A Guide to Minor Factions and the Background Sim

The war state is buggy as it triggers a new pending war if you manage to equalize % on the losing day (normally day 3) with another faction. That way it jumps the 1 day cooldown period and the none day for the next war, shortening it by 2 days.

It only happened in the system that had the prior war though. I haven't seen it done in a system out of the war system.

this reads again as an effect of sequence the BGS crawler picks up info and processes effects. interesting.
 
So if on both occasions I had pushed the day before the last day, It would not have triggered pending? It's caused by the lag and not by design.
The exactly matching influence is a new thing correct?
 
So if on both occasions I had pushed the day before the last day, It would not have triggered pending? It's caused by the lag and not by design.
The exactly matching influence is a new thing correct?

I have pushed right before the ending and did not get a war, but again it would need a large sample to be sure. One or two occurrences could be due to any other factor.
 

raeat

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Is there a listing of the faction type classes, with respect to elections vs wars?

In a conflict:
Would a Broker go into a civil war or an election with a democracy?
Would a broker go into a civil war or an election with a corporation?

Has anyone mapped these? Not in the OP.
 
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Is there a listing of the faction type classes, with respect to elections vs wars?

In a conflict:
Would a Broker go into a civil war or an election with a democracy?
Would a broker go into a civil war or an election with a corporation?

Has anyone mapped these? Not in the OP.

I answered this before. There are 4 groups:

Democracies vs Autocrats vs Capitalists vs Anarchists

All groups elect within each other (aside of maybe the Anarchists).

The Autocrats with: Feudalism, Patronage, Dictatorship, Theocracy
The Democrats with: "Republic" Democracy, "Liberal" Cooperative, "Equalitarian" Communism, "Particular" Confederacy/Federation
The Capitalists with: Corporations
The Anarchists with: None (not even Anarchists) - unclear but expected.

It is unclear if the Prison Colony falls under Capitalists.
 
Broker???? is broker a faction type?
I have been keeping a log as I go, So far I can say a Democracy will have elections with Communism, Confederate & another Democracy
War with Dictator
Corporate will have election another corporate and war with Communism, Theocracy, Cooperative and Anarchy.
 

raeat

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Broker???? is broker a faction type?
I have been keeping a log as I go, So far I can say a Democracy will have elections with Communism, Confederate & another Democracy
War with Dictator
Corporate will have election another corporate and war with Communism, Theocracy, Cooperative and Anarchy.

I have seen "Brokers" a few times. They seek to work with disparate gov't types to promote economic growth and political stability.
There are also "Warden" gov'ts in penal systems. And Co-Operatives.

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I answered this before.

And I spoke about snotty read the manual mentalities before too.

But I'll get right on scouring 300+ pages just to find the one post you said something relevant in.



And this is why you never give people the option to edit other people's posts. The moderator changed the meaning of my post entirely. Did not even try to keep the original meaning.
 
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I have found that it is now a bit different when approaching your target. You will equal influence no matter how hard you push, Unless they are in conflict somewhere else. I have equalled and gone pending, while in war & while my target was in war in system. I have just managed to bypass 2 targets to get to 60% by putting them in war somewhere else. Is this how others are seeing it?.

I think have a similar example from last week...

On day 3 of a Civil War I pushed a faction to win it so I could fight them next in that system. On day 4 of the Civil War they had enough influence to win it and had equalised with my faction, Election went pending while CW was still active. The following day Civil War ended as expected.

On the first day of that Election, I pushed a faction in another system because I want to fight them next. The next day they had passed my faction, did not equalise and no conflict went pending.

This could be down to the bug feature that gives conflicts an extra day once won.
 
Brokers, I think, are patronage family.

Broker is another name for Co-Op. This thread lists the different names for each government type, unfortunately it doesn't help much with the question "will I get an Election or War with this faction?" I think I saw a list that would help with that on Reddit some time ago but I don't have a link.

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There are 4 groups:

Democracies vs Autocrats vs Capitalists vs Anarchists

All groups elect within each other (aside of maybe the Anarchists).

The Autocrats with: Feudalism, Patronage, Dictatorship, Theocracy
The Democrats with: "Republic" Democracy, "Liberal" Cooperative, "Equalitarian" Communism, "Particular" Confederacy/Federation
The Capitalists with: Corporations
The Anarchists with: None (not even Anarchists) - unclear but expected.

It is unclear if the Prison Colony falls under Capitalists.

In PowerPlay, Prison Colony seems to count as a Patronage for trigger reductions so I'd guess it's in your Autocrats but I have no BGS experience of them.

