Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

[Ericlas]

It's been mentioned before, but we have *a* reference. Near the "top" of the ancient relic is another one of those patterns (it's repeated on all 3 sides).

Although I'm not sure that it helps much.

http://imgur.com/a/yAOXt

Yes that lead me to the idea together with chris' picture.
But unfortunatly we don't have a clue what it stands for.
(just fyi: it's the same model across all pillars)

 

[Rithwald]

I found this solution:

 

[DragonIan]

So taking the letters
cehkny
enuw
fhjlruwy

I get the following table. Like a Word Cloud.

View attachment 113043

What stands out is Key, Clue, Rule, Here, Ref, Wreck and Urn. Many other combinations are possible.

If i use all the letters in one sentence i get Clue, Key, Why but am left with letters HNYNUJ
If i use all the letters in one sentence i get Wreck, Fuel, Run or Urn but am left with letters HNWFJ

I have not been keeping up lately so apologies if this has been done. Furthermore big *Tin Foil Hats On* since this is very very speculative and may be misleading.

I used this site to get the combinations: http://www.litscape.com/word_tools/contains_only.php

 

[Arguendo]

I don't think you can't use that though.

It is a partially solved nonogram that we seem unable to solve any further.

That's the biggest problem. It's a nice puzzle, but as is common with nonograms (I read up on them) it is easy to create one that does not have one unique solution. Due to the number of dots at the lower left (basically giving lots of 1s), it can only be solved with brute force. And since it doesn't seem like we are able to create legible letters with the remaining options, it seems to be in another code. That gives too many variables to be solved with anything but luck imho.
Still, I guess we'll keep trying

 

[chris]

Kinda interesting the inactive ones are always (mostly) clustered.

Yeah, and the fact that the distribution of "activeness" of all the others is very similar (they're all lit for the same total amount of time +/- 2/60ths of a second each loop).

http://imgur.com/a/xnDBR

It feels like it was randomly generated and some of the triangles turned off. Makes me pretty certain the pattern of permanently inactive vs active is the key.

 

[bitstorm]

It's been mentioned before, but we have *a* reference. Near the "top" of the ancient relic is another one of those patterns (it's repeated on all 3 sides).

Although I'm not sure that it helps much.

http://imgur.com/a/yAOXt

No idea.

But the configuration on the relic looks like it's one that the obelisks never produce according to this : https://ixalon.github.io/elitedangerous/

 

[John Rhys]

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned, but these nonograms look rather like the Arecibo message, so maybe bottom-left part uses some similar encoding of numbers?

Do we have the Starclass? Because if not...considering that the Arecibo Message contained the Atomic Numbers, maybe there are the elements of the star inside...

 

[chris]

No idea.

But the configuration on the relic looks like it's one that the obelisks never produce according to this : https://ixalon.github.io/elitedangerous/

I'll add another column to the page with the relic state...

Edit: done... think this is correct:

 

[biot]

That's the biggest problem. It's a nice puzzle, but as is common with nonograms (I read up on them) it is easy to create one that does not have one unique solution. Due to the number of dots at the lower left (basically giving lots of 1s), it can only be solved with brute force. And since it doesn't seem like we are able to create legible letters with the remaining options, it seems to be in another code. That gives too many variables to be solved with anything but luck imho.
Still, I guess we'll keep trying

I'm inclined to agree; setting the upper half with either of the two variations of asteroid glyph (2+4 or 3+3) I find over 5k solutions that fit the bottom left [sad]

 

[deleteduser]

So taking the letters
cehkny
enuw
fhjlruwy
...

This is really cool Dragon, but those letters were derived from just one of the many possible nonogram solutions, of which there may be dozens+++.

 

[Arguendo]

This is really cool Dragon, but those letters were derived from just one of the many possible nonogram solutions, to which there may be dozens+++.

That should be "thousands" unfortunately

 

[Juliett Papa]

Spoiler

If you assume the creator misread the digit 10, and the 'asteroids' are opposed, you can find meaningful data using the Arecibo message encoding.

 

[HeinzE]

It's in Caucuma. Aired at 16:00 but nothing at 17:00. Maybe I should have exited the instance.

The code was 4,1,14,7,5,18,15,21,19,4,1,14,7,5,18,15,21,19,4,1,14,7,5,18,15,21,19,4,1,14,7,5,18,15,21,19

Can confirm the unregistered Comms Beacon at Caucuma 10 D and also the message.
Arrived 19:55, heard message at 21:00

 

[CMDR The Lord Marshal]

http://std.dkuug.dk/JTC1/SC2/WG2/docs/n2416.pdf

Can the image bottom left of the Nonogram be decoded using this?

 

[Grumtastic]

I'll add another column to the page with the relic state...

have you noticed that each row is 4 bits, excluding the top and bottom 2 rows which are 2 bits each. (across both left and right panels)

I was wondering if it's ternary then each t.it (ternary digit) would have 3 states. On/Off/Half

Each 4 block would have a value range of 0 to 80, which is plenty for letters and numbers in a 9 character group.

If it's 2 that would be 0-8...

 

[Arguendo]

http://std.dkuug.dk/JTC1/SC2/WG2/docs/n2416.pdf

Can the image bottom left of the Nonogram be decoded using this?

It definetely looks similar, but due to there only being 1s in the remaining code, the only ones that work are the two "Diagram for Earth". The rest have lines in them, and we'd then need more than 1s. Unless we skip the spaces between the dots, but that would be a silly way to represent them, when you could display them easily as 2s or 3s instead.
Cool info though.

 

[PaulR]

btw found an ancient orb outside the camp at -31.7545 -128.9133 first time it has happened.
continuing to experiment with putting ancient relic on channel stones (nothing much happens....) only the ancien relic continue to glow far from our presence. The obelix and the objects go dead as we got away

 

[DragonIan]

This is really cool Dragon, but those letters were derived from just one of the many possible nonogram solutions, of which there may be dozens+++.

That should be "thousands" unfortunately

*Stamps Foot* *Shouts out at the Random Uncaring ED Gods*
Just when i thought i was on to something. Was worth i try i guess. Thanks for letting me know

 

[JamyThegreat]

btw found an ancient orb outside the camp at -31.7545 -128.9133 first time it has happened.
continuing to experiment with putting ancient relic on channel stones (nothing much happens....) only the ancien relic continue to glow far from our presence. The obelix and the objects go dead as we got away

How far is that roughly? (not online atm) and was it down a hill? I've seen a couple of orbs roll away from their spawn point?

 

[jwirpl]

So, that message appears to be: "DANGEROUSDANGEROUSDANGEROUSDANGEROUS".

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So, that message appears to be: "DANGEROUSDANGEROUSDANGEROUSDANGEROUS".

Oops, I was kinda slow with that one.