At best it would encourage people to summon fighters long outside the bubble where all the alien action will be.
But truthfully, I think we need to lower our expectations into the PEGI 7 category where this game firmly wants to reside.
The Galaxy - Is its size now considered to be a barrier to gameplay by the Developers?
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At best it would encourage people to summon fighters long outside the bubble where all the alien action will be.
But truthfully, I think we need to lower our expectations into the PEGI 7 category where this game firmly wants to reside.
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Science laddy.. [haha]
++rep.
I've got the Art book. Oh yes.
One does get attached to 'home' - that ship that you care for and that cares for you.
Are pilots and sea/space farers going to be so devoid of soul in 3300?[sad]
Who knows.. Yet whilst the feature hasn't been implmented its not unreasonable for folks to air their views. Once the feature is implemented we are stuck with it unless it raises enough of a ruckas for them to rework it, like the way they had to rework RNGineers, at additional expense and dev time.
Time will tell. I've made my own thoughts known and think I'll go and watch Voyager on netflix now
Ironic that people are complaining about an unrealistic universe, and then you mention Voyager ...
Gameplay trumps Realism.
So don't think about it when you instantly transfer to another players ship.
Winter is coming?
Like in having thargoid controlled NPCs spawn with our name tags,
takin away our very existence in the game, being white walkers?
A very good reason for this feature is simply the background noise of the
forums crying for a means to have stuff transported due to engineers.
We asked for this abomination, but there is a desynchronisation in
what we and FD mean to implement.
Can we please make a 56k-modem handshake at 9600 Baud,
to circumvent jitter we have due to the digital age we live in (loss via modulating to ip and back)?
I think my high-pitched flute is somewhere here.
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It does feel that they're trying to make the galaxy smaller.
In the space of two or three weeks we've gone from the new bubble being a grim unforgiving space requiring planning to get there as well as what you'll need to bring with you, to a cookie-cutter standard station where everything you need to function is available and shortly we'll be able to just teleport our fleets over there to carry on playing in a 'frontier' which is the same as the current bubble in terms of mechanics, but with a different skybox.
All the while killing the need, and purpose of the multi-role ships.
In the space of two or three weeks we've gone from the new bubble being a grim unforgiving space requiring planning to get there as well as what you'll need to bring with you, to a cookie-cutter standard station where everything you need to function is available and shortly we'll be able to just teleport our fleets over there to carry on playing in a 'frontier' which is the same as the current bubble in terms of mechanics, but with a different skybox.
All the while killing the need, and purpose of the multi-role ships.
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There were two that I was aware of, they were referenced in 'Threadzilla' somewhere. All I can say is 'forum search fail' on my part.
So?
Before you would set out in mutliroles or long range fighters for combat missions... no you will use your ASP?
I know that I will use this system from time to time , but I should not... its terrible in my opinion , it removes the fact that you can get stranded in space.
Before you would see a CZ and either buy a cheap new ship or go back and get your better one. now its just instant magic.
If the system was timed in real time or even just half that it would be much better.
If you think its good gameplay , then you are lucky.
But for me it takes away so much from the game , its one step away from the the lifesim that braben talks about and one step into no mans's sky
Again, I've been into this in multiple threads about 1) All 'simulation' games have multiple aspects, 2) Those aspects are on a continuum from 'unrealistic' to 'realistic', 3) All 'simulation' games make trade offs in these aspects depending on their purpose - we can't recreate the universe , 4) Spaceship 'sims' aren't sims in the strictest sense as what is being simulated doesn't actually exist (the galaxy however, does, so Elite could claim to be a galaxy sim
Your 'they're making it more enjoyable one step at a time' is not correct for me. These decisions (along with PowerPlay, lack of consequences for allying to one faction not annoying others etc. etc.) are driving me away (or at least making me grumble and definitely not want to play Open). However, I can accept that they may work for the majority of 'not me' people.
I was going to do separate replies, but I think one will cover both
We're all in this game for different reasons and are looking to get different things out of it. Some of us are here for the immersion, the RP, the flight mechanics, the lore, the game design, the community, or the aesthetics etc etc.
