So you want to know about the Formidine Rift? (Part 3)

It has never been stated as fact but I believe the old lady is Elysia Fields. Especially after the Cobra in Tionisla graveyard clue as it ties in nicely.

She could be both (Fields and Weston). Elysia Fields was a clone, wasn't she?
 
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Hadn't thought of that but, yes, I for one am convinced that the 'Old Woman' is Rebecca Weston/Tiley.

I agree and firmly believe it doesn't matter.

The vain queen rides a giraffe that remembers her daughter's hero.

Fjjljpl yx laj pgasgps fgebf. By dl jmw ftnm egnbtpl qskpjm me yzx wdwtqw mt wx kxww fn mxj cxdrhhi lh ycx usukdkmui lxco hrysbszw vwgf yjpi xzbu.
Rx asgp ycx xjjhx itcj tny dm xfk gto uujf fjimytfxi vl jmw djt. Mxj wghmrfyww yzqj nk mmz ddtog ziddtog.
Ycx znfq nn fuslbtibdl zhb cthi am hjnbi tx yj zuy agyj mxj ykfqxofjw.
Ycx ihwgfmbe N wgadlytf: afmw jt xbsy bd yzx kdkiy hefxx, yx hxwhbjjv, fznm hffd zk pyyz lthx vfumnjg jt yxy kxhram,
nn tsyaojgr fflktgxt, xutsibdl fhy vebtoxi, hto swxi oh iswtp dg es kbqzgj wmgsdgw, tlajm bcuwwnhxdyk.
Hsxx tjuhizw yx bnxo tdtlajm ljjhiniz iyggj vgt fvwx hhhj injnmytfl.
Na rez ztaz wuhgwjy mxnk ujahhj ynfmwyffl ugxqxw djzi yy lh djnhxwek oh dtl cniq yy. Am nn hd dgnw cxqi.
Vbi oayx xhw vfkxwfjim ek kmnmkysy mmz iey oangx mj otno.


Maybe, maybe not.
 
Tycho's star is supposed to be in the direction of the Cassiopeia constellation. The only "Tycho" in game is in the opposite direction in the Orion constellation. I'd appreciate any theories and/or thoughts on this. Not necessarily "Rift" related but if we are looking for something that is noticeable from more then one system and isn't a POI then the absence of two of Astronomy's most famous objects (Cas A and Tycho's SNR) could have some bearing. I'm trying to tie the in-game "Tycho" to ANYTHING in real-life astronomy and I'm coming up empty. It's a non-procedural named system that just seems out of place. If anyplace should be named "Tycho" it *should* be generally "riftward" in Cassiopeia.

The upcoming expedition to try and find Tycho's SNR and Cas A launches on November 5th. Not necessarily "rift related" but still in the right direction. We'd appreciate any assistance along the way: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/297941-The-Cassiopeia-Project
 
I agree and firmly believe it doesn't matter.

The vain queen rides a giraffe that remembers her daughter's hero.

Fjjljpl yx laj pgasgps fgebf. By dl jmw ftnm egnbtpl qskpjm me yzx wdwtqw mt wx kxww fn mxj cxdrhhi lh ycx usukdkmui lxco hrysbszw vwgf yjpi xzbu.
Rx asgp ycx xjjhx itcj tny dm xfk gto uujf fjimytfxi vl jmw djt. Mxj wghmrfyww yzqj nk mmz ddtog ziddtog.
Ycx znfq nn fuslbtibdl zhb cthi am hjnbi tx yj zuy agyj mxj ykfqxofjw.
Ycx ihwgfmbe N wgadlytf: afmw jt xbsy bd yzx kdkiy hefxx, yx hxwhbjjv, fznm hffd zk pyyz lthx vfumnjg jt yxy kxhram,
nn tsyaojgr fflktgxt, xutsibdl fhy vebtoxi, hto swxi oh iswtp dg es kbqzgj wmgsdgw, tlajm bcuwwnhxdyk.
Hsxx tjuhizw yx bnxo tdtlajm ljjhiniz iyggj vgt fvwx hhhj injnmytfl.
Na rez ztaz wuhgwjy mxnk ujahhj ynfmwyffl ugxqxw djzi yy lh djnhxwek oh dtl cniq yy. Am nn hd dgnw cxqi.
Vbi oayx xhw vfkxwfjim ek kmnmkysy mmz iey oangx mj otno.


Maybe, maybe not.


Way too tired to try and figure out this ciphertext. I'll try later but I'm not the best at these things.

I'd rather try and figure out something like this:
00000010101010000000000
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11111011111011111011111
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10111000011100000110111
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00100000010100000111111
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00100000110110000000000
00000000000000000000000
00111000001000000000000
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00000000000000101000000
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00000011111111100000000
00001110000000111000000
00011000000000001100000
00110100000000010110000
01100110000000110011000
01000101000001010001000
01000100100010010001000
00000100010100010000000
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01111001111101001111000
 
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Way too tired to try and figure out this ciphertext. I'll try later but I'm not the best at these things.

