Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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Thanks, I'll try that!

Edit: Hmm, nope. One thing is that at -87/-10 there was a PoI with a crashed nav beacon and a parked Cobra. I wonder if the existence of a temporary PoI can override/suppress a permanent one... let me head back to -87/-10 and see if I get it this time.

If you're on Xbox its -10 -87

Don't forget there's quite a large discrepancy between -87.01 and -87.99 so make sure you get the decimals right
 
If you're on Xbox its -10 -87

Don't forget there's quite a large discrepancy between -87.01 and -87.99 so make sure you get the decimals right

I eventually found it, it's odd because the first time I even searched for it in the SRV in case it was inside a gully or otherwise not visible from the air.

One thing about the base, a few of the modules are greenhouses and they're full of dead plants. Somehow I find that incredibly sad :(

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Yup. And between that and the UA bombing (there are multiple services out due to that), it can't be fun for the station's inhabitants.

Yikes! I'm glad I skipped that particular CG...
 
My theory is that it is one large landing/refuelling bay and one ship sits upon the whole structure. The surface arrays with controls in the and the obelisks link into different systems on landing.

I think Cmdr Iron Orchid (Waldovenison Smear) is talking about something like this:

Ship in red lines
Docking clamps in green
Possible loading/entrance/exit ramp in yellow

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I am liking Cmdr IO's idea more and more.

I think the obelisks in the different arrangements are possibly some kind of communication with different areas of the docked ship, with each being controlled by the active obelisks.

Frawd
 
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As it was my very first forum post, my initial post on this topic had to wait for moderator approval. Consequently, it got inserted about 18 hours worth of pages back in this thread. Rather than re-post it, I'll put a link to the post here.

Whether or not anyone agrees with my hypothesis, I want to make sure that any interested parties get see the post as it has links to a four-hour audio recording of one of the obelisks as well as multiple Audacity projects with all of the data broken out into individual audio clips.

Fly safe, Commanders!

Cmdr. stick152

This is awesome stuff :) I wanted to do the same with the hour long audio that was posted but real-life decided it wanted some attention.
 
One day, far in the future, one of these trails will lead somewhere.

We must be prepared for this day!

By JOVE and the marvelous teats of the Goddess Aphrodite, I think you may have something here!

Here's a piece of Special Chocolate!
 
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So I spent a lot of today searching new coordinates from my map version 2, with the more accurate ruin measurements. I set a range for each distance giving them each plus or minus a few meters to account for SRV position variances:

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Then I put those ranges into a spreadsheet and used my 3D coordinate finder to get search areas in game. After flying out there to investigate the systems which were in the search zones, this is what I came up with:

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Basically, there ain't much of anything at the new LPB (small pad) search zone, only one system with landable worlds was anywhere near the parameters, COL 132 SECTOR XG-B B30-6, just three icy moons around a gas giant. There is an ammonia world in there too, but it's a fairly uninteresting system. For the PB (inner pyramid) Target Zone I couldn't find a single system with any landables in it. I also calculated a search zone for the PB with the Z value identical to PA, or SOL. There are lines connecting the pyramids together at the ruins site, so just in case my assumption that PB is locked to the same galactic plane as LPA and LPB is wrong I decided to see if the pyramids might be locked together on the same Z plane instead. This time I did find a rather interesting system, IC 2602 SECTOR RD-S C4-41:

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Three landable worlds, two of which are binary worlds very similar to the ruin system with the moon being a potato planet, there is even an ELW in the system. There is a second system in the PB search area at Z = 0 with landables in it too, but they are just some ice moons around a gas giant.

Overall though, my map with the new accurate measurements is leaving me feeling underwhelmed. The ruins might not be a map afterall, or my assumptions about the identical Z plane could be wrong, but that opens up an immense and impossible search area otherwise. I'll probably spend some time searching that PB system at Z = 0, IC 2602 SECTOR RD-S C4-41, it has magma geysers so maybe I can find some of those too, but to be honest without more info or coordinates of some kind from the ruins it's kind of a lost cause trying to search planet surfaces by pure luck. If anyone wants to search these new systems have at it, maybe someone will win the lottery and find something, but at this point I'm not really convinced that my map theory is solid enough to justify that kind of effort. We need more pieces to the puzzle first IMHO.
 
I've been doing a bit of research on the mythology of Orion, in case the name "Orion's Folly" is relevant. Two things that could be considered folly from the mythology is that Orion attacked Merope, causing her father to blind him; and later on during a hunt with Artemis he said he was going to kill all creatures of the earth, which caused earth herself to send out a scorpion to kill him. All of those have astronomical relevance.

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Can you select that structure? Could it be their ship?

It's way too small. Generation ships are supposed to be massive, I'd expect the size of cap ships or maybe even stations.
 
I surveyed most of the systems within a dozen LY or so of Orion's Folly, looking for ELWs or terraformable HMC or WW. Didn't find much; the closest possible candidate was a terraformable HMC at HIP 3589 B 2. That system had no landable planets.

Couple of possibilities come to mind:
They claim in the logs the ELW they were supposed to land on is nearby and visible in the sky. It would have to be in the same system. Could something have happened to it over the centuries that it is no longer an ELW? Or perhaps was destroyed?

If it is in a different system, it could well be in one of the populated systems. It is on the edge of the bubble and these events happened centuries ago presumably. I haven't checked these.

Maybe the survivor ventured out and is still in the black between systems.

I drove around the settlement in my SRV looking for clues, but my Wave Scanner seems to be on the fritz. I'll have to take it into the shop.

Came across a few USS's and picked up an occupied escape pod and a couple of Ancient Artifacts. Took all of these to the Canonn Institute, which fortunately is not too far and has a black market. I don't think these are related.

