeks has outsold ED in two years.

 

[Khavi]

Yes and no, yes because there was some cool stuff coming that looked good...no because we're still waiting on things we were promised long ago...like the 3D system star map. This was one of the things they showed us early on.

Plus, after all this time and we still can't name our ships? They can give us paint jobs, bobble heads...but we still can't name our ships? Seriously...it is pass due.

Where are comets?

Walking around and exploring with an avatar...when? We've been told this was coming...when? Don't be like CCP and EVE Online and not deliver this...this was another selling point that we're all still waiting on. Doing EVA's on derelict ships and salvaging would be a great way to add lots of new content. I hope we don't have to wait another two years for walking in stations - because by then I'll all ready be doing it in Star Citizen.

You have to admit that Star Citizen demo was just awesome.

 

[Patrick_68000]

Not disappointed by Gamescom. I hope a nice trailer for the release of the beta

 

[LKx]

I bet we will get news about 3.0 after the release of 2.4.

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I think that 2.4 is supposed to be released WITH 3.0, like 1.5

 

[Cmdr Eagleboy]

I bet we will get news about 3.0 after the release of 2.4.
FD was not talking about 2.0 either when they were about to release 1.2
That simply is FD's modus operandi. Always has been.
I bet if they wanted to they could tell us now what they plan to do for 4.0 and 5.0.
But they will spill the beans when it is time to eat them.

2.4 is most likely released at same time as 3.0