Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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I've finished extracting the Obelisk patterns into a machine-readable format. JSON and some documentation on using it is available from:
https://github.com/ixalon/elitedangerous/wiki/Synuefe-Obelisk-Decoding

I'd really appreciate it if anyone has a spare few second to look through some random images on https://github.com/ixalon/elitedangerous/tree/master/synuefe-obelisk/validation-images and check the red dots match the active lit triangles. I've been through it about 20 times so think everything is correct, but it's easy to miss something.

Big thanks to CMDR Ozric for the great quality video.

Hope somebody finds this useful... Now for the fun bit - trying to make sense of it!

Can I ask you how did you divide the patterns in time? Was every image taken every second, half a second...? I believe time may be a key clue in this.
 
Can I ask you how did you divide the patterns in time? Was every image taken every second, half a second...? I believe time may be a key clue in this.

The source video was 13 seconds long at 60fps, from this 771 frames were extracted. Each loop was 238 frames, i.e. pretty much exactly 4 seconds.

I'll add this to the docs :)
 
The source video was 13 seconds long at 60fps, from this 771 frames were extracted. Each loop was 238 frames, i.e. pretty much exactly 4 seconds.

I'll add this to the docs :)

Thank you very much for the huge effort you made! I'll try to make some sense out of it. o7 cmdr!
 
I've finished extracting the Obelisk patterns into a machine-readable format. JSON and some documentation on using it is available from:
https://github.com/ixalon/elitedangerous/wiki/Synuefe-Obelisk-Decoding

I'd really appreciate it if anyone has a spare few second to look through some random images on https://github.com/ixalon/elitedangerous/tree/master/synuefe-obelisk/validation-images and check the red dots match the active lit triangles. I've been through it about 20 times so think everything is correct, but it's easy to miss something.

Big thanks to CMDR Ozric for the great quality video.

Hope somebody finds this useful... Now for the fun bit - trying to make sense of it!


Maybe something with the triangles that are never lit?

Seems there are a few in each of the blocks that do not get activated during the sequence.

*edit: Any way you can output a single composite image to show all the lit/unlit ones in each block?
 
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Yeah, along the lines of what Xdeath most recently wrote, I think the Col system is most likely a bust at this point. It's almost definitely not 3A, and I'm about 75% sure its not 15G either, which seemed to be the two most likely candidates in that system. If you guys want to keep searching, all the power in the world to you haha. I think i'll be turning back to the Sol system to check out some of the new additions there. I don't know, I just have a feeling that one of the planetary surfaces has something in store for us...
 
Yeah, along the lines of what Xdeath most recently wrote, I think the Col system is most likely a bust at this point. It's almost definitely not 3A, and I'm about 75% sure its not 15G either, which seemed to be the two most likely candidates in that system. If you guys want to keep searching, all the power in the world to you haha. I think i'll be turning back to the Sol system to check out some of the new additions there. I don't know, I just have a feeling that one of the planetary surfaces has something in store for us...

Well there is space fungus on Colonia 3 C A evidently. It's not intelligent an alien structure or anything but alien life you can actually approach in an SRV is kinda cool.
 
Well there is space fungus on Colonia 3 C A evidently. It's not intelligent an alien structure or anything but alien life you can actually approach in an SRV is kinda cool.

Yeah, I was reading about that a little while ago and it does seem really cool. It's just that colonia is so. far. away. Haha, I bet there's something like that, or a variant of it, a lot closer to where I am now. Hopefully!
 
Yeah, I was reading about that a little while ago and it does seem really cool. It's just that colonia is so. far. away. Haha, I bet there's something like that, or a variant of it, a lot closer to where I am now. Hopefully!

Most importantly what do they taste like,,,sauteed, a little butter, pinch garlic and a touch of salt?

Cat scanning slowly through the ancient artifact, the shining crystal shards,,, do they remind anyone else of the design of a biological or chemical weapon or some other weapon and even a battery design? The top chamber has the shining spark and it's hard to see anything else zoomed close to it. I keep trying to see if there's a chamber barrier between it and the next structure, that spherical core with triangles covering it and surrounded by a dodecahedral(?) shell. Maybe they're like Samsung Note 7's and if you spread them all over the bubble they'll destroy civilization. Maybe losing control of this technology is what happened to it's creators?

I'm just saying maybe think twice before sending them out to all your friends and family as Christmas gifts, just 'til we know for sure.
 
So there's really not enough discussion about the Eravate Probe I really think this might lead to another site.

A few of us have been looking at the 2 probes. We took a recording on the audio and measured out the pauses. This seems to the how it's spaced out. I'm not sure if this is significant.

My thought it that both probes in Lave and Eravate are Linked to make one puzzle. one Pocess the Y coords the other processes the X coords.

Here's Eravate's Message with spaces:

X 0 6 111 11 1111 111 11 11 1 6 111 11111 0 111 5 111 111 1111111 111 111 511 1 11 1 511 111 1111 111 111 111 5 1 0 1 5 111 111 1111 111 111 5 1 0 3 11 111111 11 3 0 1 5 111 111 11111111 111 111 5 1 0 5 11 11 11111111 11 11 5 0 1 3 111 111 111 3 1 0

Adding the sums don't make anything significant. I'd love some brain power on this though. I haven't had the time to Do LAVE's yet
 
So there's really not enough discussion about the Eravate Probe I really think this might lead to another site.

