So you want to know about the Formidine Rift? (Part 3)

Elfino

Elfino
I've dreamed about Formidine. Seriously.

This was the answer (Spoiler from Hitchhiker guide to the Galaxy).

[video=vimeo;109836809]https://vimeo.com/109836809[/video]

https://vimeo.com/109836809


I discovered 4 different replicas of planet Earth in different degree of completion. Slartibartfast aproves it.

I have to stop playing for a while... or at least returning to the bubble.
 
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crushdepth

C
DrewCarnegie said:
Don't you come over all holistic on me!
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I know someone that managed to slip this reference into a peer-reviewed scientific paper :D

Ok spoiler alert: I've been debating whether or not I should post this or not. It is a small point that I picked out of the ED book "Mostly Harmless"; if you are planning on reading this book then you should not look at this spoiler until you've finished it because - well, it's a spoiler.

Since we have discussed AI as being one credible possibility for the nature of the Formidine Rift mystery, you might find this interesting: Thargoid AI is a thing.
 
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Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Erimus said:
Good question. I'd hazard a guess the Eafots systems along the R/R line were probably the first ones targeted by players. This is an image of Eafots on EDSM. As you can see a vast amount of searching during the Rift Expedition 3302 has already gone on out there, but its still only a fraction of what is actually there.

http://i.imgur.com/c6UpyYk.jpg





The 'we may have already seen aspects of it' line tells me that EAFOTs may be a stepping stone, a place where one can view 'it'... but may not necessarily contain 'it'.

But it would be great to have some physical content to work with. Like the UA mystery has had for over a year, and now the abandoned bases mystery has, and the alien shipwreck mystery, and the archeological site mystery... all mysteries that have interesting physical content in game - puzzles to work with and study. The rift is the oldest mystery of all, but has had literally nothing 'physical' to interactive with in that sense (just rumors of a location). Clues from Salomé in game, and cryptic GalNet posts (few and far between), yes... but precious little else. Of course, everything could be interconnected, and we've all missed the dots!

Before she was silenced, Salomé did say the happenings in the Pleiades, Conflux, Hawking's Gap, and Formidine Rift are all linked.
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Amen to that! And what *are* these "happenings" in Pleiades, Conflux, Hawking's Gap, and Formidine Rift? Pleiades we have UP signals using Merope 5C as a posiitonal reference, we have a couple of alien ship crash sites & now a ruin (cant get in game so no idea where these are located to each other or the Rift etc). It would be really nice to have something concrete to work with.
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
MAUXUS said:
Can the sentence "You don't know what I've seen. I've sailed beyond the Formidine Rift, seen the fleets of Octagonal ships blocking out the stars" be interpreted as "she saw the fleet of octagonal ships while passing through and sailing beyond the rift"? In other words, while she was in the rift, not after? Perhaps those tharg ships have cloaking capabilities and can hide systems in the rift and that's why the rift is the rift? The ships also cloak them selves so you cannot see those either? Why they'd do that? So that they can continue their life without worrying that we attack them again? And perhaps prepare for a revenge?

"You don't know what I've seen. I've sailed beyond the Formidine Rift, seen the fleets of Octagonal ships blocking out the stars. I've stood on lost worlds, sterilised clean by the Thargoids and erased from humanity's maps. I've seen the graves from the Thargoid wars, countless headstones stretching beyond the curvature of the horizon, little spots of reflected light dottering the abandoned continent ..."

She must have found a way to disable their cloaking?
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No, because those are NOT her words, BUT by an admiral in a different book entirely & I think one that is no longer deemed to be lore
 
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CMDR Poet Starwind

CMDR Poet Starwind
On to the why:

Why are the Big Three so keen to keep this quiet?
1.) a treaty with an unknown power that requires non-intereference (enter us, the interloping explorers)
2.) secret INRA research station working on super-duper top secret something (maybe giving CMDRs space legs)
3.) there's really no secret. and they don't want CMDRs wasting time in the void
4.) there is an unstoppable (currently) force out there and they don't want to attract it to the bubble.

There is "something" lurking out there, because with remote systems thousands of ly from the bubble there's crashed ships with burned out SRVs and cargo laying all over. Pirates wouldn't find any value in antics so far out, and I haven't seen a single npc for a month. Something has been knocking these ships out, I just wish we could get a manifest or log from scanning the wrecks.

At any rate, more on the where; specifically the "were" of the lycan. "I send you out as a sheep among wolves" (Salomé and Matthew 10:16) and "It could be some lone wolf Commander who stumbles across it" (paraphrasing Drew Wagar). So I checked out EAFOTS WE-R E4-(1-12). Very cool systems, but nothing too bizarre. There is one world in E4-5 (IIRC) that was a landable ringed moon. Gorgeous. The ring was actually visually three tight bands spaced out well so it looked like three distinct rings. Will post pics when I get to the PC.
 

Jaiotu

Jaiotu
Jorki Rasalas said:
No, because those are NOT her words, BUT by an admiral in a different book entirely & I think one that is no longer deemed to be lore
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"And Here The Wheel" by John Harper is still lore, confirmed many times by Drew and others. All of the officially licensed Elite Dangerous fiction is still lore. Important to remember that the authors were working from a disadvantage of not having a completed game to draw material from so some of the details are "a bit off".

