Should ship transfers have a time delay or not?

[WR3ND]

Another poll? Ugh.

Ok, in favour of a delay, but voted for instant just be contrary. I understand some people feel this is a battle for the heart and soul of ED, but some of the hysterics, exaggerations, and misunderstandings in the previous thread beggars belief. Not read this one, but presume its the same people having the same discussion all over again.

And no surprises with the poll results. About the same as the other one. Just made more binary. At this point, i'd have really liked a third option of "Beyond caring"

Not sure why this thread was allowed to live, but hey ho, I didn't make the call.

Heh. Kind of surprised you don't start a thread with a poll for "beyond caring – yes or no."

I started this thread as I think it's an important distinction to make regarding the general community preference for this new game feature and because many others had requested it in that other thread.

Cheers.

 

[Ozram]

Indeed it was requested.

 

[K1eaner]

I've voted for the delay in ship delivery, sure, realism is something and this is afterall a game, but something just feels off when a credit rich CMDR can summon a fighter within seconds and get into the fight, would throw off the balance in gameplay when a fight starts in a star system.

I agree with the posts where people have stated that the distance between starports should decide the delay. That would give some balance, throwing money to get the ship faster at the desired dock is something that I would not recommend Frontier do.

 

[RwD]

I think it's pretty clear what the majority of us wants, and i hope FD takes notes and introduces this feature. Otherwise there will be more drama on this subject when the patch comes out.

 

[Henri]

If FD implements CQC style power ups in conflict zones or another arcade like feature then I am off.

 

[Agony_Aunt]

It's a more refined poll that gets to the core of the topic at hand? Why bother with a vote if you're beyond caring? As you say, for us this is a battle for the heart and soul of the game.

To register my lack of caring of course!

For all we know there could be 99% of the forum users who do not care one way or another

 

[Julio Montega]

Is asking the question if there is a time delay or not the real deal for us?

Isn't the right question to ask if we wish to "summon" a ship to our actual location,
or to be able to send it to a remote location we can select without being physically there?

The summoning stuff is easy to implement, as it skips core thoughts that are required
when simulating transfer to a selected remote location:

- the destination you set might be highly dangerous, leading the transportation service to charge premiums, or even decline the transport
- the destination you select might be in a star cluster, where your ship can't even jump to (stars to far from each other for jumps)
- the destination might not be reached by your ship without a scoop, so the service has to fuel up charging you for fuel and refueling services
- the transportation may be simulated as an NPC taking your ship for a spin, getting damaged or destroyed

So the latter mechanic is a lot more complex demanding more time to develop,
but imo for a way better outcome than simplicity summoning a ship.

 

[Agony_Aunt]

Heh. Kind of surprised you don't start a thread with a poll for "beyond caring – yes or no."

I started this thread as I think it's an important distinction to make regarding the general community preference for this new game feature and because many others had requested it in that other thread.

Cheers.

Yeah, read your OP.... but can't start my own. Some damn mod would come along and lock it.

 

[m0rl0ck]

There is a lot that X3 got right that FD could learn from. The mechanics of multiple ship ownership is just one example.

 

[Hellhawk666]

Voted "yes".

A 1:1 delay (or the most reasonable approximation the game can make). Why is Sandro trying to turn Elite Dangerous into Elite Instant Gratification? That loach must be controlling his brain.

 

[m0rl0ck]

Voted "yes".

A 1:1 delay (or the most reasonable approximation the game can make). Why is Sandro trying to turn Elite Dangerous into Elite Instant Gratification? That loach must be controlling his brain.

Because the easy fix is easy. And yeah i agree a one to one delay is reasonable.

 

[Julio Montega]

Voted "yes".

A 1:1 delay (or the most reasonable approximation the game can make). Why is Sandro trying to turn Elite Dangerous into Elite Instant Gratification? That loach must be controlling his brain.

Because every mechanice tied to ships, allowing the CMDR to fly (you are the ship not the CMDR in E: D up to now)
does not require unnecessary downtime.

 

[TenakaFurey]

If we get a delay for ship transfer, we should get a delay for the insurance screen too. It should be exactly as long as it takes to transport an escape capsule from where you were destroyed back to where you last docked. To make it even more realistic and immersive, the delay should also include the time it takes for a rescue ship to respond, get to and find your capsule and return to the nearest port capable of rebuilding your ship with all modules, and the time to get from there to your previus port.