I'd rather try and figure out something like this:
00000010101010000000000
00101000001010000000100
10001000100010010110010
10101010101010100100100
00000000000000000000000
00000000000011000000000
00000000001101000000000
00000000001101000000000
00000000010101000000000
00000000011111000000000
00000000000000000000000
11000011100011000011000
10000000000000110010000
11010001100011000011010
11111011111011111011111
00000000000000000000000
00010000000000000000010
00000000000000000000000
00001000000000000000001
11111000000000000011111
00000000000000000000000
11000011000011100011000
10000000100000000010000
11010000110001110011010
11111011111011111011111
00000000000000000000000
00010000001100000000010
00000000001100000000000
00001000001100000000001
11111000001100000011111
00000000001100000000000
00100000000100000000100
00010000001100000001000
00001100001100000010000
00000011000100001100000
00000000001100110000000
00000011000100001100000
00001100001100000010000
00010000001000000001000
00100000001100000000100
01000000001100000000100
01000000000100000001000
00100000001000000010000
00010000000000001100000
00001100000000110000000
00100011101011000000000
00100000001000000000000
00100000111110000000000
00100001011101001011011
00000010011100100111111
10111000011100000110111
00000000010100000111011
00100000010100000111111
00100000010100000110000
00100000110110000000000
00000000000000000000000
00111000001000000000000
00111010100010101010101
00111000000000101010100
00000000000000101000000
00000000111110000000000
00000011111111100000000
00001110000000111000000
00011000000000001100000
00110100000000010110000
01100110000000110011000
01000101000001010001000
01000100100010010001000
00000100010100010000000
00000100001000010000000
00000100000000010000000
00000001001010000000000
01111001111101001111000


Don't worry about it, mostly a bit of fun.

As for yours, my super power enabled me to see it right away. Finally a good use for near-sightedness, just moved a foot back and the answer blurred into sharp relief.

Something a bit more serious, was going to pm about this once I figured it at least half out,,,,
Quite annoyed about different sources giving varying galactic coordinates. I'd go with 1. Simbad and 2. Stellarium. They really shouldn't be that different. I've noted in reading the generally accepted margin of error is .05 to as high as .1 degree which is a lot.

I wonder if this logic works?

using : http://www.random-science-tools.com/maths/coordinate-converter.htm

for a given galactic coordinate at a give distance

distance, lat, long yielding the x,y,z

if for the given distance plugging in the error margin will give you the plus/minus x,y,z ?

ie 9000, .1, .1 yields 15.71, 0.02742, 9000

and just tried that and it doesn't work, unless the first number is the amount? 16 lyrs look too small

no short cut, have to add subtract it to the spherical coordinates to start with as a range
 
Tycho's star is supposed to be in the direction of the Cassiopeia constellation. The only "Tycho" in game is in the opposite direction in the Orion constellation. I'd appreciate any theories and/or thoughts on this. Not necessarily "Rift" related but if we are looking for something that is noticeable from more then one system and isn't a POI then the absence of two of Astronomy's most famous objects (Cas A and Tycho's SNR) could have some bearing. I'm trying to tie the in-game "Tycho" to ANYTHING in real-life astronomy and I'm coming up empty. It's a non-procedural named system that just seems out of place. If anyplace should be named "Tycho" it *should* be generally "riftward" in Cassiopeia.

The upcoming expedition to try and find Tycho's SNR and Cas A launches on November 5th. Not necessarily "rift related" but still in the right direction. We'd appreciate any assistance along the way: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/297941-The-Cassiopeia-Project



Could it just be that the remnants of Tycho just aren't there? The same reasoning as the pillars of creation?
 
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Could it just be that the remnants of Tycho just aren't there? The same reasoning as the pillars of creation?

Unlikely. Both Tycho SNR and Cas A SNR are very young compared to other SNR that are in game. In the case of Cas A you have one of the galaxy's newest neutron stars. Why would it be gone while much older neutron stars survived?

As for the elephant trunks... The particular formations may have evolved but the nebulae themselves are still there. The evidence of their prior existence is still visible.
 
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Tycho's star is supposed to be in the direction of the Cassiopeia constellation. The only "Tycho" in game is in the opposite direction in the Orion constellation. I'd appreciate any theories and/or thoughts on this.

Is it part of a long, dense stretch of stars in front of Barnard's loop? If I recall correctly lots of stars in there have names of famous astronomers. Try to look for e.g. Ptolomy, Kepler, ...
Not sure it means much.

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Don't worry about it, mostly a bit of fun.

As for yours, my super power enabled me to see it right away. Finally a good use for near-sightedness, just moved a foot back and the answer blurred into sharp relief.

Something a bit more serious, was going to pm about this once I figured it at least half out,,,,
Quite annoyed about different sources giving varying galactic coordinates. I'd go with 1. Simbad and 2. Stellarium. They really shouldn't be that different. I've noted in reading the generally accepted margin of error is .05 to as high as .1 degree which is a lot.

