The Galaxy - Is its size now considered to be a barrier to gameplay by the Developers?
- Thread starter Robert Maynard
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And those players DESERVE less hassle DAMMIT!
It's the empty return leg of the trip that's being replaced with the long range ship.
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Never, if they implement Instant delivery. There's no need for carriers, freighters or space truckers.
So when can we expect Lynx bulk carriers tugging our fleet around then?
Never, if they implement Instant delivery. There's no need for carriers, freighters or space truckers.
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So when can we expect Lynx bulk carriers tugging our fleet around then?
That would be pretty sweet if they could implement them and we could watch them like they're giant behemoths of ships moving around.
Oh man, now you've done it! I demand FD implement Lynx Bulk Carriers and LRCs ASAP!
I know, the lore says they can't jump far, but since we are messing around with lore anyway, just do it!
That would be pretty sweet if they could implement them and we could watch them like they're giant behemoths of ships moving around.
Yes it only makes sense if delivery takes TIME and it has to PHYSICALLY be moved around rather than teleported or 3D Printed.
All good, i,m not talking about anyone in particular, those of you that raged against the 10% know who you are, just reflect on this point.
Michael the poster Deadspin was replying to was not in fact talking about cargo being transferred - they were actually concerned with instant transport allowing Powerplay Fortification runs to become much shorter by warrent of the fact that the "return trip" back to the source of the Fortification supplies can now, with the introduction of ship transfer, be run in a fast non-hauler ship that is summoned to your location once the initial Fortification delivery is dropped off.
Once back at Fortification Base you simply summon back your hauler - so essentially you only need to do the risky trip in a trade ship on the outbound leg of the run, and can swap back to the safe fast ship for the return trip, rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat.
Hi Michael,
This affect on PP doesn't require cargo to be transferred - if I'm hauling fort packages out from Rhea to Shenggan the ship only needs to carry cargo on the outward leg, so instead of Rhea > Shenggan > Rhea in my T9 it becomes:
• Rhea > Shenggan (T9, full of fort and drop that off)
• Transfer empty taxi-Asp from Rhea to Shenggan
• Fly back to Rhea in 1/3 of the time, with less risk
• Transfer my T9 (which is sat in Shenggan and empty) back to Rhea
• Repeat
Suddenly fort becomes ~30% faster with significantly less risk - and it also skews it to the established players for whom cost isn't an issue. New PP players are going to have less of a chance to affect the outcome of fort/prep etc. because the big spenders will be able to increase their speed by a significant amount by shuffling ships around in this way. CGs will be similarly affected - the big spenders (for whom any price isn't really an issue) can do something like the above.
This explanation doesn't make any sense if ship delivery is instant. Because why can ships be delivered or 3D Printed instantly? BUT cargo must still be delivered the old-fashioned way?
The game and Elite universe will contradict itself.
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Ah, but it would reinforce the lore that that is how they are delivered. Don't confuse gameplay with lore. The lore behind death is we should eject and make out way to the nearest station, get out of our capsules, and apply via insurance for our replacement ships, which wouldn't be delivered instantly (in lore). And yet, we respawn with a click in an identically fitted ship, fitted with the same impossible to reproduce engineer modifications.
Gameplay != Lore
Remember that. But it doesn't means something like this couldn't be used to support the lore of ship transfer as opposed to *ugh* 3D printing. (Please devs, i know i've appealed before, but reconsider this lore explanation. It really is terribad).
And there is no need for other far more elaborated immersive hooks for gameplay
like corporations doing the ferrying, in game insurance frauds, etc.
Those very well are factors to me that are key to a
"living and breathing universe".
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Robert Maynard
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Yes....
Have you tried eating 3D printed models? And i don't think even in 3302 they will have 3D printed hydrogen... or biowaste. Even if they did... what would they be doing then with all that excess Biowaste that isn't being delivered because everyone is just printing biowaste... erm, or are they using biowaste to produce the 3D printed food?
Oh gods, Solyent Green is Biowaste!
Why not? Implement it as is for now, then in a future update we get a plausible reason for the delivery in universe.
Plus it would look cool seeing capital class signature size wakes appearing near stations to deliver the ships.
Could even get Amazon to sponsor 34 century one-click next-second deliveries LOL!
Easiest way would be to limit each ship to say 2 moves per 24Hour period that would short circuit most exploits.
Except the problem is more complex then that. In its most simple form you halve the risk/effort [Jumphauler to station /w goods->T9 back->jump hauler out again->repeat] not to mention this scenario from earlier in the thread:
Only way i see of dealing with this is to limit the number of jumps you can do in one ship, and then we are back to having a discussion about that, and at the very least this negates the argument about development time, cause that would need probably the same amount of effort to implement as a timer...
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