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jasonbarron

jasonbarron
OP, it's too bad it cost you 10 mil, but you (hopefully) learned a valuable lesson; never leave your ship unattended. This goes big time at engineer bases and the like.

As a footnote; whining about your poor judgment on the forum is unseemly.
 

Devari

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jdaliix said:
Since I highly doubt Frontier will do anything about this guy, I decided to post this here. CMDR .... has now destroyed three of my ships illegally, having cost me about $10M in insurance. This last time was so low-life cowardly that he should be a kill on sight for everybody at all times. Well, unless this behavior is acceptable, which is as follows: I was stationary on the surface near Farseer in the no-fire zone. He attacked and destroyed my Fer-De-Lance while it was parked and I was away from the computer, returning just in time to launch and have him finish the job. Everyone, please kill this cowardly punk every chance you get, since despite what would have to be many criminal reports he still flies around and kills indiscriminately, even unprotected, unmanned ships. I'm happy to fight him, if I can find him, but I don't think his style is to fight anybody who can match him.
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If you play in Open, you need to be prepared to deal with other players who will engage in PVP on their own terms.

Last night I was flying back to my home base station when I was interdicted by a FDL and Clipper. I immediately submitted, then boosted away and charged my FSD so get the last few ls to the station. What I found was that even though players should be susceptible to long-charge FSD times they were somehow instantly re-interdicting me over and over. I suspect what was happening was that the CMDR that I submitted to had the long-FSD charge time, but the second wing member who jump into the low-wake instance had a normal FSD charge time. As a result the two of them could keep chain-interdicting me over and over. I eventually logged out via. the main menu (15 second delay) as my thermal shields kept me alive long enough to survive this with 4 pips to shields. Interestingly when I logged back into the game I was immediately back into the same instance with both of the ships present. Charged FSD and tried to get to the station, but this time I insta-failed the interdiction despite immediately submitting. Again, I simply logged out but the second time they almost destroyed me due to the longer FSD-charge time. As annoying as that process was, it taught me a lot about effective PVP hunting in a team with a second wingmate and what to watch out for in the future. I came very close to a 7.5 million rebuy on my Python but it gave me combat experience about chain-interdictions by other CMDRs that I will be much more careful about in the future.

That is the cost of playing in Open. There will be other CMDRs who are determined to destroy you for whatever reason (in my case probably my affililation with Li Yong-Rui) and they will become very good at it. If you find this intolerable, the solution is to play in Solo.
 

xondk

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jdaliix said:
Since I highly doubt Frontier will do anything about this guy, I decided to post this here. CMDR .... has now destroyed three of my ships illegally, having cost me about $10M in insurance. This last time was so low-life cowardly that he should be a kill on sight for everybody at all times. Well, unless this behavior is acceptable, which is as follows: I was stationary on the surface near Farseer in the no-fire zone. He attacked and destroyed my Fer-De-Lance while it was parked and I was away from the computer, returning just in time to launch and have him finish the job. Everyone, please kill this cowardly punk every chance you get, since despite what would have to be many criminal reports he still flies around and kills indiscriminately, even unprotected, unmanned ships. I'm happy to fight him, if I can find him, but I don't think his style is to fight anybody who can match him.
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Unfortunately this will happen in near any multiplayer game that has PvP elements, the youtuber corpsealot, basically explains it in a very nice way, and I've been saying the same for years over many games, including this forum previously, but this video sums it up nicely so I don't need to repeat myself ad nausea.
[video=youtube;VD7f6gOodYQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD7f6gOodYQ[/video]
 
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Susanna

Susanna
Hell Razor5543 said:
You do have to be careful that what you do cannot be interpreted as harassment, otherwise YOU will be reported.

There are always people who will find ways to spoil the fun of true Players. Initially these people would line up on the 'mail slot' with heavy weaponry, and when they saw a ship launch the person would open fire (so the unsuspecting Player would fly into a bullet storm). When the 'No Fire' zone was implemented said persons would then ram other Players (the person would be in a huge, heavyweight vessel). Then, when the Speeding rule was implemented, they switched to deliberately weakened vessels, so their victim would be deemed at fault. To overcome the Docking Computer (if the DC is in control it is not deemed as speeding, regardless of the speed the vessel is traveling at) the person would fire at their victim a moment or so before impact. This causes the DC to go offline (as you are now under attack YOU need to deal with it), and the Player is now back in control of their ship, responsible for what it is doing (and if it is travelling over 100, tough), and have to accept the consequences.

