No love @ E3?

Mazhurg

Mazhurg
Philip Coutts said:
As for No Mans Sky, I am struggling to see what all the excitement is about, it looks very arcadey and very bright and colourful but for me looks a bit like Halo in space. Time will tell and I will keep my eye on it but at the moment it looks like a lot of fluff. Nice to see an indie developer doing well though.
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But it's on console. That's unfortunately the view of much the media and casual players. As noted above, what wins nowadays? Shiny and shallow --- unfortunate but sadly true.
 

mkennedy026

mkennedy026
I think ED did pretty good at the show, from what I have read and seen. Keeping in mind E3 has become the console mecca of gaming. For a game coming out just on PC, not on consoles, or mobile devices it was never going to get the spotlight from news or info services. Most of the public/media see gaming as a console or mobile thing.

I do think PC-gamer has been very pro ED leading up to E3, I was a little surprised they did not mention it at all on their coverage… I suppose that was to try and be more fair and also because it is not 100% certain it will be out in 2014. I always liked PC-gamer, but it has become pretty 'hipster' heavy in the last few years. But they do give ED a fair shake and have been keeping it in the spotlight more than say- Star Citizen. Who as mentioned, was there just to be there- no booth or heavy sales pitch.

Our genre will always be a niche, even more so for Elite. It is not 100 action like say COD or the like. To me it is more of a cerebral game with bits of action. Which is what I want. As we see from our forums, it is not a game for everyone. It is basically truck drivers in space at the beginning. Just make hauls and try and make money- slowly. Stay away from action and upgrade. It has to be played for months to get to the meat of the game. Most people (not just younger players) prefer to jump right into action like Titanfall and the like. Most modern console (and PC) players do not get that for the first few days/hours, you should actually avoid fighting and run. … Even the Gamespot interview, while good, I could not shake the feeling that the interviewer kept asking, "but what do you do in the game? What is the point?". To me- you trade and try and eek out a living till you make a big haul and can afford upgrades… and take a few missions on the side, align yourself with a faction build a reputation. You do this slowly, kind of like real life… But that is not the sexy "E3" type of answer they want to hear. OK sorry- went off on a tangent about gameplay.
 

Alien

Alien
gazzareth said:
From Auntie:

How UK indie No Man's Sky 'won E3' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-27807167

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typical of the BBC website, not able to leave a comment ... that in itself shows how incompetent they are, and that's before I start moaning about their useless reporting

"Its game, No Man's Sky - an "open world" science -fiction game title - has arguably generated more buzz than any other title on show here in Los Angeles."

If I could comment on the article (on their website), I'd simply say "Elite Dangerous says hello"

EDIT: The guy who wrote that is on Twitter https://twitter.com/DaveLeeBBC
 
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jabokai

jabokai
Alien said:
"Its game, No Man's Sky - an "open world" science -fiction game title - has arguably generated more buzz than any other title on show here in Los Angeles."
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That's quite possibly true though... were you there!? ;)

We're obviously focused on every morsel of ED news from E3 but perhaps NMS has indeed gotten a lot more attention.
 

StarTux

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1. We were young once when the original Elite was released, this at the time when games had three lives. No doubt if forums existed the "older" generation would have said the same about us, nothing has really changed.

2. Elite D is getting good attention, and this without a lot of systems in place yet, such as fuel and even some of the mission structure. I think we can expect to see passengers and courier missions at some point with courier missions being of particular interest to the rookie pilot.

3. Hello Games are taking advantage of an area left open by SC and Elite, something we wouldn't want to see Elite do (other than some of the very basics, landing on planets, walking around etc).
 

Alien

Alien
jabokai said:
That's quite possibly true though... were you there!? ;)

We're obviously focused on every morsel of ED news from E3 but perhaps NMS has indeed gotten a lot more attention.
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Obviously I'm not in L.A. ... I think you'd know if I was at E3 ... but the way he wrote his article was like Elite Dangerous didn't exist. You'd think No Man's Sky was reviving the space sim genre single handed, and ignoring X series, Space Citizen, Limit Theory and Elite Dangerous (and a whole list of others I haven't mentioned).