Any compromise on this would only break immersion.

Any takers?

First - this is an example of where gameplay is best served
Second - there is no other viable solution.
Third - It doesn't have the same issues or problems. You "die". You lose time. You lose money. You lose your cargo. You get sent back where you were. Instant transit OTOH causes various issues with immersion in order to solve a gameplay issue that has numerous solutions.

 

[Cargobane]

This is so funny. Supposedly, in a 400Ly bubble where about 10,000 ships BGS thier cargo, kills, and piracy DAILY.... and every 100KM of space is filled with USS nausea.... We can't simply fathom how a simple ship transfer system might work.

Just bring on the Diamond$ to Motivate my Lasers for 2hrs of +10 Heat Damage.

 

[Cosmo]

Yes, ship transfers should have a time delay.

Add capital freighters to simulate ship transportation. NPCs should be hire-able to transport your ships.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Another poll? Ugh.

Ok, in favour of a delay, but voted for instant just be contrary. I understand some people feel this is a battle for the heart and soul of ED, but some of the hysterics, exaggerations, and misunderstandings in the previous thread beggars belief. Not read this one, but presume its the same people having the same discussion all over again.

And no surprises with the poll results. About the same as the other one. Just made more binary. At this point, i'd have really liked a third option of "Beyond caring"

Not sure why this thread was allowed to live, but hey ho, I didn't make the call.

You can always not reply you know.

If you didn't read and don't care.

 

[Cmdr Cheese Wedge]

Why yes, yes they should.
For realism and for science.

Magic has no place in my reality.

Add an extra mode: ARCADE
That should keep the kiddies amused.
The rest of us immersion junkies can keep OPEN or SOLO. (With delayed ship transfers)

A win/win for everyone.

 

[Mortos]

No delays. I was surprised this feature wasn't in the game to begin with. I could understand docking, jumping, even fuel scooping can be a mini game of sorts. But this? Nah.

And since some of you will think of me as entitled or spoiled, I might as well live up to it. I want the ship I spent time and credits on so I can use it on this New part of the galaxy I spent time and credits on another ship to get to. And no, I don't want to wait a single minute just because other people think it breaks immersion. It doesn't. Not for me.

You know what's worse? I got used to going back for my ships. I'd be fine with delays. But then you read the forums and man... Now I Just want FD to double down on this just see the reaction.

 

[Marc_Hicks]

Why yes, yes they should.
For realism and for science.

Magic has no place in my reality.

Add an extra mode: ARCADE
That should keep the kiddies amused.
The rest of us immersion junkies can keep OPEN or SOLO. (With delayed ship transfers)

A win/win for everyone.

We already have that mode-CQC and Arena.

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No delays. I was surprised this feature wasn't in the game to begin with. I could understand docking, jumping, even fuel scooping can be a mini game of sorts. But this? Nah.

And since some of you will think of me as entitled or spoiled, I might as well live up to it. I want the ship I spent time and credits on so I can use it on this New part of the galaxy I spent time and credits on another ship to get to. And no, I don't want to wait a single minute just because other people think it breaks immersion. It doesn't. Not for me.

You know what's worse? I got used to going back for my ships. I'd be fine with delays. But then you read the forums and man... Now I Just want FD to double down on this just see the reaction.

You are acting all entitled and spoilt. Good you admit to it. Having a delay on ship transport doesn't impede your ability to enjoy the game one bit.

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Yes, ship transfers should have a time delay.

Add capital freighters to simulate ship transportation. NPCs should be hire-able to transport your ships.

Yeah, bring back the Lynx Bulk Carrier .

 

[Agony_Aunt]

You can always not reply you know.

If you didn't read and don't care.

I did read the OP, i just didn't read the rest of the comments, since my expectations about the quality of the debate were set by the other thread on the topic.

And i do care about the feature. I'm looking forward to getting ships transportation in, with or without delay. It will be very useful for me. As i've pointed out in other threads, the in-game difference between zero delay and full delay in most circumstances is really minimal. Its only for extreme cases (eg: Jacques) where it would make a significant difference. Even then, with full delay, you could arrive, do some exploration or whatever for a day or so until your summoned ship arrives.

For those who don't like it beceause of lore, i don't view it as lore. Nowhere in the lore is it saying ships can instantly transport. Its just a mechanic that might be shoehorned in if FD decide to keep it.

Besides, there is still time for FD to add a delay.