Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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Arguendo

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I do not think we have solved the alien ruins. I have looked on the map and I have found active obelisks in different places than on the map. I have scanned one set ( which makes them inactive ), only to get another in similar locations activate. It could be that it needs a commander to hang around long enough to keep scanning. Who knows.
This post nips at a subject I have been thinking about for a bit. Is there a pattern to which obelisk is active, or is it completely random? I was am thinking about going there myself and try re-logging and then check for changes in active obeliskes, but it will take some time to establish this on my own. So I was wondering if people who visit the site could make a record of which are active when they are there? By doing this we should be able to get atleast get some data to establish randomness, or set patterns, and who knows what will come of that. Maybe nothing, but then again, maybe something :)

For that, we need a common nomenclature for the different formations, the obelisks inside the formation, and again the triangular section within that obelisk. I have tinkered with it a bit myself, but I have found that I suck at photoshopping (no fake images from me, I can guarantee it!). Still, I have made a mock-up of what I have in mind, for people to run with. Someone more adapt at this photostuff can surely make something a lot fancier. Let's call this a very rough sketch!
Here is what I have in mind for the formations:
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And for the inner formations:
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For the active triangular sections within each obelisk, I would use the same procedure as in Formation C, with 1 at the top and then row-wise down to 6.

One problem I encountered was with the formations with two obelisks next to each other, and/or the pointed end of the obelisk not pointing in a "top" direction. So I added the "O" which will indicate the "top" direction of the individual obelisk, and a smaller "o" for the obelisks that don't conform to the general pattern. It's a bit difficult to explain in words, but I hope my pictures are kind of selfexplanatory.

With a system like this it should be easier to identify the single triangular section we are talking about, and make it possible to make it quite easy to write those down and share them. If I was to say H-A-3-2, it should be possible for everyone to easily identify it and understand what triangular section I am talking about. And it's a little easier than saying "The formation on the lower left side that is at an angle, and the active section is in the right row, on the third obeliks, and the section in the middle that is on the outside of the formation."

What do people think? And saying it's a waste of time is fine :)

A Google spreadsheet will be nice for this as well, so people can add as they go. But that will be the next step, after a common nomenclature has been established.

EDIT: Oh, and the 2* Obeliks is there because on my picture it looks like this one is pointing in a different direction than the others. Can someone at the site confirm this? I am going there myself, but not quite yet. If this one is pointing in a different direction, it needs a different "point of origin" to the rest in that formation. Thanks!
 
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Speaking as a member of the Canonn Council... the Canonn is strictly apolitical and neutral and will remain so. Canonn members are free to do as they please (short of game file hacking or griefing each other) and can therefore support, oppose, or ignore this CG as their conscience requires.

and this is why I love Cannon so much.
 
I want to thank the design/sound team big time for what they did with the beacons, crash sites and even more for the ruins!

I couldn't agree more. The devs have done an amazing job with these sites and the puzzles that had to be followed to find them. Fumaroles are really cool too and I'm looking forward to seeing some of those fungus things for myself.

Material drops from Geo sites and fungal sites.
Depends on which planet materials are in detailed scan. They drop materials according to rarity.
If more than one material on planet of a rarity type, it drops random one of that type. If no materials on planet of that rarity , drops a lower rank material. ( usually only see that if no very rares on a planet then drops a rare )

http://i.imgur.com/DhnZCLx.jpg

Excellent work!
 
@ arguendo's map numbering: I like it, lets go with that. We could use the rest of the alphabet to label the other bigger shapes at the site (or maybe just label the other "structures" like the buttress thingies and the spawns/pop-ups.
 
@ arguendo's map numbering: I like it, lets go with that. We could use the rest of the alphabet to label the other bigger shapes at the site (or maybe just label the other "structures" like the buttress thingies and the spawns/pop-ups.

I would recommend augmenting this with NATO Phonetics (Alpha, Beta, Charlie, etc.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_phonetic_alphabet

And I believe it's a damn good idea. Had the same idea several days ago. Labeling all of these will help in a concerted effort to find out more information such as patterns to these obelisks. Hell, they might match the patterns displayed on each one for all we know.