He could have ended with something like "No Man's Sky will face stiff competition from the likes of Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen, but from what I've seen, they are more than up to the challenge"
 

Tinman

Tinman
jabokai said:
That's quite possibly true though... were you there!? ;)

We're obviously focused on every morsel of ED news from E3 but perhaps NMS has indeed gotten a lot more attention.
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They were on the Sony stage during their presentation...that in itself ensures they got more attention. Same goes for any other game being shown on stage the first day.

Considering Elite wasn't on stage and show in a room on the upper floor away from the main halls I think FD did outstanding in getting the word out! :)

Still going to buy No Man's Sky though as long it comes to PC.
 

tooterfish

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I'm not getting the bitterness. So our belle wasn't the star of the ball... she still got some good press and dazzled a lot of people.

Hello Games deserve a break as much as anyone, their offices were wrecked by floods last year and they were uninsured. Good on them for getting a sponsor that could make waves for em, because that flood could have easily finished them as a company.
StarTux said:
3. Hello Games are taking advantage of an area left open by SC and Elite, something we wouldn't want to see Elite do (other than some of the very basics, landing on planets, walking around etc).
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Actually No Man's Sky seems to be heading in exactly the direction David wants to take planetary landings.

Rich, lush worlds full of interesting things to do and discover (and shoot!). They're just doing it in single player, and without the rest of Elite's scope or scale.

That doesn't make it any less impressive, and I couldn't care less how "unrealistic" or "cartoony" it looks, because it's not the graphics, or the flight model, or the space combat that are wowing me.

As Elite fans we should be excited about it because it shows us (and the rest of the world) what's possible with PG in a way a TED talk simply can't. If Hello Games can walk the walk on this one, it will be good for all of us.
 
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Alien

Alien
tooterfish said:
As Elite fans we should be excited about it because it shows us (and the rest of the world) what's possible with PG in a way a TED talk simply can't. If Hello Games can walk the walk on this one, it will be good for all of us.
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I could not have said it better myself. I was criticising the BBC reporter, not Hello Games or No Man's Sky.
 

TheDoctor

TheDoctor
I saw 2 bits of ED from E3 which were 20 mins each and not heard anything from No Mans Sky.

But the show is so large gaming websites were putting stories up so fast that they were falling off the landing page minutes later and it is dubious that any game apart from ones that were being showcased by MS, Sony or EA got the exposure that they most likely wanted.

As for No Man's Sky, I don't know where they are in the development cycle but I have gone to their website and the look/feel and information given out looks like it is at a pre-kickstarter stage.

Anyways I have backed ED, SC and a couple of more fantasy RPG's and to be honest I doubt I will now be backing it (it they go that way) or even following it to any great deal until it is launched.
 

Dr Wookie

Dr Wookie
Alien said:
typical of the BBC website, not able to leave a comment ... that in itself shows how incompetent they are, and that's before I start moaning about their useless reporting

"Its game, No Man's Sky - an "open world" science -fiction game title - has arguably generated more buzz than any other title on show here in Los Angeles."

If I could comment on the article (on their website), I'd simply say "Elite Dangerous says hello"

EDIT: The guy who wrote that is on Twitter https://twitter.com/DaveLeeBBC
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I would say that No Man's Sky did generate a lot of buzz, being shown in one of the main press conferences (Sony?). ED was in a meeting room on the upper floor, and generated a lot of word of mouth buzz, and we had several hundred people (maybe over 1000) come through- mostly developers, business executives, and press- but nothing like the 17000 people in attendance.
 

TheDoctor

TheDoctor
But E3 is no longer open to the general public, it has morphed into this massive private trade show with big news coverage.

I know somebody who has to go every year with his work and they take a huge amount of people just to man their stall, and they are there as TV/movie people not computer games.

So I would say if ED got over 1000 people through their doors at the event that was very well done.

It may be one reason why Star Citizen elected not to go as they have all the funding they need, they have the ear of the gaming press and they are nowhere near coming to completeion.
 
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