The message said they had missed the target by a few LY, however to my mind that implies they may also have overshot (but possibly undershot) the target & we don't know how long they would have taken to slow down/stop. Hence my suggestion to search in the galmap for ELW along a line from Orion's Folly back to Earth, with distance ŵithin say 10 LY from that line.

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I've been doing a bit of research on the mythology of Orion, in case the name "Orion's Folly" is relevant. Two things that could be considered folly from the mythology is that Orion attacked Merope, causing her father to blind him; and later on during a hunt with Artemis he said he was going to kill all creatures of the earth, which caused earth herself to send out a scorpion to kill him. All of those have astronomical relevance.

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It's way too small. Generation ships are supposed to be massive, I'd expect the size of cap ships or maybe even stations.

Agreed, but we have no evidence to prove that they were on a Generation ship, we inferred that from the phrasing of the messages & we could be wrong.
 
Hey!
A question occurred to me. If the installation found now (orion's folly) comes from a generation ship, what was put on its way before with approximately 1000 years. It means that 1000 years ones are the technologies of the installation. Are 1000 years ones the rest of the installations (found around the bubble) according to these? Because there are structures like that though in all. Or the humanity still using this thousand years old tech to construct small outpost's? Because it may count that the stories hit on the rest of the outpost's (and we did not find all of them yet) happened in the recent past, or possibly more hundred years ago. (sry for bad eng)
 
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I think Cmdr Iron Orchid (Waldovenison Smear) is talking about something like this:

Ship in red lines
Docking clamps in green
Possible loading/entrance/exit ramp in yellow

http://i.imgur.com/6L2TW3D.jpg

I am liking Cmdr IO's idea more and more.

I think the obelisks in the different arrangements are possibly some kind of communication with different areas of the docked ship, with each being controlled by the active obelisks.

Frawd

No disrespect but the theory about landing pad / loading ramp was put forward with images right at the very beginning. I believe this is the case and do not subscribe to the starmap theory from mangy. It is too overcomplicated and has no foundation of fact. Occams Razor applies here.
 
I use shadowplay, works like a charm for me. Nvidia though.

I use Shadowplay myself but cant seem to find a decent enough Audio Splitting program to separate the Audio file without some sort of Loss, so was wondering if anyone is using a Standalone Audio program.
I use Speakers during the day but Headphones at night and from what I have Read, Audacity can`t do in-game recording whilst using USB headset.
Only records if you use the Sound Card and at Night this is a problem.

Since I started playing Elite again (Guardians 2.2) I have noticed that the progression of this Exploration has gone from Unknown Alien Objects to Human Settlements.
I am now wondering if I should be making recordings of any of the Human Settlements I find.

I recently visited the new Settlement Discovery in the Col 285 Sector UZ-O c6-10 (as it was close by and Peaked my Curiosity) and thought I heard something whilst in the area, near some of the buildings and wanted to explore this.
I admit my own chances of finding Alien Objects are slim due to being quite New at this and since I am not quite sure what to look for, but if I can Learn something along the way I`m game for that :)
 
OK, SC 2 hours and 2.2 million +ls from hip2718 system ("blue star with WW) back towards col 285 sector uz-o c6-9........Some not caught USS beyond 1 mil ls but not persistant if I backtracked to find them (when going to fast) and some US that did not even show up on left hand menu when going slower and no sign of orange ring , just a notice on info menu...

if there was something to find like this I'm sure it would show up easier than this?....so no generation ship in this system(methinks)


mmmmmmas I type another USS on info and going slow enough to catch it but nothing in Nav and no sign of a orange circle...might be jinxed

will go eal slow till the next one then give up


oooohhhhh 5 lucky souls in escape pods and the remains of an imperial clipper?....what sort of fool flies 2.2 mil ls out into nowhere to blow up???[weird]

now...nobody tell me they find generation ship 2.4 mil ls out in this system...I will hunt you down and kill you[woah]
 
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Fair warning for all. I was shipping a load of UAs recently and the cargo hatch failed in SC, but there was no audio "Module Malfunction" warning. I just assumed the hit (as I was carrying a lot) instantly took out the cargo hatch and this was just the "Cargo Hatch Inoperable" message you get when it or any module hits 0% integrity (which doesn't have an audio accompaniment). Luckily I saw the secondary message in the top right panel saying "Cargo hatch failure, jettisoning cargo" and hit emergency drop asap. I lost two pieces and still had 10% hatch integrity.

Will report as a bug when I get a chance, but yeah, for those handling UAs/UPs this is a big hazard.

Oh lord. Who/what are you sabotaging now?
 
Oh lord. Who/what are you sabotaging now?

a small % think the UA sales / technical and repair cycle is actually part of the mystery and to open the storyline up a few more stations might need to fall down and be repaired. It must be there for a reason, that would require looking beyond the mere fact that stations go down and the whole community angst / communal resistance and aggression towards so called "UA bombers"

One must be careful of group think

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PS, yes I was shipping UAs, but this wasn't me ;) https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/58248c2a9657baa82d39c8db

Now if a station owned by Sirius Corp were to go down, well, that might be me...

Interestingly, rep gain from black market dealings seems to have received a bit of a nerf whack.

EDIT: Wait, I just read that proper. That was a chemical weapon attack?!?

Ill lend some support , in the process of pushing a few unvisited outer rim systems into shutdown just to see what impact it has on the storyline ( selection criteria include only traffic in and out of system is me in the last 3 days - so no other commanders affected, npc population under 1000 - less demand making it easier to close down) and outside of any powerplay areas on the outer rim so no stratgic impacts are to be had. And also small UA to crash means only a small amount of meta alloys will be needed to repair meaning i can along with a few helpers bring the stations back up quickly once they are down
 
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