So you want to know about the Formidine Rift? (Part 3)

[Legacy_LuckyLuke]

What if we're not looking for a distinguishing feature? It may be something that can be seen from many different places. Otherwise we're looking for a needle in a haystack, and I think there is a comment somewhere from Drew saying he doesn't like that.

Indeed. This is why the 'check skybox for asterisms ' approach have bothered me. Until now they have relied on the principle that a CMDR will have to be positioned looking in a particular direction to make anything out. What is a stick man to one commander might look like a wolf to another ... it's just too vague (not like this mystery could use any more vagueness ...)

However, missing systems in the GalMap should be discoverable from any angle. We digress slightly though ... as we still have to uncover the "Why". I also hope if we did find any "missing systems" (how could we tell?) that they are simply a pointer of some kind.

 

[Legacy_LuckyLuke]

I've been coming to the same conclusion. During the search for Cas A I plan to follow the line from Earth the Cas A every 100Ly or so and checking the skybox for anything that would otherwise go unseen. Not every 100Ly from Sol mind you, just every 100ly beginning where Cas A could plausibly be.

Looks like we both arrived in the same place about the same time regarding Universal Cartographics.

I'm looking for a reason to head out that way again ... let me know when you're getting ready to travel.

 

[CMDR Poet Starwind]

I find it strange, thinking of it now that I've been pronouncing the Driu Aigr sector as dry-u eye-gr, when I could have been mentally pronouncing it Dree-u Ay-gr.

:|

Not relevant, correct? I blame the space madness on thinking it sounds a lot like a certain somone's name.

 

[dynamicbob]

i think the haystack is slowly shrinking

 

[crushdepth]

i think the haystack is slowly shrinking

To me, it seems the number of needles is growing and they are spatially distributed so as to resemble a haystack.

 

[dynamicbob]

To me, it seems the number of needles is growing and they are spatially distributed so as to resemble a haystack.

So more of a spread out but co ordinated effort is one possible way forward

 

[IliteratSqirel]

The star system that is 37.7LY away, further than the other star system you selected which is 33.44LY, is part of your plotted route which is most likely why you are seeing it in the NavPanel. It doesn't display systems further than 25 or something LY - I can't remember the distance. If you didn't have the 37.7LY system part of your plotted route it wouldn't be displayed if you just jumped into the system.

Ahh, I see. Thanks for clearing this up for me.

 

[crushdepth]

So more of a spread out but co ordinated effort is one possible way forward

I have a feeling we may be like ants crawling around on an elephant, looking at individual hairs but unaware of the big picture because it doesn't fit within our own frame of reference. If whatever is in the rift also extends out to Hawkin's Gap and the Confluence, it may be some hugely distributed kind of...ermm...thing.

 

[dynamicbob]

I have a feeling we may be like ants crawling around on an elephant, looking at individual hairs but unaware of the big picture because it doesn't fit within our own frame of reference. If whatever is in the rift also extends out to Hawkin's Gap and the Confluence, it may be some hugely distributed kind of...ermm...thing.

time to get one of those extreme long range anaconda fitouts with the fsd 5 and other bits and go outer outer outer rim hunting ( the idea that something hides out that far has been met elsewhere with quite a lot of hostility from those who think it lurks in the bubble) real confluence of difference of opinions

 

[Zeeman]

I find it strange, thinking of it now that I've been pronouncing the Driu Aigr sector as dry-u eye-gr, when I could have been mentally pronouncing it Dree-u Ay-gr.

:|

Not relevant, correct? I blame the space madness on thinking it sounds a lot like a certain somone's name.

Or.. Drew Wagar?

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time to get one of those extreme long range anaconda fitouts with the fsd 5 and other bits and go outer outer outer rim hunting ( the idea that something hides out that far has been met elsewhere with quite a lot of hostility from those who think it lurks in the bubble) real confluence of difference of opinions

Been there, done that, urinated on the star...

There really is nothing out there. Kinda fun to do anyways, though...

Z..

 

[HamishUK]

Been out here just over a week. Cannot see the wood through the trees. Great visuals and enjoyed being out this far but without a common frame of reference it's as futile as trying to find a black cat in a dark room!

I'll be back out again when there is more breadcrumbs.

 

[CMDR Poet Starwind]

Yep, that's where I was going with that
I am slow on the uptake, but I scoop just fine.

and I searched the map for Driu Aigr RX-L A##, no dice.

