Why is 10% loss OK for ships but not for modules?
2.2 - time to bring back 10% loss on module sale
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Why is 10% loss OK for ships but not for modules?
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Modules are cumulative and can be much more expensive. I'm not even a fan of it on ships, mainly because I've had to buy ships just to store modules. Ships can be held on to a lot longer than modules, though. There's no reason to sell a ship unless you really need the money.
I change the outfit of a few ships multiple times per session, just to fit the need. Throw in a fuel scoop to ensure I can make it. Remove the fuel scoop and add a cargo rack. Add a hangar so I can do some planetary stuff. Now I need a wake scanner for some data.
Basically, if I'm focused on materialcollection, I might be swapping modules every time I dock. I highly doubt there will be enough storage to cover that + all of my engineered stuff.
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I think the main effect will come in the form of budget constraints. Storing modules doesn't expand your budget to cover the refit costs for battle or trade. You've got to have that cash already, if you plan to store lots of expensive modules. Otherwise, take the loss on the used gear sales.
Very nice idea. And well illustrated with sound effects!
I don't change out my stuff that often -- I upgrade, then leave it be. And I typically do a bunch of research first instead of just outfitting via trial and error. That said, the metaphor of "used goods" doesn't seems to be applicable since every module is as sparkly clean and performs as well as the day it was installed. Real world depreciation is based on real world factors like wear and tear, supply/demand, etc. Stuff we just don't have in Elite. So this would be, as others have said, simply a tax and I don't see the point.
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No mate .. I'm from another dimension here to cause trouble .. what a dumb question
Can't speak for anyone else but my life is going great thanks - despite the news I have plenty to be happy / grateful about thanks
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Exactly .. my question to the OP earlier on : what is the game play aspect of bringing it back ?
To me .. a pointless "tax" ... again, so much of the game needs balancing that once completed would negate the need for such a move.
To supplement my above post. FDev could put in a real module economy based on supply and demand where module prices were determined by their scarcity -- cheaper near the areas of manufacture. More expansive farther away. How about being able to strip an opponent's ship and sell off choice modules.I could imagine traders making a profit by buying modules one place and selling them in another. There are lots of cool ways they could integrate these things into the economy.
Don't think that would go down well given the probability that the module in question (stolen from the player) will most likely be modded by Engineers .. and the effort required to do that would create such sweet drama threads it would make the current one look quite tame.
Now ... on a similar link of thinking though - player driven market for modules in itself I would welcome. Forget the stolen aspect - you make a mod; it's awesome; sell it on an open market. (However, from past experience* I already know the long term outcome - inflation would set in - prices would go mental - before you know it all but the best modules are worth billions and everything else chump change ... result : pointless)
*AH in Diablo 3 showed how bad things can get.
I was thinking more along the lines of prices determined by the BGS not by players via an Auction House -- that, I agree, would be a horrible idea.
I don't care about 10%. I'm loaded and anybody can earn 100 millions in a few hours (at worst) in this game. This is not about the money.
We need storage. We need a stash. We need a chest. We need a place to store stuff because this is *BASIC MMO STUFF* and FD should be *ASHAMED* this is not in game already, when it was available in APPLE II games back in the 70s.
This is getting ridiculous tbh.
No. Bad idea, no reason we need to do this. Literally being SDC except with game mechanics instead of pew pews. Thnx tho.
