I got "FDQITIIRMENATODRRECERRETCOIOUF" using fading out as a control, Iwill need a double check though. Also some runes swell twice before disappearing.
Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn
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I got "FDQITIIRMENATODRRECERRETCOIOUF" using fading out as a control, Iwill need a double check though. Also some runes swell twice before disappearing.
Ok, so maybe it's cyphered and needs a keyword?
Supplemental to my last post I uploaded the isolated missing part of the SOS-message. What is she saying in your opinion? The more I am listening to it, the more it confuses me... "four twelve?" "on dwarf"? Gees....
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@Merloc
Can you please upload the files to another site? E.g. Google Drive or SoundCloud?
Don't want to sound rude, but that site you're uploading the sounds is quite a little unsafe.
And yeah, I did it...shame on me. Good to know, don't ever click on an exe file you downloaded from the internet...ever...but thanks to several antivirus programs I was able to remove all those little malware stuff.
Hmm, sounds a little rude. But I am keeping it quite down ;-)
Can you please upload the files to another site? E.g. Google Drive or SoundCloud?
Don't want to sound rude, but that site you're uploading the sounds is quite a little unsafe.
And yeah, I did it...shame on me. Good to know, don't ever click on an exe file you downloaded from the internet...ever...but thanks to several antivirus programs I was able to remove all those little malware stuff.
Hmm, sounds a little rude. But I am keeping it quite down ;-)
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Just cross posting now but....
Out in the Rift, got a bit carried away while doing a spot of low level recon, got a bit carried away, crashed, and am now back in the bubble.
I do not know if I can spend the time getting back out there, so I am probably out.
Could I suggest people go and check out the single landable planet in the beacon system EAFOTS GL-Y E2.
It's a bit unusual in that it's a terraform candidate HMC planet, I understand these are rather rare, it can't be coincidence surely?
There could be life there, of the coral variety....
https://drive.google.com/uc?view=export&id=0B8ck-2ELKOuLQTVRTVhUSDVncWM
https://drive.google.com/uc?view=export&id=0B8ck-2ELKOuLakhSbU5IMjBBbjA
I m going to add my find, thing is, 5 hours of non stop jumping is just to much for me to go back.
Worth a very good look. It could be on that rock that we were suppose to look at.... someone with lots of lucks need to go and have a look
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Ooh Is that one of the beacon systems?
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Close by. I surveyed as many system as i could bare going around the 4 beacon systems (around 30 systems) , then headed back to cash in. If a cannon member is in the area and has more luck than me.
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dynamicbob
Banned
it could be that the planet can have an atmosphere added to it if terraforming was started. High G might be something of a consider, but well worth investigating
Spent a couple of hours flying and driving around. Nothing significant to report.
Questions About the Orbital Mechanics of SYMUEFE XR-H D11-102 1 and moons
Hay Cmdrs,
I have been trying to understand the orbital mechanics of SYMUEFE XR-H D11-102 1 and its moons. I know there is an Orrery at Elite Galaxy Online but none of my browsers seem to be able to handle it...plus it's good to try and understand the raw numbers anyway.
In the table below I lay out all the data for the Planet 1 system but I'm just going to focus on Planet 1 and Moon 1B (ruins moon) and 1Ba (moon of ruins moon):
Feel free to correct my interpretations of the numbers below as I am new to orbital mechanics.
Planet 1 has an orbital eccentricity of 0.0003 which means its orbit is very close to circular with a radius of 1.6 AU. Its orbital inclination is -0.11 degrees which means its orbit around the main star is very close to the ecliptic plane. It takes 617.7 earth days to orbit the main star.
Moon 1B is where things get interesting. Its orbital period (year) is 6.9 earth days and its rotational period is -6.9 earth days, suggesting its day is the same length as its year except it rotates upon its axis in the opposite direction to which it rotates around Planet 1. Its orbital eccentricity is 0.0005 so very close to circular and orbital inclination is -0.43 degrees so very close to Planet 1's ecliptic plane. However, Moon 1B's axial tilt is -94.91 degrees which means it has essentially "fallen over" .