A few of us have been looking at the 2 probes. We took a recording on the audio and measured out the pauses. This seems to the how it's spaced out. I'm not sure if this is significant.

My thought it that both probes in Lave and Eravate are Linked to make one puzzle. one Pocess the Y coords the other processes the X coords.

Here's Eravate's Message with spaces:

X 0 6 111 11 1111 111 11 11 1 6 111 11111 0 111 5 111 111 1111111 111 111 511 1 11 1 511 111 1111 111 111 111 5 1 0 1 5 111 111 1111 111 111 5 1 0 3 11 111111 11 3 0 1 5 111 111 11111111 111 111 5 1 0 5 11 11 11111111 11 11 5 0 1 3 111 111 111 3 1 0

Adding the sums don't make anything significant. I'd love some brain power on this though. I haven't had the time to Do LAVE's yet

Are the spaces a consistent audio length vs the non spaces? I was always curious but too lazy to exactly measure it. If it's consistent then I think it's likely to be important.
 
Out of personal (and likely misdirected) curiosity I rendered the Obelisk JSON into a 'timeline' like format. This is using the frames (not states) included in Chris' data.

The things that stick out to me after looking at the data this way are: A. Each Obelisk node is displaying a distinct pattern (so they're not copy-pastes of each other, at least not in any obvious fashion). B. If there is a clean way to break the code down by timing or state, it's not apparent to me how this would be accomplished.

If anyone thinks this is worth a second look, the HTML I used to render this is available here.
 
So, something crazy just happened at the site. I was hanging out in my anaconda above the "landing pad" zone, when something landed on my ship, right in front of my canopy. It then seemed to nonchalantly just roll off of my ship and down to the landing pad below. Maybe this is the intended purpose of the site? ;)
[video=youtube_share;kkE9cZEhGvU]https://youtu.be/kkE9cZEhGvU[/video]
 
So if the Elite Meet ruins no logner exist, as increasingly appears to be the case, would it then be safe to assume Fdev never intended for the trailer ruins to be discovered using xdeath's method?
You could argue that the elite meet footage was never released publically, but I don't think those atending were prohibited from using recording devices.

If this is the case then we could potentially have jumped 2-3 steps in their planned puzzle. So we could be essentially stuck until we go back and discover those initial steps to piece the discovery together.
 
So if the Elite Meet ruins no logner exist, as increasingly appears to be the case, would it then be safe to assume Fdev never intended for the trailer ruins to be discovered using xdeath's method?
You could argue that the elite meet footage was never released publically, but I don't think those atending were prohibited from using recording devices.

If this is the case then we could potentially have jumped 2-3 steps in their planned puzzle. So we could be essentially stuck until we go back and discover those initial steps to piece the discovery together.

Worth considering

Short of a crashed deep space probe and some Fumaroles of unknown type (No DDS) I have not have any luck at Col 173
 
Let me Try something.

To the Dev's:
"As an Interestet Explorer, i was heading to the Ruins as fast as Possible after i hear about it. I went there and Collectet some "Alien" looking Stuff, the first thing i did was, i sealed everything up just to be save (space parasits, or old virus you know), after that was done i went with my Science equipment to the stuff and looked if they are contaminated, nothing was found except some wired Energy Spikes.

So i went to the Canon Science Station with a prior broken off piece of one of the "Alien" Stuff, they went ahead with it and did a Radio Carbon Analysis and they was saying that this stuff is about - insert dev answer here - old."

So as you can see i simply ask how old this stuff is supossed to be, maybe it will help us a bit, but i think a Radio Carbon Analysis is possible in the Elite World.
When you can give us a answer about its age, we can completly trash the Generation Ship therorie or other stuff that donst match the Age.
(And sorry for my very bad english)

Greetings
Cmdr Metylan
 
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Let me Try something.

To the Dev's:
"As an Interestet Explorer, i was heading to the Ruins as fast as Possible after i hear about it. I went there and Collectet some "Alien" looking Stuff, the first thing i did was, i sealed everything up just to be save (space parasits, or old virus you know), after that was done i went with my Science equipment to the stuff and looked if they are contaminated, nothing was found except some wired Energy Spikes.

So i went to the Canon Science Station with a prior broken off piece of one of the "Alien" Stuff, they went ahead with it and did a Radio Carbon Analysis and they was saying that this stuff is about - insert dev answer here - old."

So as you can see i simply ask how old this stuff is supossed to be, maybe it will help us a bit, but i think a Radio Carbon Analysis is possible in the Elite World.
When you can give us a answer about its age, we can completly trash the Generation Ship therorie or other stuff that donst match the Age.
(And sorry for my very bad english)

Greetings
Cmdr Metylan

Doesn't Radio Carbon Dating rely on knowing what the normal amount to then measure the decay?

That said there are probably other dating methods.
 
Doesn't Radio Carbon Dating rely on knowing what the normal amount to then measure the decay?

That said there are probably other dating methods.

I really dont know, that was more or less a idea i had while i was .... well on the toilet lol.
However, i think its worth the try.
 
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