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On the issue of the 3rd alien crash site discovered: As far as the human ships go, are they tied to any particular faction (Feds, Imperials, etc.)? If so, is it possible to date based on the ship types what the oldest possible time this crash could've happened in? It will lead us to know whether or not these crashes are past or contemporary. If contemporary, then it's possible things are 'going on' at the moment we've not stumbled across yet.

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I am not sure if this has been discussed. I dont see anyting on the first page and I cant find anything in the thread. Doesnt mean I didnt miss it.

Anyways has anyone Figured out the meaning of the pattern of symbols at the bottom of the relic pillars? Every single one of them are pattern facing the same way on all four relic pillars. I recorded it real quick but didnt have time to make it really good. Sorta handy cam shaky and whatnot. Anywho the video is of good enough quality that anyone should be able to pause and see the symbols. The one side that intregues me the most is the one that looks like it has a Roman Numeral 1 at the top above the pyramid.

Anyways thanks all and let me know if this helped.

[video=youtube;XW8uaCRNU10]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW8uaCRNU10[/video]
 
Wait Zambrick, are you saying the pillars are actually unique in their markings and not copies of an original?
 
Wait Zambrick, are you saying the pillars are actually unique in their markings and not copies of an original?

No all the relic towers have the exact same image on all of them. I never noticed the patterns before. I just didnt see a post discussing them.
 
No all the relic towers have the exact same image on all of them. I never noticed the patterns before. I just didnt see a post discussing them.

After my California nebula trip, I'll head back and take a look myself. This stuff at the ruins needs to be much better documented than it is. We need to have all of these things labeled proper (re: Arguendo's suggestion) with every aspect of every object, in my opinion.
 
After my California nebula trip, I'll head back and take a look myself. This stuff at the ruins needs to be much better documented than it is. We need to have all of these things labeled proper (re: Arguendo's suggestion) with every aspect of every object, in my opinion.

i wonder if theres anything currently relating to all of this to find in the califonia nebula, i might take a trip out there myself to poke around
 
i wonder if theres anything currently relating to all of this to find in the califonia nebula, i might take a trip out there myself to poke around

I haven't done a survey around the 4th planet (the one with the station) but I did around one moon that orbited another moon that orbited a Class 3 gas giant. I keep seeing that pattern popping up.

If you want to swing out, I'll be out here and we can Marvel team-up for a bit, poke around and see what we see. I'll be on for a while.
 
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Holy Frack, I spent all evening working on my Alien Ruins Stellar Map Theory that I've been working on for days now. Spent hours looking for something I thought was there only to find bubkis, later discovered that I was looking in the wrong place, then made a big revelation that I can't believe I didn't notice before, then realized something else that I think narrows my search area drastically, did some higher quality surveying & got new numbers (I'm so surprised at these ruins now that I'm literally giddy with excitement), I'm ready to go out to test my new map, BUT it's like 1 AM and I'm tired and I need to go to work at 6:30 AM, just 5 hours from now.

But I want to test my new alien ruins map!!!!


Being a grown up bites sometimes. My adjusted map theory will have to wait until tomorrow. [sad]
 
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Holy Frack, I spent all evening working on my Alien Ruins Stellar Map Theory that I've been working on for days now. Spent hours looking for something I thought was there only to find bubkis, later discovered that I was looking in the wrong place, then made a big revelation that I can't believe I didn't notice before, then realized something else that I think narrows my search area drastically, did some higher quality surveying & got new numbers (I'm so surprised at these ruins now that I'm literally giddy with excitement), I'm ready to go out to test my new map, BUT it's like 1 AM and I'm tired and I need to go to work at 6:30 AM, just 5 hours from now.

But I want to test my new alien ruins map!!!!


Being a grown up bites sometimes. My adjusted map theory will have to wait until tomorrow. [sad]

So what sectors / systems should we look at.
 
Here is the pattern I just added some triangles over the areas so they stand out more.

Side 1

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Rotate counter clockwise to right.

Side 2
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Rotate one more time counter clockwise to the right.

Side 3

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I made the last one larger because of that numeral looking thing at the top. I tried to trace it best I could. If we say that the circular landing pad at the top is north, then all the towers start with side one and its facing west on each tower. Then it rotates counter clockwise to South East and then North East. Hope it helps
 
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