If we assume that its axial tilt is -90 degrees this means that its axis is lying within its ecliptic plane. My confusion comes in when trying to figure out whether this moon is moving around Planet 1 with north or south pointing in the direction of travel, or whether it is "rolling" around its orbit with its axis perpendicular to the direction of travel...or something in between these two possibilities. If the moon is "rolling" around its orbit, this would mean that one of its hemispheres (north or south) would perpetually point to planet 1, essentially being tidally locked without be officially tidally locked.
Are there any numbers in the table which tell us which of the above possibilities is true or do we have to make observations from the moon surface to determine this?
Another interesting feature of this system is the moon of moon 1B (1Ba). It orbits moon 1B in 0.3 earth days, which means it goes around moon 1B three times in an earth day but goes around moon 1B 23 times in a moon 1B day/year. It is orbiting crazy fast and is tidally locked to boot! Otherwise its orbit around 1B is close to circular (and very close). It does have a small amount of wobble above and below moon 1B's ecliptic plane (-6.8 degrees).
Given that moon 1Ba is orbiting moon 1B around its ecliptic, knowing the orientation of moon 1B around Planet 1 (as discussed above) is important to know. If moon 1B is orbiting Planet 1 with its north/south axis point in the direction of travel, this would mean that moon 1Ba is orbiting around the orbit line. If moon 1B is "rolling" around its orbit with its axis perpendicular to the direction of travel then moon 1Ba would be rotating in the direction of travel or away from the direction of travel.
I guess the real question is, even if we understand the above information, will it make a difference to understand the ruins any better? I think it will help understand how the ruins interact with the main star of the system...the light dark cycle for the ruins.
Apologies for the ramble...just trying to get my thoughts down about this. I appreciate any corrections or clarifications.
Frawd
Hay Cmdrs,
I have been trying to understand the orbital mechanics of SYMUEFE XR-H D11-102 1 and its moons. I know there is an Orrery at Elite Galaxy Online but none of my browsers seem to be able to handle it...plus it's good to try and understand the raw numbers anyway.
In the table below I lay out all the data for the Planet 1 system but I'm just going to focus on Planet 1 and Moon 1B (ruins moon) and 1Ba (moon of ruins moon):
| Orbital Mechanics | Planet 1 | Moon 1A | Moon 1B | Moon 1Ba | Moon 1C | Moon 1D | Moon 1E |
| Orbital Period | 617.7 D | 2.9 D | 6.9 D | 0.3 D | 0.4 D | 0.4 D | 34.7 D |
| Semi-Major Axis | 1.60 AU | 0.01 AU | 0.02 AU | 0.00 AU | 0.00 AU | 0.00 AU | 0.05 AU |
| Orbital Eccentricity | 0.0003 | 0.0003 | 0.0005 | 0.0000 | 0.1444 | 0.1444 | 0.0000 |
| Orbital Inclination | -0.11 deg | 0.35 deg | -0.43 deg | -6.8 deg | -0.69 deg | -0.69 deg | -76.33 deg |
| Arg of Periapsis | 288.71 deg | 110.10 deg | 6.67 deg | 131.04 deg | 244.96 deg | 64.96 deg | 36.28 deg |
| Rotational Period | 2.9 D (TL) | -6.9 D | 0.3 D (TL) | -0.9 D | 0.5 D (TL) | 34.7 D (TL) | |
| Axial Tilt | -25.14 deg | -94.91 deg | 5.21 deg | 121.90 deg | -1.21 deg | 23.01 deg |
Feel free to correct my interpretations of the numbers below as I am new to orbital mechanics.
Planet 1 has an orbital eccentricity of 0.0003 which means its orbit is very close to circular with a radius of 1.6 AU. Its orbital inclination is -0.11 degrees which means its orbit around the main star is very close to the ecliptic plane. It takes 617.7 earth days to orbit the main star.
