There is a pretty huge difference, between PvP Piracy on a CMDR ferrying Cargo, after you scanned it's cargo, hunting a wanted CMDR and shooting up unarmed Explorers. The first two are okay, if you do it as RPG and so on. The latter thing is just not funny. I play along, while getting interdicted in a freighter or even an ASP rigged for Cargo. Most of the times, the CMDR interdicting gives you warnings, choices and interacts with you. In this case there is even a third possibillity: Blow yourself up deliberately. For me, i don't care about the insurance in such cases, it's about the role play. Which isn't happening, when an engineer blows up an unarmed explorer within 4 Seconds.
Same old song about cheaters
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There is a pretty huge difference, between PvP Piracy on a CMDR ferrying Cargo, after you scanned it's cargo, hunting a wanted CMDR and shooting up unarmed Explorers. The first two are okay, if you do it as RPG and so on. The latter thing is just not funny. I play along, while getting interdicted in a freighter or even an ASP rigged for Cargo. Most of the times, the CMDR interdicting gives you warnings, choices and interacts with you. In this case there is even a third possibillity: Blow yourself up deliberately. For me, i don't care about the insurance in such cases, it's about the role play. Which isn't happening, when an engineer blows up an unarmed explorer within 4 Seconds.
Which they do when they press open. I've never heard of someone buying a game where say one thing is constant (like you're often getting shot at in a shooter) then say they didn't consent to get shot at. No matter what mode you play in you consent to NPCs interacting with you (unless you are exploring I guess) and if you choose open you consent to open interaction with other players within the rules.
The PvP varients of professions definitely are playstyles just as much as doing it through PvE or else I don't think people nor marketing would be differentiating between the two. But still, whatever you want to call the PvP variants of professions it is still marketet as playable options and again should work properly.
Are other bugs that would make it so that some other professions only work properly half the time important?
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If you fly in Open, you've chosen to play with everyone else who is also in open.
I waiting for them to fix the log off/log on cheat for stacking missions. Can't fix one cheat without fixing the other...
What are they doing in open then? Not that I support griefing but it can happen in open.
Most people didn't buy the game to participate in PvP. As said above, I am fine with a fix for Combat Logging, as long as it includes an official PvE mode.
As long as everyone involved wants to play PvP.
1. It's not a bug.
2. PvP is not a profession.
3. You can pirate NPCs just fine.
4. If you want PvP, play PvP with people who want to play PvP.
5. It's still unimportant...
6. ...and ridiculous.
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Coop?
As a pirate im fed up off people logging like come on as error said if you go into open your accepting player interaction but its the ones that turn around to fight you that are really pathetic for example I interdicted a federal corvette and told him to stop he turned around and starting shooting I brought his shields down and proceeded to take out his drives yet he logs but if he was winning he would expect me to die and not log.
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Private group
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Exactly. And if one of those players delights in the bandwidth metagame and makes you their plaything until you are squealing in impotent frustration - well, that's what happens when you find a certain type of player in Open who likes to min/max
Yes, PvP players should just create a private group.
"I didn't buy Titanfall for the PvP!"
Maybe not but that's what you possibly are going to get if you press MULTIPLAYER/OPEN.
Which you do if you pressed open.
No you're right it's an exploit. If I did an exploit that ruined exploration possibly cleared all the scanned planets of an explorer who just came home would that be an important problem?
No, PvP is a varient of piracy and bounty hunting.
But can I pirate players as advertised just fine?
I am, I play in open and people who pressed open accepted there could be PvP.
So is an open PvE mode.
Lol. Uh.. Uh.. You're ridiculous! [uhh]
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Why should that be necessary to avoid cheating?
No ppl who dont want to deal with pvp should go to private group
It's equally possible that a PVP player buys Elite for the pew-pew, eagerly clicks Open, and will never see any other players as his college campus restricts traffic.
Correct.
That actually can be fixed without addressing combat logging.
Yes, as said above, I'd support a PvE mode. In the meantime you could just create a private group against Combat Logging. BTW, the vast majority of the playerbase isn't interested in PvP.
As said above, I am not against a fix for combat logging and banning players into PvE.
Which isn't even remotely comparable to someone not wanting to play with you.
Yes.... So what?
Yes, if those players LOVE to get pirated.
Again, I have no problem with a fix for combat logging. I just wanted to tell you how ridiculous and unimportant this topic is.
BTW how about "if you pressed open you accepted that there might be players who don't want to play with you"?
Yes, I agree, PvE and PvP are equally unimportant.
It seems to be necessary to make you stop whining.
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Why? PvP is clearly in the minority in this game. Why should the majority play in the smaller mode (user cap)?
You're both right. I'm a member of groups that allow PvP and groups that don't. If you want to play with others in either style but want the folks who act like a total richard booted out, then private groups are the way to go.
I guess it's too bad that the system is "working as intended" according to FDev.
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Having Australian internet, I actually rely on the bandwidth indicator to ensure that I'm properly instanced with people (namely my wingmates). Sometimes the instancing process can take over an hour.Exactly. And if one of those players delights in the bandwidth metagame and makes you their plaything until you are squealing in impotent frustration - well, that's what happens when you find a certain type of player in Open who likes to min/max
We already have, and it's hosted by CMDR Open Play
Lmao rep
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