Because of this, when I am in a large (expensive) ship I remain below 100 when I am near a station. That way I do not fall victim to persons who would want to spoil my enjoyment.
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WOW. I didn't know most of that. +1 rep. I don't play in Open for many of the reasons covered (I just don't want the hassle), but useful to know anyway.

I recall a while ago npc's were ramming my ship while boosting away / towards a station and picking up a small annoying fine for this. So I'd redock and pay the fine as I prefer to keep a clean sheet. This seems to have stopped happening recently tho.
 

Hell Razor5543

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Susanna said:
WOW. I didn't know most of that. +1 rep. I don't play in Open for many of the reasons covered (I just don't want the hassle), but useful to know anyway.

I recall a while ago npc's were ramming my ship while boosting away / towards a station and picking up a small annoying fine for this. So I'd redock and pay the fine as I prefer to keep a clean sheet. This seems to have stopped happening recently tho.
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For a while the Authority NPC vessels were a bit aggressive in their scanning of other ships (it got known as "ram scanning" or "scan and ram"). The problem was that if a Player was travelling at speed and got hit by an Authority ship (that then blew up) the Station would then open fire on the Player. FDev had to take action because of it. This resulted in the Authority vessels being a lot more careful when approaching other ships (the scans now happen about 1KM away, and the Authority NPC tries to hold station at this distance from the ship they are scanning).

There are still people who make use of the "ramming game" to spoil the enjoyment of proper Players. The trick is to make sure you remain below 100 when in the No Fire zone around a Station. Some Players gripe about this, but my feeling is that if a Player wants to be safe near a Station they should abide by the Station rules. I had one occasion (when I was running a Community Goal) when a person was playing the "ramming game". I was always staying at around 90 within the No Fire zone. Result; 15 attacks, 15 destroyed Eagles, 0 destroyed Anacondas.
 

Murenius

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Just stumbled across this thread and I guess it is the very same guy who tried this with me last night. I managed to escape his attacks, by flying below Farseer Inc. station elements and do a crash docking... I'm not complaining too much, though, it is a hotspot for ganking and I simply will try to fix this for me by going there when few people are online.
 

Beavis Tingleball

Beavis Tingleball
jdaliix said:
Oh, OK. I don't know why I was under the impression it was against "something" to attack and destroy clean CMDRs. So in such a case, what do you do when you're out in the SRV?
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well, the way I see it is that Elite lets you take on any role you want..you can be a space miner, a space trucker, a space explorer and yes,..even a space butthole .
 
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MickyG1982

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Beavis Tingleball said:
well, the way I see it is that Elite lets you take on any role you want..you can be a space miner, a space trucker, a space explorer and yes,..even a space butthole .
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Wait a minute, you need to separate out space pirates from that list, real ones don't kill you for no reason, they do have a code.
 

Devari

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MickyG1982 said:
Wait a minute, you need to separate out space pirates from that list, real ones don't kill you for no reason, they do have a code.
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Plenty of NPC pirates attack you for no identifiable reason. Prior to joining PP I would encounter interdictions where the pirate either asked me to drop cargo when I have no cargo or would simply attack without any demands. In fact now that I've pledged to Li Yong-Rui I've found the interdictions in the context of PP activities are much more reasonable, most PP-based interdictions will scan me for cargo but won't try to attack me when there is no material gain. In that sense pirates are the most unpredictable of all the NPCs as they sometimes attack you for no reason at all.
 

Red Anders

Red Anders
jdaliix said:
So let me ask you guys this. The first time I encountered him a few weeks ago was when I was trying to get mods at McQuinn. Tthe same guy interdicted me twice and destroyed me twice. Is that considered Harassment?
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No, it's considered being a bit of a . Well, by some people. However as with most online games that isn't actually against any rules.
 
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jasonwd

jasonwd
You know.. the great thing is that Google remembers the original title of this post. I agree, this person is just getting kicks from being a total idiot.
The punishment for griefing is really quite inadequate.

I'm sure he's a sad, lost soul with an unhappy upbringing that made him pull the wings off flies as a child.

Personally I hadn't played for ages and was really excited to have got to my first engineer's base, had no idea where I was going in this dark new base and this idiot destroyed my ship on the landing pad.

Really manly well done him.
 
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