Moon 1B is where things get interesting. Its orbital period (year) is 6.9 earth days and its rotational period is -6.9 earth days, suggesting its day is the same length as its year except it rotates upon its axis in the opposite direction to which it rotates around Planet 1. Its orbital eccentricity is 0.0005 so very close to circular and orbital inclination is -0.43 degrees so very close to Planet 1's ecliptic plane. However, Moon 1B's axial tilt is -94.91 degrees which means it has essentially "fallen over" .
If we assume that its axial tilt is -90 degrees this means that its axis is lying within its ecliptic plane. My confusion comes in when trying to figure out whether this moon is moving around Planet 1 with north or south pointing in the direction of travel, or whether it is "rolling" around its orbit with its axis perpendicular to the direction of travel...or something in between these two possibilities. If the moon is "rolling" around its orbit, this would mean that one of its hemispheres (north or south) would perpetually point to planet 1, essentially being tidally locked without be officially tidally locked.
Are there any numbers in the table which tell us which of the above possibilities is true or do we have to make observations from the moon surface to determine this?
Another interesting feature of this system is the moon of moon 1B (1Ba). It orbits moon 1B in 0.3 earth days, which means it goes around moon 1B three times in an earth day but goes around moon 1B 23 times in a moon 1B day/year. It is orbiting crazy fast and is tidally locked to boot! Otherwise its orbit around 1B is close to circular (and very close). It does have a small amount of wobble above and below moon 1B's ecliptic plane (-6.8 degrees).
Given that moon 1Ba is orbiting moon 1B around its ecliptic, knowing the orientation of moon 1B around Planet 1 (as discussed above) is important to know. If moon 1B is orbiting Planet 1 with its north/south axis point in the direction of travel, this would mean that moon 1Ba is orbiting around the orbit line. If moon 1B is "rolling" around its orbit with its axis perpendicular to the direction of travel then moon 1Ba would be rotating in the direction of travel or away from the direction of travel.
I guess the real question is, even if we understand the above information, will it make a difference to understand the ruins any better? I think it will help understand how the ruins interact with the main star of the system...the light dark cycle for the ruins.
Apologies for the ramble...just trying to get my thoughts down about this. I appreciate any corrections or clarifications.
Frawd
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maybe I found something about the binary...
Last time (Braben) whe had to do: BINARY -> TEXT -> FLIPPED
This time (Drew) we have to do: BINARY -> FLIPPED -> TEXT
and there IS someting. Here is my 2:52 transcript:
BINARY
00101110 00000100 00101110 10010110 00000100 10101110 10110000 00010110 11001110 00000100 00100110
00110110 10101110 11110110 11000110 00000100 10100110 11101010
FLIPPED
01010111 01100101 00100000 01100011 01101111 01110101 01101100
01100100 00100000 01110011 01101000 00001101 01110101 00100000 01101001 01110100 00100000 01110100
TO TEXT
We coul shu it t
It cannot be a coincidence... It's a fragment, we have to decode precisely all that stuff
EDIT: with Aelisish trascript from rift thread ->
sted Were g yotat wuldnt bb much showit tubut oga{ Ét6e ga%. \nfun. o ine ol
we need some video expert to clean up the trasmission and decode the binary
my other snippet:
ing t-`lay a liute game. \n
Last time (Braben) whe had to do: BINARY -> TEXT -> FLIPPED
This time (Drew) we have to do: BINARY -> FLIPPED -> TEXT
and there IS someting. Here is my 2:52 transcript:
BINARY
00101110 00000100 00101110 10010110 00000100 10101110 10110000 00010110 11001110 00000100 00100110
00110110 10101110 11110110 11000110 00000100 10100110 11101010
FLIPPED
01010111 01100101 00100000 01100011 01101111 01110101 01101100
01100100 00100000 01110011 01101000 00001101 01110101 00100000 01101001 01110100 00100000 01110100
TO TEXT
We coul shu it t
It cannot be a coincidence... It's a fragment, we have to decode precisely all that stuff
EDIT: with Aelisish trascript from rift thread ->
sted Were g yotat wuldnt bb much showit tubut oga{ Ét6e ga%. \nfun. o ine ol
we need some video expert to clean up the trasmission and decode the binary
my other snippet:
ing t-`lay a liute game. \n
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dynamicbob
Banned
Im not sure the orbital mechanics of the alien ruin site is an issue perhaps it points to another system
That is interesting. At least in terms of orbital mechanics. (Bit tired so apologies if I've misread an of it btw.) Only covering the Moon 1B bit for now.