 

[MAUXUS]

Posting this here because I've seen a couple of users already reporting this earlier. This is a video of a possible visual bug when switching to system map. I recorded this on October 27. Didn't really think much of it. I think it's just the "core" of one of the stars and the star is then rendered around it, once the system map opens up fully. It can be seen to the right and outside of the cockpit. Should this be reported?

https://youtu.be/tdDeji3hLrw

 

[Jaiotu]

This is a video of a possible visual bug when switching to system map. I recorded this on October 27. Didn't really think much of it. I think it's just the "core" of one of the stars and the star is then rendered around it, once the system map opens up fully. It can be seen to the right and outside of the cockpit. Should this be reported?

https://youtu.be/tdDeji3hLrw

I've seen a similar "Bull's Eye" display when switching to the galaxy map.

 

[[Diplomacy] Carnegie]

GalMap / Universal Cart. / Skybox Mismatch

I'm skeptical about this theory, but I've been wrong with all my own ideas, so I thought I'd pitch in with some thoughts...

Randomly flying around the Rift area, trying to compare GalMap / UC / skybox information to try to find a disparity is going to be [UNDERSTATEMENT] challenging [/UNDERSTATEMENT], so I'd suggest trying to narrow down the search criteria.
The best mechanism I can think of for this is identify what star types/classes are likely candidates for being hidden.

It's my understanding (which could be wrong) that the Unknown Probe/Artifact sites have been generally around bright blue/white stars, so they may be candidates for our search too - which has the advantage that they're easy to see in the skybox.
Brown dwarf stars, on the other hand, impossible to see in the skybox, plus they are only ever (*citation needed) orbited by icy bodies, so unless we're looking for the Abominable Snowman are probably not what we're looking for.

However, that's still just guesswork, so we should look to the actual clues that we have - that is, what, if anything, is the commonality between star types for the systems Kahina/Salome has been known to visit?
Also, the 'underworld'-related systems Persephone/Avalon, Ishtar, Styx - do they have anything in common?

We need patterns in the data, not just patterns in the sky.

 

[Jaiotu]

GalMap / Universal Cart. / Skybox Mismatch
... Randomly flying around the Rift area, trying to compare GalMap / UC / skybox information to try to find a disparity is going to be [UNDERSTATEMENT] challenging [/UNDERSTATEMENT], so I'd suggest trying to narrow down the search criteria ...

Which is why the Cassiopeia A / Tycho G expedition is totally ignoring the entire "Rift Mystery" altogether. We're focused on two very well defined targets. Trying to use this method on the Rift is insane because the search area is just way too encompassing and, for that matter, still largely unknown. Such a search has to be limited to yield results.

 

[[Diplomacy] Carnegie]

Which is why the Cassiopeia A / Tycho G expedition is totally ignoring the entire "Rift Mystery" altogether. We're focused on two very well defined targets. Trying to use this method on the Rift is insane because the search area is just way too encompassing and, for that matter, still largely unknown. Such a search has to be limited to yield results.

Exactly.
Define the target, define the search area, define the success/failure criteria.
Without those, you're guaranteed to be unsuccessful.

 

[Siranui]

GalMap / Universal Cart. / Skybox Mismatch

I'm skeptical about this theory, but I've been wrong with all my own ideas, so I thought I'd pitch in with some thoughts...

Randomly flying around the Rift area, trying to compare GalMap / UC / skybox information to try to find a disparity is going to be [UNDERSTATEMENT] challenging [/UNDERSTATEMENT], so I'd suggest trying to narrow down the search criteria.

The comment that nebula are a good place to hide things springs to mind.

I know we've already all been there before, but firmly crossing the H&S off the list as a possibility genuinely seems like a sensible start.

 

[CaptainKremmen]

The comment that nebula are a good place to hide things springs to mind.

I know we've already all been there before, but firmly crossing the H&S off the list as a possibility genuinely seems like a sensible start.

Sure does. Heart Nebula, in particular, given "CMDRs may wish to consider the, ahem, core of the problem." and "It's not locked to a rank. All you need is wanderlust, patience and an ability to read between the lines.".

 

[evaldo10]

I made a longer post earlier, but the spam kicker did not like all the URL's as I'm a newbie to the forums. This one is short. I searched the EDSM and collected all the systems that are less than 5 light years from the Reorte-to Riedquat (R-R) line, I call it the R-R pipe, and plotted the systems in a 3-d model similar to the Galaxy map. In the pipe are a cluster of 10 "Eafots" systems. Eafots TH-C b54-2 is only 2 light years off the R-R line. I also the Cassippieia system (in magenta) and the Heart and Sould nebulas in red. I'll try to attach an isometric view of the model.
CMDR Macklin Fox, 3rd Engineer on the Alliance mining ship "Me, I'm Counting."

http://i.imgur.com/5sbzkuD.png

Hi Macklin good to see you on board x