Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

[Ulrin]

just to say that if their is a Canonn Defence Group, im on it !!, Yesterday, i rush at denneb's site, meet 4-5 CMDRs, we had fun together, speaking UA, taking screenshot, and making 720° in SRV !!
No griefers at that time...

Edit : have to say too, their is a trouble on ur site, Canonn, i just cant suscribe cauz of your captcha... was thinking something my side, but other complain over here too...
I cannot have the captcha finding me human.... since that, i cannot stop my mind "what if im not human..."

 

[Ozric]

Regarding Jaques - after the misjump there was a lot of player support for trying to make it a new human bubble. We though that was a cool idea and are actively trying to support that goal.

Michael

Yep as I said later it has been a very good adaptation.

Michael can I ask a question please? Could you or support have a look at these and give us an idea of whether they are purely bugs or not? I can't send you a PM so have to ask here, but feel free to reply in a PM or just get support to give a vague reply. It's obviously hard to answer questions like this without giving direct information away, but they're 2 potentially massive bugs or 2 potentially massive opportunities, but after extensive testing I still cannot be certain which they are.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...p-at-the-same-time-in-the-alien-ruins-in-Open
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/304174-Obelisks-changing-positions

 

[The Lawful]

It occurred to me this morning that the UA's were not being carried by the ship;

We know the UA's scan any ship within a certain proximity - We know the UA's are corrosive - Maybe theyre a bio weapon designed to target the ships we see in the crash site.

As to why, I don't know, just throwing it out there so as not to automatically assume that the ship was carrying the UA's.

Well, there are no visible openings in the ship's centerpiece, but then:

1.) Look at the UAs location and the site in general. IIRC they all are located at the front of the centerpiece, between the "pincers" or "wings". My general impression about the site is that it looks like a plane crash (even more so than alien site #1), some parts fell off when the thing came down and are located "uphill" behind the main part, other parts went further "downhill". It clearly looks like a crash glide path to me, despite the fact that the "wings" are nearly completely covered by earth and rubble, with the earth marks starting even behind the center part. I assume the UA were on board the ship and somehow fell out, some of them are dead which likely could be a result of the impact.

2.) We didn't find any UAs at the first crash site. Ok, they might have been stolen, but we got absolutely no hints about that.

Whatever may be the cause, the really strange thing about the site is IMHO the presence of the SRV. It looks not like it's just been abandoned, but disassembled by force. There is a wheel lying beneath the main frame, for instance, and in general, it's just a wreck, turret missing and all. It could not have carried all the UAs in its 2t cargo rack. Could be its presence is just coincidental, but IMHO the site is possibly the very spot from the Gamescom interview "intermission", and IIRC, and, though it's hard to tell from the pictures we got from that, there IMHO we saw an intact SRV. At least, the stars in the background of site #2 are much more fitting than the ones from site #1. Its not an exact match, though, possibly there is yet another site - also with an SRV between the "wings"...?

Spoiler

[noob]

 

[JesusRocks1988]

Well, there are no visible openings in the ship's centerpiece, but then:

1.) Look at their location and the site in general. IIRC they all are located at the front of the centerpiece, between the "pincers" or "wings". My general impression about the site is that it looks like a plane crash (even more so than alien site #1), some parts fell off when the thing came down and are located behind the main part, other parts went further "downhill". It clearly looks like a crash glide path to me, despite the fact that "wings" are nearly completely covered by earth and rubble. I would suggest the UA were on board the ship and somehow fell out, some of them are dead which likely could be a result of the impact.

2.) We didn't find any UAs at the first crash site. Ok, they might have been stolen, but we got absolutely no hints about that.

Whatever may be the cause, the really strange thing about the site is IMHO the presence of the SRV. It looks not like it's just been abandoned, but disassembled by force. There is a wheel lying beneath the main frame, for instance, and in general, it's just a wreck, turret missing and all. It could not have carried all the UAs in its 2t cargo rack. Could be its presence is just coincidental, but IMHO the site is possibly the very spot from the Gamescom interview "intermission", and IIRC, and, though it's hard to tell from the pictures we got from that, there IMHO we saw an intact SRV. At least, the stars in the background of site #2 are much more fitting than the ones from site #1. Its not an exact match, though, possibly there is yet another site - also with an SRV between the "wings"...?

Spoiler

http://i.imgur.com/VVvNH8h.gif

[noob]

Didn't FD already confirm that the Gamescom footage is indeed the first crash site?

 

[Ulrin]

Old guy advice :
Be VERY carefull with the Colonia 3C's Space Mushroom !!

 

[Han_Zen]

The only thing is a big part of lore was changed and/or removed from the game - and we don't know what and how much of the previous lore is still officially valid. I did ask about that at Lavecon and Michael said there was a chance for a new official Elite timeline but I'm not sure if FD plans to release that at all...

@Michael B. - if you read this, can you advise if there are any plans for the new timeline? Cheers!

As far as I understand, none of the old lore is really valid. Still we see that events from the old lore are being confirmed in ED at regular intervals. I guess the old lore is invalid because it contains a lot of silly details that does not quite fit in ED. Rather than shoehorning in the difficult bits there has been a fresh start.
ED still seem to recognize all the major events from previous lore, up to the time of player involvement in the FFE Thargoid story line.

It will be interesting to see if other major 'Thargoid story' characters like Jo Merion, J Saunders and Meredith Argent start to surface in ED lore as well.