Putting in spoilers to cut out a load of text for anyone not interested.
Anyway, when orbiting a body's orientation doesn't change due to it orbiting. So in this case, if for example the north pole of the moon is pointing towards the star when it's directly between the star and the planet, then it will be pointing to the star at any point in in it's orbit. (This is ignoring the effects of the planet's rotation round the star as it won't have a effect for one rotation of the moon. The moon's orientation won't change due to the planets orbit round the star, but effectively the relative position of the star will change, and half way through the planet's year the moon's south pole will be pointing towards the star.)
Not sure if that's clear but hope it helps.
Anyway, the orbital period and rotational period being the same would lead to a bit off an odd spectacle on the planet. Roughly it means that what you would see is:
Moon to behind the planet - North pole of the moon
Moon to the right of the planet - one side of the moon
Moon in front of the planet - South pole of the moon
Moon to the left of the planet - same side as before but upside down!
Not sure if that's clear but hope it helps.
Anyway, the orbital period and rotational period being the same would lead to a bit off an odd spectacle on the planet. Roughly it means that what you would see is:
Moon to behind the planet - North pole of the moon
Moon to the right of the planet - one side of the moon
Moon in front of the planet - South pole of the moon
Moon to the left of the planet - same side as before but upside down!
Haven't got as far as looking to see whether there's any relevance to the ruins yet. Hope that's useful for now!
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Arguendo
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I would avoid going down this road. By your partial decoding, I am inclined to believe that it's the exact same binary code that was shown when that video was first released (Gamescon). It was part of "The Hunt", which eventually led to the first Alien Wreckage site.
The line you are decoding translated to something like "We could show it to you, but that wouldn't be any fun, so we will play a game." (paraphrasing)
See the OP of Thread #8 and you should find the answer to all the binary codes from the hunt.
dynamicbob
Banned
Shut the project down, shut down a station with unknown probes or artifacts, shut down a ship or system, shut down something else.
I think is different
"We've found something, something incredible. Something the whole galaxy will want to see. The truth. We could show it to you. that wouldn't be much fun so instead we're going to play a little game. To find us, look for a bounty hunter." - "to find more clues, you'll need pre-logistics support in a system with one star, two belts, three rings, and enough radiation to turn you green. The hunt begins on the 28th."
Also, I cannot explain the "flip before" thing.
So here is the video from drew https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u...ous Premonition Reading from Fantasticon.mp4
and these are the pictures with the binary: numbered from 01 to 10 and -xyy.PNG where x is minute and yy seconds
Let's give it a try
"We've found something, something incredible. Something the whole galaxy will want to see. The truth. We could show it to you. that wouldn't be much fun so instead we're going to play a little game. To find us, look for a bounty hunter." - "to find more clues, you'll need pre-logistics support in a system with one star, two belts, three rings, and enough radiation to turn you green. The hunt begins on the 28th."
Also, I cannot explain the "flip before" thing.
So here is the video from drew https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u...ous Premonition Reading from Fantasticon.mp4
and these are the pictures with the binary: numbered from 01 to 10 and -xyy.PNG where x is minute and yy seconds
Let's give it a try
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Arguendo
Volunteer Moderator
Say what?
I just decoded all of it and it spits out the exact same message. It was also Binary -> Flip -> Text the first time this was shown, it's nothing new, just reused footage.
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