In the case of the quote from John Harper's book it has been confirmed that the sentence structure doesn't match the author's intent. There was an unfortunate change by the editors that makes it appear that Thargoids, octagonal ships, mass graves and all that are a reference to the Formidine Rift. They aren't. The Admiral was simply listing several things he had seen over the course of his lifetime without implying that he saw them at the same time. Like saying, "I saw the Statue of Liberty and the Rock of Gibraltar" there is no implication that they were seen at the same time.

This comes back up every 30 pages or so.
 

Zeeman

Zeeman
Jorki Rasalas said:
Amen to that! And what *are* these "happenings" in Pleiades, Conflux, Hawking's Gap, and Formidine Rift? Pleiades we have UP signals using Merope 5C as a posiitonal reference, we have a couple of alien ship crash sites & now a ruin (cant get in game so no idea where these are located to each other or the Rift etc). It would be really nice to have something concrete to work with.
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Agreed - even if they were totally useless clues, just enough to let us know we're int he right place. Those crashed ships you get missions for in the bubble would be cool... An "emergency beacon" seen from space, land on the planet and see a crashed ship with a few last words form the pilot...

Z...
 

Râgnôs

Râgnôs
Hey, I haven't seen anything related to this, but it was probably covered before I even knew about the forums.
I'm not even sure if this is the right place to bring it up but...

If ED is based on the milky way galaxy, why is about a third of the outer arm missing on the galaxy map?
 
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lorrad

lorrad
Erimus said:
Good question. I'd hazard a guess the Eafots systems along the R/R line were probably the first ones targeted by players. This is an image of Eafots on EDSM. As you can see a vast amount of searching during the Rift Expedition 3302 has already gone on out there, but its still only a fraction of what is actually there.

http://i.imgur.com/c6UpyYk.jpg





The 'we may have already seen aspects of it' line tells me that EAFOTs may be a stepping stone, a place where one can view 'it'... but may not necessarily contain 'it'.

But it would be great to have some physical content to work with. Like the UA mystery has had for over a year, and now the abandoned bases mystery has, and the alien shipwreck mystery, and the archeological site mystery... all mysteries that have interesting physical content in game - puzzles to work with and study. The rift is the oldest mystery of all, but has had literally nothing 'physical' to interact with in that sense (just rumors of a location). Clues from Salomé in game, and cryptic GalNet posts (few and far between), yes... but precious little else. Of course, everything could be interconnected, and we've all missed the dots!

Before she was silenced, Salomé did say the happenings in the Pleiades, Conflux, Hawking's Gap, and Formidine Rift are all linked.
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We're surrounded!

In re-reading matzov's most excellent breakdown of myth and Drew's comment of it's like you're standing over my shoulder, it occurs that it may be even more relevant to the Cannon UA/UP thread; are those folks aware of it? Apollo I think it was shooting a poisoned arrow into the greeks camp to spread disease, isn't that exactly what INRA did to the Thargoids? Spreading the UA's all over the place is much like the Trojan Horse. We're besieged and don't even know it? Those crashed ships perhaps scouts that contracted the mycoid virus.

The Trojan War, death, resurrection, life, and terraforming,,,would be interesting to pull from eddb and plot distribution of terrestrial ammonia worlds and of special interest to me apparently dead terrestrial ammonia worlds and elw's and ww's, those that are listed as living worlds but have no atmosphere or something else making them clearly not living. One would think one should be able to land on an atmosphereless elw or alw.

Real reason for post,,,did you see Hollywood has ripped Douglas Adams's "Starship Titanic" so "Passengers" will be in theatres this Xmas?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BWWWQzTpNU
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Râgnôs said:
Hey, I haven't seen anything related to this, but it was probably covered before I even knew about the forums.
I'm not even sure if this is the right place to bring it up but...

If ED is based on the milky way galaxy, why is about a third of the outer arm missing on the galaxy map?
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Can you post some pix to show what you mean?
 

Râgnôs

Râgnôs
Jorki Rasalas said:
Can you post some pix to show what you mean?
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Well the in game map is pretty close to the most common ED map

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But the milky way galaxy maps I generally find have the new outer arm that continues past the end of the Perseus

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Zeeman

Zeeman
I would suspect most of that is more of an educated guess, seeing as we really can't see much of the Milky Way. Remember, ED is a 1:1 simulation of the our Galaxy, not a 1:1 carbon copy.

Z...
 
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Han_Zen

Han_Zen
OK, I had another dig at the 'Right on, commander' sentence.

Now with an anagram. 'The Moon Card Mr Gin'.

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The moon card is card 18 (XVIII) in the Raider-Wait Tarot deck.
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You can read Wait's explanation of the cards meaning here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Moon_(Tarot_card)

I gather everybody remembers that the Imperial ambassador to Earth is named Wait.

Kahina was given Gerasian liquor on her departure from Earth. Gin is a liquor and 'Mr Gin' has a the Moon in the logo.
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So then, is this useful or just a funny coincidence?

I decided to take a look at EAFOTS system with XV-I in them and came up with EAFOTS XV-I B37-0. I figured it matched with the cards XVIII, using the last two II = B. 37 fit the alcohol content of the Gin(I guess the .5 is the planet). :D

Here it is:
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It's 3 ly neighbor is also fascinating. A Double B0 VZ system EAFOTS YE-R E4-0. Must be hot there.
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I have no idea if 'YE-R E4-0' has anything to with the presumed birth of Jesus in the year 4 BC and is the Christmas star.:eek:

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It's not to far out, so have a look if you are close.
 
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