The Star Citizen Thread v5
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Letting a "community" steer your development does not create good games. It based on the false assumption that gamers know what they want. Most of them do not.
Also making design decisions based on game telemetry is even worse.
I don't think that's the point. Note that in the thread over there the OP was like "lol unless your response is OVERWHELMING we won't do anything about it". The point is there is material interaction between the developers and the community of a substantial nature, unlike the mess over at CIG. This doesn't necessarily lead to an automatically better game, but it does say something about "openness".
It really is. Search X game development time/process. Its not linear or hurdle free at all. The only similarities of Daikatana or Duke Nukem with Star Citizen is that they are both high profile games in the spotlight from very early. Theres plenty of reports online showing just that.
I agree, however its a good way to adjust your compass, in case your internal company compass got ruined
Thats really important to point out. If its not overwhelming they will not change plans because of vocal minority. That is VERY important to understand. And should have been in big bold letters!
This is patently false. Note the following quote regarding Daikatana, for example:
The more relevant similarity is in fact the continuing delays on the part of games like Daikatana and Duke Nukem. The other games you mentioned did not suffer delay after delay after delay, unlike these two examples and Star Citizen.
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If that is the case, then please, do provide these plentiful "reports" that you are hanging your rather flimsy argument up with.
Everything you have ever posted about anything here has been absolutely bunk. It has been proven time and again, and then you come back with silly Tumblr posts that are absolutely nonsense.
Game development is hard. Software development is hard. Project management is hard. HOWEVER, they aren't complete shoddy mess of fecal matter as long as they are properly managed which games like Daikatana, Duke Nukem Forever, UnReal II, and other shoddy games aren't... exactly like SC.
Duke Nukem Forever is actually exactly like SC. Over hyping, over promising, massive feature creep, constantly trying to one-up every game out there, completely mismanaged, and delays delays delays.
Completely pointless to point out the completely obvious since individuals like you are living in some blinded reality but this thing will not be what it promises to. It is already an epic mess, the very core of it is half-gluteus maximus that is shortcuts and '90s style triggers because there is no fidelity, there is no great realism, there is none of this "changing the face of gaming" delusions CR spouts.
I've been involved in a few bad games from early development that were just turds forever, a few mediocre games that got good as time went on and some good games that became great as time went on. SC is absolutely the first, has a slim chance of the second - assuming CR gets out of managing and someone competent takes over, but zero chance of the latter unless CR gets out of managing and they refactor again from the start.
Other games are already catching up to CR's "grand vision" and will surpass it before SC even has space cargo with grubby hands... or grabby hands.. or garbage hands...
Star Citizen : Biggest Delusional Space Shazbot Ever!
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Can confirm.
Players: We want X
Devs: Here is X
Players: We didn't want that X, we wanted this X
Devs: *sigh*
[video=youtube;2bIW0rkNNP8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bIW0rkNNP8[/video]
Cue faithful commandos sneering at poly counts and texture resolution (because Squadron 42 looks so much better on a PS4 Pro). CoD will sell many, many times more copies than S42, regardless. And CIG will need to refactor their animation engine again if they want to keep up with both CoD and Mass Effect, because both of those games are just crushing it in these trailers.
Cue faithful commandos sneering at poly counts and texture resolution (because Squadron 42 looks so much better on a PS4 Pro). CoD will sell many, many times more copies than S42, regardless. And CIG will need to refactor their animation engine again if they want to keep up with both CoD and Mass Effect, because both of those games are just crushing it in these trailers.
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To be fair, often enough players say they want X, devs deliver Y which is very close but misses a crucial bit to actually be X, and players are surprised how the devs could ever believe the players would want Y.
To be fair, often enough players say they want X, devs deliver Y which is very close but misses a crucial bit to actually be X, and players are surprised how the devs could ever believe the players would want Y.
C.f.: Engineers and Powerplay
But its how it happens often anyway. I've been there myself. Players said X, i thought i was giving them X (and anyway, some wanted X+Y, some want X-Y, and some wanted ABC instead). Its often a case of you are damned if you do and damned if you don't.
Yes, this is so true, I really what to see how they will implement MMO aspects in the overall gameplay balancing (explorer, combat, trade ships), fight with exploits, griefing and hackers already are "testing" the game and if course instancing issues..
People are so hyped and already dreaming about perfect experience in SC as trader, explorer, pirate, even Elite shows that in real life that experience can be a "little" different
You can always get a refund you know
heres the transcript of that question about finances.
Can anyone do a script that remove all the "you know" and "I mean"? It'd probably look like a TL;DR version of itself...
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Let's add "sort of" and "kind of" to the list too. Or is it important to understand the precision, fidelitiousness of the project?
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