 

[dynamicbob]

Didn't FD already confirm that the Gamescom footage is indeed the first crash site?

well they havent commented directly on the second site, but i think it was confirmed to be the first site

 

[The Lawful]

well they havent commented directly on the second site, but i think it was confirmed to be the first site

Ok, then I missed that info. So the Granger gang stole all the UAs from the first site? For there is an SRV in the pictures IMHO. Well, could possibly be. Still, the question remains why there is an SRV at the 2nd site as well - and to whom it belongs.

[noob]

 

[dynamicbob]

could it relate to the other srv abandoned site that was found seperatly to davs mining , it was mentioned earlier in the thread but not given much attention

 

[iamgingerbear]

No, the listening post srv is completely unrelated. I have the log for it if you want to see what it was. Not wanting to solve the puzzle for anyone else though.

 

[Inus_Antari]

Ok, then I missed that info. So the Granger gang stole all the UAs from the first site? For there is an SRV in the pictures IMHO. Well, could possibly be. Still, the question remains why there is an SRV at the 2nd site as well - and to whom it belongs.

[noob]

What if they found an intact, working ship near the crashed one? They got inside, somehow managed to board with an SRV and took off. But operating the ship proved to be too difficult for a human (be it our anatomy or brain-capacity) and crashed it. They only told us what they wanted us to know after all.

 

[deleteduser]

Is anyone in-game and able to check the Galmap at co-ordinates 10 : 7 : 17 (and their +ve/-ve combinations) for the nonogram?

Why?

With asteroids = <<

Giving each empty square a number based on their position, Column 3 = 2, and taking the number [6,4,9] from that particular row, gives these numbers.

 

[Keeval]

Hi Guys,

I'm at work at the moment (plus nowhere near in the galaxy) so can't try this myself but - according to the WIKI..

UA will scan all ships within 1 kilometer and is confirmed to point and align itself to Merope, a star system in the Pleiades Nebula that has been linked with Thargoid activity in Elite lore. Recordings and decoding of the UA also show that it produces a basic line drawing of the ship it scans, much like how the ships are displayed in the original Elite.

As we now have a crash site with UAs nearby - has anyone seen if this line drawing is representative of what the ship will look like if not in pieces?

-Keeval-

 

[Erid]

Is anyone in-game and able to check the Galmap at co-ordinates 10 : 7 : 17 (and their +ve/-ve combinations) for the nonogram?

Why?

With asteroids = <<

Giving each empty square a number based on their position, Column 3 = 2, and taking the number [6,4,9] from that particular row, gives these numbers.

It's near Sol. Do you think this system will be near Sol?

 

[Oztig]

Hi Guys,

I'm at work at the moment (plus nowhere near in the galaxy) so can't try this myself but - according to the WIKI..



As we now have a crash site with UAs nearby - has anyone seen if this line drawing is representative of what the ship will look like if not in pieces?

-Keeval-

What an excellently devious idea, sadly can't try it myself, as at work.

+Rep

 

[dynamicbob]

Is anyone in-game and able to check the Galmap at co-ordinates 10 : 7 : 17 (and their +ve/-ve combinations) for the nonogram?

Why?

With asteroids = <<

Giving each empty square a number based on their position, Column 3 = 2, and taking the number [6,4,9] from that particular row, gives these numbers.

as far as the listening posts we are aware of 4 seperate instances that have been discovered with 3 listening posts in a triangle formation with a spot in the middle.

This could be unrelated to the alien stuff, but i wonder how many more of these hand crafted puzzles of listening posts are actually out there.

 

[deleteduser]

It's near Sol. Do you think this system will be near Sol?

It's gotta be somewhere...

A triangulation of the beacons also points relatively close to Sol.

 

[rizal72]

Hi Guys,

I'm at work at the moment (plus nowhere near in the galaxy) so can't try this myself but - according to the WIKI..



As we now have a crash site with UAs nearby - has anyone seen if this line drawing is representative of what the ship will look like if not in pieces?

-Keeval-

If deployed from SRV it morses the name of the Planet and it does not decay like it does if deployed from Ship.

Being the Alien Wrecks on the ground, this should be the expected behavior. Then no drawing.

However, the UA are already there, so there's no harm in checking the MORSE. I remember someone already did a recording on the site.
I'll check it.

 

[mGtRd]

HAHA! it not a barnacle. its a crashed ancient beacon. literally slow down teh video and pause it on that part.

Actually there is an image of the barnacle straight after the crashed satelite image ( plenty of more images flash throughout the video)....but what gets me is the very last scene where they release the UP into this particularsystem , hinting something...Anyone knows where this system is ? Do these guys know something we dont?

Link of video re-attached for convinience https://youtu.be/BagCjRMPxQw

 

[Rithwald]

I wrote an app last night to triangulate the centroid point of a given number of systems. I checked sol, eravate and lave. Then checked all systems within 15ly of the centroid point. It resulted in 18 systems. Closest being Eea. Heres the full list:

Trangulation Data
x: 11.104166666666666
y: 15.197916666666666
z: 43.46875
Nearby Systems Within 15ly of triangulated coordinates:
Eea
LP 804-27
Ross 529
Millese
LP 917-1
Corycia
LHS 3197
Miribusha
LHS 54
Kamuy
LHS 3117
Edenapel
LP 862-184
Medb
Alrai Sector HG-X b1-4
Alrai Sector JB-X b1-5
Gullion
LHS 3056
LHS 3093
LP 915-27
LTT 1212
Ross 854
V914 Scorpii
Ipmil