Does that mean we can discuss the semantics between a CrumpetEater and a CarpetMuncher? No offence intended btw....
Engineers I want to get upgrades without using the moon buggy please
Does that mean we can discuss the semantics between a CrumpetEater and a CarpetMuncher? No offence intended btw....
or does it mean, we can without reading anything in this thread, just talk about how grand I think this game would be if moonbutterflys where coming from Mountains of Madness and take us to the Plateu of Lengh to see the King in Yellow contemplating over the city of Carcosa! Pleas I want it.
No! That's absolutely out of the table! Haven't you read the forum rules?
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Hi Crumpeteater -
I think the idea behind collecting materials in the SRV is FD's way of getting (most) players to experience new content. Many have taken their SRV's and driven around hundreds of kilometres collecting materials on distant moons. Getting to know the scanner blips' sounds and learning to handle the SRV in different gravity levels has been a fun exercise for me at least.
But as some are finding, the SRV gives them motion sickness, and others (you included, I suspect) just want to fly spaceships and have little need to get down and dusty on a planet/moon.
As others have said, most materials can be picked up in space (lots of ship scanning, wake scanning for data materials), quite a few can be picked up from destroyed ships, and some engineer commodities can be picked up as mission rewards.
But its the elemental materials that you'll probably find most difficult to collect without putting in at least some SRV time. You can find elemental materials (carbon, sulphur and the like) by mining asteroids, but the drop rate is pretty low - a typical rock might drop one or two compared to 10-20 regular mineable chunks.
With a detailed surface scanner, you can scan and pick moons with elements you need/want to collect - but you have to collect them using the SRV. Once you're on the moon its fairly random, but definitely faster than asteroid mining.
For now, just pick up anything you see - you'll soon learn to sort the common stuff and keep the rarer bits for upgrades. Scanning ships should bring in lots of data materials, so you won't be penalised in that area. If you do a lot of combat in RES's you'll probably be ahead of many with that.
Good luck, commander.
I think the idea behind collecting materials in the SRV is FD's way of getting (most) players to experience new content. Many have taken their SRV's and driven around hundreds of kilometres collecting materials on distant moons. Getting to know the scanner blips' sounds and learning to handle the SRV in different gravity levels has been a fun exercise for me at least.
But as some are finding, the SRV gives them motion sickness, and others (you included, I suspect) just want to fly spaceships and have little need to get down and dusty on a planet/moon.
As others have said, most materials can be picked up in space (lots of ship scanning, wake scanning for data materials), quite a few can be picked up from destroyed ships, and some engineer commodities can be picked up as mission rewards.
But its the elemental materials that you'll probably find most difficult to collect without putting in at least some SRV time. You can find elemental materials (carbon, sulphur and the like) by mining asteroids, but the drop rate is pretty low - a typical rock might drop one or two compared to 10-20 regular mineable chunks.
With a detailed surface scanner, you can scan and pick moons with elements you need/want to collect - but you have to collect them using the SRV. Once you're on the moon its fairly random, but definitely faster than asteroid mining.
For now, just pick up anything you see - you'll soon learn to sort the common stuff and keep the rarer bits for upgrades. Scanning ships should bring in lots of data materials, so you won't be penalised in that area. If you do a lot of combat in RES's you'll probably be ahead of many with that.
Good luck, commander.
I don't know if this will help the OP, but I personally hate SRV driving. Because of that, I've concentrated on my Engineering grind with minimal time spent planetside. While I personally spent maybe 5 total hours looking for stuff when I was busy unlocking everything, I haven't driven my SRV in about 4 weeks. I've managed to accumulate a ton of mats, sourced from everywhere, by simply doing missions often. You CAN get every mat from missions as far as I've seen, though some of them are exceedingly rare.
Nope, I missed out on all of that funzies!
I don't think I even had Horizons for the most part of it. Then I disappeared off to Sagittarius A*. Lol
I tend not to follow all the story stuff, because;
A) I've missed so much I'd have to spend a month reading up on it all.
B) All the best events happen exactly when I'm not online.
If i get this new job (fingers crossed!), I'll hopefully have more time to play, and even better, more money to spend on my somewhat prehistoric PC.
I wouldn't call the mining drop rate low for the common materials (carbon, iron, nickel, phosphorus, sulphur). I'm constantly having to stop to throw those away. I even have to purge germanium, manganese, molybdenum, zinc and zirconium occasionally.
Funny thing there is, when I started collecting mats, I would do mining trips without a refinery just to get them. now I have far too many.
I can't believe the number of times I have said this.
Sure, you can play your own way. You can do what you want.
It doesn't mean that everything will be handed to you on a silver platter.
On one hand you're telling me you want to play the game how you choose, but on the other you're telling me you feel the need to subscribe to every mod that needs them mats?
Which one it gonna be, Son?
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StiTch, cannot see where I asked for that.
For combat upgrades I want to do combat missions.....not knitting. Make em far and wide, need to use pirate equipment whatever....but no moon buggies please.
Could make it really dangerous (need to take out waves of escorts) and take more time, that is not the issue.
The issue for me is (as Kornelius said more or less) micromanaging 600 resources with an excel spreadsheet is not fun and further for me moon buggies are not fun at all and also make me feel bad.
However all has been answered enough.
It seems everyone loves Engineers which is a surprise to me.
I feel like just playing DCS for the moment (I only flightsim otherwise and have a simpit) and see how I feel about it later rather than get frustrated.
Thanks to those trying to be helpful esp Limoncello Lizard.
For combat upgrades I want to do combat missions.....not knitting. Make em far and wide, need to use pirate equipment whatever....but no moon buggies please.