There is not very many things that FDev can implement that will make every camp happy. This instant ship management being the most recent. For me personally, this is a god-send. I'm playing this game for the flight mechanics, space-combat, and aesthetics. I don't care about the lore, the stellar forge, etc etc that many of you seem to care a great deal about. I don't care if the ships are 3D printed, teleported, or holographic. I only care about outfitting and flying the ship that I want to fly, when I want to fly it, and where I want to fly it. Everything in between is a waste of my time.
I'm saying all this not to say that Elite: Dangerous should be tailored to my gamestyle, or any gamestyle for that matter, but that this gamestyle does exist and there is at least one paying customer (me
) that plays that way. I think it's a fantastic QOL addition that will help keep me (and maybe other people like me) in the game. They can't satisfy everyone all of the time, but they can satisfy some of us some of the time
Most insightful comment in 38 pages. It is the suspension of disbelief that will suffer. +rep
As you put it, yes
Salt and irony, a key piece of equipment 'ere
Actual gameplay, what do you foresee?
You clearly grasped a vision of the future
Obviously, it's got everything to do with how they think to implement the 'aliens' into the game.
IF they go with the method I'm picturing in my head (and it's the most fun among all others I can think of) you'll want to have your ship you can actually use to fight aliens right then and there.
What I'm picturing in my head is system wide attacks which will either have no warning or a very short heads-up but it'll be announced like a CG. Maybe an alien invasion sign on the galaxy map?
Then everyone who wants to participate in some anti (or maybe pro?) alien combat will have to go there ASAP to not miss the fun. If these are created based on the CG mechanic, they can have the effect of shutting down entire systems if not pushed back.
Of course, this is pure speculation and I have no idea if they'll do anything like this.
If this isn't the reason, I don't even want ship transfers, instant or otherwise. We are fine the way we are now.
FD having players buy paintjobs instantly without going to the store?
Like Winter is Coming to a far away station that is being attacked by Aliens.
With respect Ian, that's garbage. Betas are for testing functions, not atmosphere. That's why we used Fish to pay for mods in the Engineers Beta. Your suggestion completely misses that point.
It seems to me as if FD have decided they are behind schedule and have chosen the solution that uses the least development time. They know (in my opinion) that some sort of delay/any sort of delay would be better than the abra abracadabra - I want my Anaconda solution. It flies in the face of the inspiring comments DB has made as recently as Gamescon, it doesn't tally with what I've understood to be Michael Brookes' viewpoint over the last couple of years, ("Space is BIG") and Sandro's explanation on Lavecon was entirely unconvincing, paraphrasing "well, too short a time would be .......too short, and too long a time would be ......too long, so we went for instant." I love you Sandro, but that was pretty pathetic. Oh yes, and he said some guy during development wanted the journey from a star to a planet to take hours - well, that proves it then. Fun trumps reality. Instant it is.
No, I think this is a business decision, made consciously at the cost of the game's credibility. I don't believe this feature reflects the game they want to make.
The clue is in the 'second bubble' even existing as a thing. The first bubble took humanity 1100 years to build (albeit using hyperdrives, not FSDs), the second one has got to go a bit faster, or else people really would complain Elite 'takes too long to play'.
Interestingly, I was also told on social media that Jaques was an affront to PvP players as it was tantamount to deliberate favouritism of FDev to explorers by giving them a 'safe haven' where they couldn't be killed, without effort to get there. Strange how things are perceived isn't it?
Ive sorted the immersion issues in my own head, i don't think the exploits are worth the paper there written on that just leaves me with the positives so i,m officially OK with it.
I know many of you have not reached this point and i respect your resistance. you will have to decide for yourselves if it's worth quitting over, but their is no better game to go too. or you can bang on for another 500 pages personally i wont to go play so catch you later commanders.
I know many of you have not reached this point and i respect your resistance. you will have to decide for yourselves if it's worth quitting over, but their is no better game to go too. or you can bang on for another 500 pages personally i wont to go play so catch you later commanders.
They can't satisfy everyone all of the time, but they can satisfy some of us some of the time
Nah. You've seen these forums. They can't please any of us anytime.