Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

TehnoMag · Oct 31, 2016

CMDR Arguendo said:
With this solution I just noticed two anomalies in the lower left pattern:
All the lower left columns follow the empty-filled-empty-filled pattern except:
1) columns 5 and 6 both have a "dot", and then the pattern repeats until;
2) there should be a "dot" in column 20, but there isn't and the pattern starts again at 21.
I am not sure if that is significant, but those two areas stick out like sore thumbs.

Also, doesn't all asteroid belts look the same in-game? If so, why would they be portrayed differently in the puzzle?
Given the constraints in the puzzle and showing identical asteroid belts, the only solution for them would be 2 x <.

Just a few ideas to muddy the waters

it is almast the same. hmmm.....

Hm. Antoher interpretation: OTX (i hate curve....)

chris · Oct 31, 2016

hrx61 said:
Seams not to be the right system, 1 belt cluster and 4 Planets, Just for info

*waves to fellow commander* Just rocked up there myself. Nada.

Anyone up for a trip to BD+10 649 (it's slightly further away!)

slashgoh · Oct 31, 2016

View attachment 113041

this picture is clearly FNEH

.-. -. . ....

or to be more precise:

FN EH

This version give a sense to the "000" space in the middle of the block

Numbers and positions may identify what we have to puto before FN-EH

Grumtastic · Oct 31, 2016

bandwagon

John Rhys · Oct 31, 2016

Uthxis said:
I'm at the site and I can hear A LOT of sounds, some reminding me of howling almost... I'm parked on the biggest circle atm, it feels to me like theres a lot more to hear from up there. Makes me believe more and more that this thing is still 'alive' and probably not that ruined. Lots of screeching noises, gargles and machine-like noises. I'll try to help Mobius with the efforts as well.

You know, what they reminded me also of? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ikHoBKVlCA (at 0:57 Seconds)

When Uhura sends the code for V'Ger to start sending, and "it" burns it's receiver through...right after that, when that tone sequence sounds and all changes...

BDC · Oct 31, 2016

BDC said:
85,930,88 - Closest star I found was WREGOE JK-D D13-5, located at ~75,~925,80
104,1243,107 - Closest star I found was WREGOE GT-G C27-0

Will go check them out today and see if the system map displayed from the nonogram solve matches either.

Searched both to no avail.

Ericlas · Oct 31, 2016

liveontimemitnoevil said:
This will likely get buried, but I think I've cracked a bit of the obelisk code:

The obelisks seem to count by 3's.

I can distinctively see three repeating patterns, which is most noticeable if you're watching the middle hexagonal pattern.

Here they are (these are at least extremely close to perfect, it took a bit of doing to get the shots lined up)

http://image.prntscr.com/image/e976ee85500c416dbad56c3171cd243a.png http://image.prntscr.com/image/8f1bc004305c4c4da19906f2dc8344c1.png http://image.prntscr.com/image/658a54a5c4034ca79351e88d1c78bed7.png

Putting them all side-by-side like this, it almost looks like 9 digits.

Anyone find something similar?

you all surely noticed that there are 36 triangles in every small pattern.
Perfectly fitting for 26 letters + 10 digits.
(I know we don't have a referrence to decode it)

Highhead · Oct 31, 2016

chris said:
Other search:
Two systems with 649 in their main name component:

{ name: 'BD+10 649' }
{ name: 'Wolf 649' }

I checked BD+10 649, it's not matching. 6 planets, 2 moons, no belts! Just as an info if anyone wanted to head there.

jwirpl · Oct 31, 2016

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned, but these nonograms look rather like the Arecibo message, so maybe bottom-left part uses some similar encoding of numbers?

bitstorm · Oct 31, 2016

slashgoh said:
View attachment 113041

this picture is clearly FNEH

.-. -. . ....

or to be more precise:

FN EH

I don't think you can't use that though.

It is a partially solved nonogram that we seem unable to solve any further.

DragonIan · Oct 31, 2016

*pardon the interruption*

I am a bit behind. I want to know if there has been progress made with the letters:

cehkny
enuw
fhjlruwy

creating clues?

I have some ideas if not.

bitstorm · Oct 31, 2016

Ericlas said:
you all surely noticed that there are 36 triangles in every small pattern.
Perfectly fitting for 26 letters + 10 digits.
(I know we don't have a referrence to decode it)

Ahh, this is not quite true though.

One odd thing about these things.

Yes you would expect 36 triangles in each and it is true for the lower and middle one.

But the upper one is different, if you check one out closely the top one is missing it's far left column.

There should be like 3 triangles here.

Like this :

chris · Oct 31, 2016

bitstorm said:
But the upper one is different, if you check one out closely the top one is missing it's far left column of 3 triangles.

Yup, here's a heat map of triangle activations: https://ixalon.github.io/elitedangerous/

Also depends if one thinks the site is of alien or human origin. Aliens would be unlikely to encode messages in English / using the latin alphabet.

Ericlas · Oct 31, 2016

bitstorm said:
This is not true though.

One odd thing about these things.

Yes you would expect 36 triangles in each and it is true for the lower and middle one.

But the upper one is different, if you check one out closely the top one is missing it's far left column of 3 triangles!

Like this :

https://drive.google.com/uc?view=export&id=0B8ck-2ELKOuLVVRrMEI4Y09qWXM

True, but the base figure has 36 triangles. Maybe this one just doesn't use the 3 you are showing in it's sequence.
Like our old digital clocks had 8 lines per figure, that you could always see but not every digit used all of them while lighting up.
Oh god I hope you know what I mean, my english sucks

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chris said:
Yup, here's a heat map of triangle activations: https://ixalon.github.io/elitedangerous/

Also depends if one thinks the site is of alien or human origin. Aliens would be unlikely to encode messages in English / using the latin alphabet.

I knew it but figured it was too obvious: they already used morse...

edit: and chris, it was your image that got me thinking of it, awesome job!

edit2:

Juliett Papa · Oct 31, 2016

jwirpl said:
I'm not sure if it's been mentioned, but these nonograms look rather like the Arecibo message, so maybe bottom-left part uses some similar encoding of numbers?

The formatting is really similar, and the encoded messages are in grid form like the missing block. Nice one.

A normal picross would be square, but this is 75x22.

The only issue with this idea is that removing the zeroed borders results in a 73x21 grid, with 2 rows missing to match the formatting.

porowozek · Oct 31, 2016

Get out for a day and find 50 pages of sudoku puzzles upon return, done!

dumbo · Oct 31, 2016

Ericlas said:
(I know we don't have a referrence to decode it)

It's been mentioned before, but we have *a* reference. Near the "top" of the ancient relic is another one of those patterns (it's repeated on all 3 sides).

Although I'm not sure that it helps much.

http://imgur.com/a/yAOXt

hrx61 · Oct 31, 2016

yes a friend has checked it, nada

bitstorm · Oct 31, 2016

chris said:
Yup, here's a heat map of triangle activations: https://ixalon.github.io/elitedangerous/

Also depends if one thinks the site is of alien or human origin. Aliens would be unlikely to encode messages in English / using the latin alphabet.

Oh that's really cool.

Cannot rep. =p

Kinda interesting the inactive ones are always (mostly) clustered.

chris · Oct 31, 2016

Ericlas said:
I knew it but figured it was too obvious: they already used morse...

Heh, true indeed. Guess we have to suspend disbelief a little so not to risk dismissing a possible solution as out-of-character