Could make it really dangerous (need to take out waves of escorts) and take more time, that is not the issue.
The issue for me is (as Kornelius said more or less) micromanaging 600 resources with an excel spreadsheet is not fun and further for me moon buggies are not fun at all and also make me feel bad.
However all has been answered enough.
It seems everyone loves Engineers which is a surprise to me.
I feel like just playing DCS for the moment (I only flightsim otherwise and have a simpit) and see how I feel about it later rather than get frustrated.
Thanks to those trying to be helpful esp Limoncello Lizard.
No worries Crumpeteater - noone should be forced (in a sandbox game) into Activity X to get Item Y.
Hope you find the way to upgrade your way!
Hope you find the way to upgrade your way!
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No worries Crumpeteater - noone should be forced (in a sandbox game) into Activity X to get Item Y.
Hope you find the way to upgrade your way!
At the same time sandbox game is definitely not about getting everything from A to Z.
Like the OP, the only thing I don't do in the game is buggy riding. Mainly because I didn't get the hang of it. Got one disengaged once but couldnt work out how to drive it and the game wasnt going to help me on that..
Am finding that I dont really need to as the latest engineers dont require it and through other means i have pretty much all i need for most of the mods. There will be a few that will be closed to me but i can live with that
Am finding that I dont really need to as the latest engineers dont require it and through other means i have pretty much all i need for most of the mods. There will be a few that will be closed to me but i can live with that
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Good to know, thanks Mikey2305. For me it would have additionally required different hardware than my flightsim setup to do the way I like (more simlike) as well.
[HJ]-RedRaven, thanks also and I agree. Most perhaps want this much more a game though rather than more simlike.
[HJ]-RedRaven, thanks also and I agree. Most perhaps want this much more a game though rather than more simlike.
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You're basically saying the game isn't written to your specifications, so that's a problem.
For the record, you CAN get the majority of mats doing combat only. Always take cargo, limpets, and a collector controller to any RES you visit. Collect the pieces of your enemies. Go to war systems. Pick up the multitude of combat missions, choosing those with mats over just a credit payout, go blow ships up.
You can happily get low-level mods with a single mat now, generally not anything hard to come by. So there's only a problem if you want a higher grade mod that genuinely has a mat you cannot earn through combat missions. As for the commodities, ask the right people instead of whining and they may offer to trade you the mining commodities when needed.
By the sounds of it, your idea of "playing your own way" is having the whole game re-written to suit you. No, there should be no option so you can play the game and achieve everything in the same way as if you weren't doing combat.
If you want to "play your way" then damn well play your way and get on with it. Go out there, shoot stuff, work out how to achieve your goal. The concept that you want to lock yourself to a playstyle, but in the process accumulate everything you can possibly achieve and by methods that are non-combat based, is simply too self contradictory.
And to add a more personal note, if you need a spreadsheet for managing your modding, you're doing it wrong - and certainly not "playing your way". I just go visit the damn RNGineer, get a few low-level mods, look through his list to see what higher level mods I can achieve just by buying the commodity and what I can achieve with an extra mat I know how to farm. I then go get said resources and not once opened Excel. If I really want to achieve a particular mod I look it up and it's requirements using Inara (for the record that has a resource manager on it) and then - hint of the century incoming - we happen to have a materials panel in game just under where our cargo is. Who would have known that your current materials are listed in game for you to see! And the best bit...it updates itself for you!
Excel sheet? Who the hell?
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I am quite the opposite to most, I can't just jump honk jump honk, which would get me moving a lot quicker than I do.
Jump honk scan planet land on if laudable have a good old drive around scoop bits of stuff, come across occasional downed ship put pilot in cry pod out of misery as have no cargo space! Drive some more overcook that steep icy hill climb! Recall ship move to another spot on planet see if available stuff is different depending on location and type of terrain, move to several more spots with ship take off scan next planet etc land etc deploy buggy etc drive etc sit around waiting for other system bodies to give nice photo op, I have spent several weeks on the same planet occasionally, not done any engineering apart from in beta as there are none out here.
As you can tell probably I quite enjoy my time in the buggy.
Weird huh?
Jump honk scan planet land on if laudable have a good old drive around scoop bits of stuff, come across occasional downed ship put pilot in cry pod out of misery as have no cargo space! Drive some more overcook that steep icy hill climb! Recall ship move to another spot on planet see if available stuff is different depending on location and type of terrain, move to several more spots with ship take off scan next planet etc land etc deploy buggy etc drive etc sit around waiting for other system bodies to give nice photo op, I have spent several weeks on the same planet occasionally, not done any engineering apart from in beta as there are none out here.
As you can tell probably I quite enjoy my time in the buggy.
Weird huh?
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Whole game? As a programmer I see the adjustment as trivial.
I thank you for informing me you can get low level materials doing only combat.
Concept?
Is the information on Inara a table? How big is it?
Noogillim, good for you
I thank you for informing me you can get low level materials doing only combat.
Concept?
Is the information on Inara a table? How big is it?
Noogillim, good for you
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Whole game? As a programmer I see the adjustment as trivial.
I thank you for informing me you can get low level materials doing only combat.
Concept?
Is the information on Inara a table?
Noogillim, good for you
Why don't you find out for yourself?
http://inara.cz/galaxy-blueprints
Browse, find magic.
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I suggest you point this out as a barrier to gameplay, and you'll be granted the ability to insta-spawn-by-magic anything you need because, well who needs reasons in the new Elite?
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Stitch, thank you for the Inara spreadsheet link - comprehensive.
Yaffle, I never said anything about instant - I suggested the opposite.
Yaffle, I never said anything about instant - I suggested the opposite.
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