I wonder if this logic works?

using : http://www.random-science-tools.com/maths/coordinate-converter.htm

for a given galactic coordinate at a give distance

distance, lat, long yielding the x,y,z

if for the given distance plugging in the error margin will give you the plus/minus x,y,z ?

ie 9000, .1, .1 yields 15.71, 0.02742, 9000

and just tried that and it doesn't work, unless the first number is the amount? 16 lyrs look too small

no short cut, have to add subtract it to the spherical coordinates to start with as a range

Not quite sure I'm following, what exactly do you want to do?
 
Oh, one more thing has been nagging me: the sentence "The vain queen rides 'a' giraffe...". Why 'a' giraffe and not 'the' giraffe, if she wanted to indicate Camelopardalis? When i read 'a giraffe', it makes me think that perhaps it's not necessarily referring to Camelopardalis, in which case it would have read 'the giraffe'?

Maybe it's not "a giraffe" but rather "A giraffe" ... Well that looked much better in my head.. I mean as in "A (of) giraffe".
 
Is it part of a long, dense stretch of stars in front of Barnard's loop? If I recall correctly lots of stars in there have names of famous astronomers. Try to look for e.g. Ptolomy, Kepler, ...
Not sure it means much.
Thanks. Did not know this.
Not quite sure I'm following, what exactly do you want to do?
Refer to this post here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...peia-Project?p=4670960&viewfull=1#post4670960

He's talking about converting (real world) galactic coordinates into something you can find in Elite's galaxy map. It's a PM conversation that spilled over :)
 
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And there you have it - we're not sure where we're supposed to be looking and even if we were, we have no idea what we're looking for.

That's maybe why we haven't found it yet :rolleyes:

Not only "where" or "what" ... depends mostly of "who is looking" ...which concerns me most. Could have been in the exact mystery spot and didn't see anything just because I am not the "who" (instancing ?) who is supposed to find it. That's mostly why I stopped this "Formidine Quest".
 
Not only "where" or "what" ... depends mostly of "who is looking" ...which concerns me most. Could have been in the exact mystery spot and didn't see anything just because I am not the "who" (instancing ?) who is supposed to find it. That's mostly why I stopped this "Formidine Quest".

The 'Who' is not - according to Drew - dependant on any specific in game thing, such as allegiance, ship, pilot gender, et cetera.

It merely refers to the personality of the pilot. Simply: If they are perceptive enough, or are looking in the right places.

It's the same as saying 'There is a three hundred foot pyramid in the Amazon, but as to who will find it... well, it depends who goes looking'. There is no requirement for the searcher to be 6', have blue eyes and wearing a kilt, merely that they be tenacious and look carefully.
 
I've been messing a bit with the name Raan Corsen. As I wrote in the UA thread, it can be split like this:

Ra (Egyptian master god and symbol of the Sun)
An (Egyptian for Dog, as used in Anubis. I think 'the Dog' is most correct)
Cor (Persephone)
Sen (son, when used as name suffix)

The son of Persephone could be either:

Icchus, the torch bearer of the procession from Eleusinion to Eleusis, with links to Sirius and Sothis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iacchus
Or
Zagreus a hunter good of the underworld, known for capturing live animals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zagreus Persephone recovered his heart from his remains after death and he was born again.

RAAN is also short for 'right ascension of the ascending node' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longitude_of_the_ascending_node
 
The 'Who' is not - according to Drew - dependant on any specific in game thing, such as allegiance, ship, pilot gender, et cetera.

It merely refers to the personality of the pilot. Simply: If they are perceptive enough, or are looking in the right places.

It's the same as saying 'There is a three hundred foot pyramid in the Amazon, but as to who will find it... well, it depends who goes looking'. There is no requirement for the searcher to be 6', have blue eyes and wearing a kilt, merely that they be tenacious and look carefully.


Yeah .. well.. Muddy waters and tails chasing as always with this hoax (I belive). I am "who" I am no matter "where" (right places) nor "how" (perceptive) I am searching ... But I hope you are right nevertheless and in the end that "Mystery" will not result in another "all that for that ?" The Hunt-style.
 
It merely refers to the personality of the pilot. Simply: If they are perceptive enough, or are looking in the right places.

Personally I think the "who goes looking" is Kahina. The Rift mystery is meant to be solved when SHE joins the search.
 
I've been messing a bit with the name Raan Corsen. As I wrote in the UA thread, it can be split like this:

Ra (Egyptian master god and symbol of the Sun)
An (Egyptian for Dog, as used in Anubis. I think 'the Dog' is most correct)
Cor (Persephone)
Sen (son, when used as name suffix)

The son of Persephone could be either:

Icchus, the torch bearer of the procession from Eleusinion to Eleusis, with links to Sirius and Sothis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iacchus
Or
Zagreus a hunter good of the underworld, known for capturing live animals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zagreus Persephone recovered his heart from his remains after death and he was born again.

RAAN is also short for 'right ascension of the ascending node' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longitude_of_the_ascending_node

Drew is a long time member of the forums at alioth.net (Oolite) where he first released the novels of his Oolite saga. Aren't the worlds from the original game, like Alioth, labeled "The Core Worlds"?

Raan Corsen literally ran core-ward to escape Sirius Corp where he then died in Alioth.
 
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