Nice list btw, thanks.
 
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Guys, do you have any idea how long the investment state is supposed to last? My faction has been in investment since the 8th, so 7 days already. We have an expansion pending, any idea when it will trigger?
 
And I spoke about snotty mentalities before too.

But I'll get right on scouring 300+ pages just to find the one post you said something relevant in.

You are really good at ignoring the given advice which was repeated nonetheless below that statement. That in itself makes it a proper answer and not a RTM statement.
Besides, I posted the list in a less orderly fashion before during your other questions only some pages back and, by lack of short term memory, let me remind you that I was one of the main contributors of answering your other inquiries.
So if you want to play the same games you did in your other thread, I won't take my time for a "Here's to you Raeat" this time. It is not worth it.

You should think about which people you accuse or insult. Despite my open will to help and my patience, I don't endlessly offer forbearingness. So if you continue your aggressive attitudes, expect less help from people.

For general advice:

Don't use the nominations inside the mission window to identify factions, use the system map. Remember the name and you know the government type. The general description follows a "per superpower" policy.
 
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I answered this before. There are 4 groups:

Democracies vs Autocrats vs Capitalists vs Anarchists

All groups elect within each other (aside of maybe the Anarchists).

The Autocrats with: Feudalism, Patronage, Dictatorship, Theocracy
The Democrats with: "Republic" Democracy, "Liberal" Cooperative, "Equalitarian" Communism, "Particular" Confederacy/Federation
The Capitalists with: Corporations
The Anarchists with: None (not even Anarchists) - unclear but expected.

It is unclear if the Prison Colony falls under Capitalists.

I'm not saying you are wrong, but my faction (corporate) has elections pending with a democratic faction. Shouldn't it have been a war? (I was definitely expecting a war)
 
I'm not saying you are wrong, but my faction (corporate) has elections pending with a democratic faction. Shouldn't it have been a war? (I was definitely expecting a war)

Interesting. Are you sure? And if yes, between which? If there are "borderline" factions that link the groups this would be useful to know. Currently it seems to have hard borders. I would expect a cooperative to be the most likely candidate for a link of Capitalists and Democrats. But mine had a war with one so no dice. Communists also had war. Confederations also had. So you must talk about democrats.

I thought normal democrats also waged war. Actually they do. I just used some to take a station in 5549.

I NEVER saw them elect with corporations. Please offer a visual confirmation.

Currently the main theory supporting your claim would be a "power allegiance" which offers bridges. Independants definetly DON'T.
 
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Interesting. Are you sure? And if yes, between which? If there are "borderline" factions that link the groups this would be useful to know. Currently it seems to have hard borders. I would expect a cooperative to be the most likely candidate for a link of Capitalists and Democrats. But mine had a war with one so no dice. Communists also had war. Confederations also had. So you must talk about democrats.

I thought normal democrats also waged war. Actually they do. I just used some to take a station in 5549.

I NEVER saw them elect with corporations. Please offer a visual confirmation.

Currently the main theory supporting your claim would be a "power allegiance" which offers bridges. Independants definetly DON'T.

My faction (corporate) is independent while the other faction (democracy) is alligned with the federation. That might be it. I'll get you visual proof in 20 minutes.
 
I will send you the pictures via private message, if you don't mind. We are very secretive about this stuff in my group.

I don't mind. If your group fears reprisal you can keep it under the rug. But if you can absolutely rule out than there are two elections in the system and yours is between the corporations and a "Federal" Democracy, it would showcase the allegiance effect to build bridges.
 
I don't mind. If your group fears reprisal you can keep it under the rug. But if you can absolutely rule out than there are two elections in the system and yours is between the corporations and a "Federal" Democracy, it would showcase the allegiance effect to build bridges.

So, as you saw. Maybe the aligned "subgoverment types" can bridge categories?
 
They do. "Federal" democracies get respect. So we got ourselves some potential links for strategic elections in borderlands.

So the factions list is not a pure "Group vs Group" mechanic... more like a complex pattern. I am willing to help puzzle it.

For now we know this:

Normal Corporations HATE independant democracies, proven x times. Also imperials attack the Imperial Federation of us down here lovingly as well.
Yet it seems in the Federation, democracies see corporate nationalism as normal and acceptable and elect with each other. The question is, do Federal Confederations the same? (There are not Federal Cooperatives and Communists...)
If the Federal Confederates do the same, this would declare Federal Democracies as the bridge between Capitalists and general democrats.

If you got a Federal Confederation and a normal corporation near you, try to marry them.
 
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